Hi guys, I'm thinking of building this deck but without the 4 voices because it is waaay out of my budget.I was thinking of slotting in either Sylvan Advocate or fleecemane lion in that slot. Any thoughts?
Hi guys, I'm thinking of building this deck but without the 4 voices because it is waaay out of my budget.I was thinking of slotting in either Sylvan Advocate or fleecemane lion in that slot. Any thoughts?
Fleecemane is probably the better option of those two.
Hey guys, after a little over a year I have finally finished foiling out my deck! Check it out. I've been playing around with some mainboard and side board slots but aside from maybe taking out the thoughtseizes in the side and using other cards more tuned to my meta this is the list I play. Hope you guys enjoy!
I do like the list, I feel my suggestions to changes would be to cut at least one bird. Having 7 dorks instead of 8 made a big difference for me and I really enjoyed the change. That also drops your main deck to 60. Secondly I would take a look at pridemage, that is the flex slot to find solutions to your meta, I dropped mine to 0 main board down from 2 and moved ooze into the main and one pridemage to the board. In your case if you like them I would cut one and get a 4th rhino, that card is too good. Lastly the thoughtseizes are like a bad card in this deck I feel. I felt they would always sit in my hand and I was doing things to progress my board instead of thoughtseizing. Some quick suggestions. If you want some on the sideboard let me know what the local meta is like
Not sure now to properly format a deck list on here, and yes I know I'm not running birds I decided to run qasali pridemage and a higher land count instead.
Hi guys, I'm thinking of building this deck but without the 4 voices because it is waaay out of my budget.I was thinking of slotting in either Sylvan Advocate or fleecemane lion in that slot. Any thoughts?
There aren't many lists running without voices but I'd also suggest Fleecemane Lion. See this list for some insperation :).
Hey guys, after a little over a year I have finally finished foiling out my deck! Check it out. I've been playing around with some mainboard and side board slots but aside from maybe taking out the thoughtseizes in the side and using other cards more tuned to my meta this is the list I play. Hope you guys enjoy!
I guess it's worth to play around with the amount of 4 drops we have. I can see reasons lowering the number of Rhinos from 4 to 3 (or drop the 2x Decay) and run another Finks or Pridemage instead. I also lowered the number of Townships from 3 to 2 and included a Wooded Bastion. It felt I was drawing them too often causing mana problems.
Crazy idea. What about splashing red for crackling doom. It's a card that beats evrything atm
Do you think it is this good? I don't see a problem running a Stomping Ground + Birds can help casting too. Casting might be really hard.
I like the list, similar to what I used to run. As I said before the pridemage is a flex so if you feel it gets you more value than ooze go for it! My meta has lots of living end and grishoalbrand decks so the main scooze is nice. Also incidental hate on the jund abzan making the matchup even that much better. My mana base is pretty stock compared to yours. I still highly suggest 7 dorks and 23 lands, I know in coco its run fine but I feel with wilted abzan you need to be more proactive and can't sit behind wall of roots and what not. Also the extra forest can't be bolted that and top decking a bird late game with no active township is so feelsbadman. Ultimately I think you should test out your tweaks and see how it feels and go from there.
Hey guys what about Doran, the siege tower? Fit on color, god on 1/1 flying birds, help rhinos, 5/5 block on t2 with birds/noble and with less abrupts in this meta can be a good call.
Hey guys what about Doran, the siege tower? Fit on color, god on 1/1 flying birds, help rhinos, 5/5 block on t2 with birds/noble and with less abrupts in this meta can be a good call.
The reason thickets ran is because we want untapped land turns 1-3 which vista doesn't do, sunpetal is better than visas, bomb unfortunately isn't really where we want to be, think about what match ups you'd bring it in against, personally I'd rather a 3rd stony or rest in peace as they seem very good right now.
I ran pridemage over voice for a while and seems pretty good.
Have you considered a one of glissa the traitor in three drop slot, or anafenza, probably better than cavillers. As for abrupt decay, maybe a pulse, putrefy, dromokas command or dismember depending on which you favour.
Marsh flats are a little cheaper than catacombs, alternately try a hissing quagmire/ shambling vents, maybe a wooded bastion, or some other way to fix your mana.
Hey guys what about Doran, the siege tower? Fit on color, god on 1/1 flying birds, help rhinos, 5/5 block on t2 with birds/noble and with less abrupts in this meta can be a good call.
Anafenza cant block like doran block eldrazis, and dont make birds attack in fly with doran blocking in a top decked situation, but the grave hate is really good, i think doran fit better in this meta is any 3-drop legendary beater be playable
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You can't do that, liege/smiter only trigger for opps effect, not your own.
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I do like the list, I feel my suggestions to changes would be to cut at least one bird. Having 7 dorks instead of 8 made a big difference for me and I really enjoyed the change. That also drops your main deck to 60. Secondly I would take a look at pridemage, that is the flex slot to find solutions to your meta, I dropped mine to 0 main board down from 2 and moved ooze into the main and one pridemage to the board. In your case if you like them I would cut one and get a 4th rhino, that card is too good. Lastly the thoughtseizes are like a bad card in this deck I feel. I felt they would always sit in my hand and I was doing things to progress my board instead of thoughtseizing. Some quick suggestions. If you want some on the sideboard let me know what the local meta is like
Land (24)
2x Forest
1x Gavony Township
1x Godless Shrine
1x Hissing Quagmire
1x Horizon Canopy
3x Marsh Flats
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Plains
2x Razorverge Thicket
2x Stirring Wildwood
1x Swamp
2x Temple Garden
1x Vault of the Archangel
1x Verdant Catacombs
4x Windswept Heath
Creature (27)
1x Glissa, the Traitor
4x Kitchen Finks
3x Loxodon Smiter
4x Noble Hierarch
4x Qasali Pridemage
4x Siege Rhino
3x Voice of Resurgence
4x Wilt-Leaf Liege
Sorcery (3)
3x Lingering Souls
Instant (6)
2x Abrupt Decay
4x Path to Exile
Sideboard (15)
2x Dromoka's Command
2x Engineered Explosives
2x Gaddock Teeg
3x Rest in Peace
2x Spellskite
3x Stony Silence
1x Zealous Persecution
[deck*]
Creatures
4 Creaturename
Spells
4 Spellname
Lands
4 Landname
Sideboard
4 Techname
[/deck]
I like the 4x Pridemage
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Awesome, thanks!
I like the list, similar to what I used to run. As I said before the pridemage is a flex so if you feel it gets you more value than ooze go for it! My meta has lots of living end and grishoalbrand decks so the main scooze is nice. Also incidental hate on the jund abzan making the matchup even that much better. My mana base is pretty stock compared to yours. I still highly suggest 7 dorks and 23 lands, I know in coco its run fine but I feel with wilted abzan you need to be more proactive and can't sit behind wall of roots and what not. Also the extra forest can't be bolted that and top decking a bird late game with no active township is so feelsbadman. Ultimately I think you should test out your tweaks and see how it feels and go from there.
I'd rather play Anafenza, the Foremost.
3 Birds of Paradise
3 Noble Hierarch
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Voice of Resurgence
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Loxodon Smiter
3 Wilt-Leaf Liege
4 Siege Rhino
Sorceries
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Lingering Souls
Instants
3 Path to Exile
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Utter End
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple Garden
3 Razorverge Thicket
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Gavony Township
1 Stirring Wildwood
4 Windswept Heath
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Marsh Flats
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 Swamp
4 Thoughtseize
2 Stony Silence
1 Fracturing Gust
2 Zealous Persecution
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Dromoka's Command
2 Ghost Quarter
What do you all think about...
3 Noble Hierarch -> 3 Avacyn's Pilgrim -- If I have turn 1 green, then I need turn 2 white.
3 Voice of Resurgence -> 3 Qasali Pridemage -- G/W 2/2 for 2, and Qasali Pridemage is probably the main card to bring in to empty slots anyways.
1 Kitchen Finks and 1 Knight of the Reliquary -> 2 Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers -- A good G/W 3 drop. I could also bring in a 4th Qasali Pridemage or a 4th Lingering Souls
2 Abrupt Decay -> ???? (a 4th Path to Exile won't work because it's not budget enough)
4 Verdant Catacombs -> ????
3 Razorverge Thicket -> 3 Canopy Vista -- Similar function.
2 Engineered Explosives -> 2 Ratchet Bomb -- Similar function.
The reason thickets ran is because we want untapped land turns 1-3 which vista doesn't do, sunpetal is better than visas, bomb unfortunately isn't really where we want to be, think about what match ups you'd bring it in against, personally I'd rather a 3rd stony or rest in peace as they seem very good right now.
I ran pridemage over voice for a while and seems pretty good.
Have you considered a one of glissa the traitor in three drop slot, or anafenza, probably better than cavillers. As for abrupt decay, maybe a pulse, putrefy, dromokas command or dismember depending on which you favour.
Marsh flats are a little cheaper than catacombs, alternately try a hissing quagmire/ shambling vents, maybe a wooded bastion, or some other way to fix your mana.
Anafenza cant block like doran block eldrazis, and dont make birds attack in fly with doran blocking in a top decked situation, but the grave hate is really good, i think doran fit better in this meta is any 3-drop legendary beater be playable