Yeah, I'm running Kird Ape default too. I like the 4th counter on Experiment One but with that in mind, some list run a couple of Vexing Devil.
Vexing Devil can't give Experiment One his fourth counter. You need something with a power or toughness of 5 or higher for that. Avatar of the Resolute fulfills that role in my build because I have a dozen other creatures that enter with counters, causing him to typically ETB as at least a 5/4, and sometimes substantially larger.
Vexing Devil can't give Experiment One his fourth counter. You need something with a power or toughness of 5 or higher for that. Avatar of the Resolute fulfills that role in my build because I have a dozen other creatures that enter with counters, causing him to typically ETB as at least a 5/4, and sometimes substantially larger.
Yeah, I'm running Kird Ape default too. I like the 4th counter on Experiment One but with that in mind, some list run a couple of Vexing Devil.
Vexing Devil can't give Experiment One his fourth counter. You need something with a power or toughness of 5 or higher for that. Avatar of the Resolute fulfills that role in my build because I have a dozen other creatures that enter with counters, causing him to typically ETB as at least a 5/4, and sometimes substantially larger.
Sounds a bit like a "win more" situation to me. If you already have a bunch of creatures with counters on the battlefield, you should be winning the game comfortably...
Im currently thinking about cutting the Wild Nacatls and the Collected Companys, maybe going down to 3 on Knight of the Reliquary. Thinking about it then Im having 9 new slots to fill, and I dont know what to substituted...any advice?
Have a look at my list here, played and updated it for a long time. Basically a modified 4 color zoo list with incidental coralhelm combo. Narnam Renagade is SO much better than nacatl in the current meta, death touch means it attracts removal spells that they should be saving for your bigger guys, as well as clogging up the board against massive tarmogyofs and death's shadows.
Continue having success with 1-drop zoo. Beat affinity, lantern, abzan midrange, UW control, and Blue Moon/Madcap for Saturday afternoon magic. Trying out scrapheap scrounger since my meta has a fair amount of midrange/control strategies. It never really came up as I either boarded it our (affinity) and played against two path decks. at worst it is a 3 power two drop that can be cast through blood moon/spreading seas. also doesn't matter if it gets countered which is nice.
EDH is like French fries: some people like waffle cut, crinkle cut, or plain old straight cut, and while there's slight flavor difference and personal preference, at the end of the day they're still fries.
There were some lists already splashing blue for some stuff, that Nissa is insane in a deck full of creatures. Her +2 even helps when in topdeck mode.
I don't know if she'll be that good in Zoo, but I can see her being nuts with Courser of Kruphix.
I think New Nissa could be worth trying out in Big Zoo lists splashing blue. Could be too slow or just doesn't do enough.
Green god also seems sweet for the CoCo variants, as we already have a lot of 4 power creatures to make him able to block and attack if we hit him. And him being able to give trample is a huge plus.
The one card from the new set I am interested in testing is Vizier of the Menagerie. While it may be slow, could be good for grindy matchups.
I don't see how Nissa is any good in zoo when Chandra TOD basically does the same thing with an easier mana cost. Maybe in some other midrange value shenanigans type of deck.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
I don't see how Nissa is any good in zoo when Chandra TOD basically does the same thing with an easier mana cost. Maybe in some other midrange value shenanigans type of deck.
she puts it into play, no casting required. Around counters, around any interaction, and for free. Plus she only costs "3" because the best way to use her, least to me, is put her in at 1 loyalty, +2 for the scry, set yourself up, then start dumping.
If they kill her, cool, its like they killed knight or smiter or something. The whole deck still pushes forward. In top deck you can cast her for everything and use 0 so she was "free"
I don't see how Nissa is any good in zoo when Chandra TOD basically does the same thing with an easier mana cost. Maybe in some other midrange value shenanigans type of deck.
Chandra let's you cast the card on top, meaning you have to pay mana cost. Nissa put the creature/land directly in play, so it can't be countered and you don't spend any mana on it. Scry 2 every turn is also busted when you're searching for something. She's a great topdeck late game when you have more mana to spend on her so she can ult faster, and her ult is 10 flying dmg, great to finish games.
The god is pretty good in the deck.. only noble cant proc the god to attack. he can +2 a nacatl or a Qasali then attack.. a 2-3 drop can be good in the deck. I think the new nissa can be pretty good in the Knightfall Version. u can find your knight and retreat to coralhelm.
The god is pretty good in the deck.. only noble cant proc the god to attack. he can +2 a nacatl or a Qasali then attack.. a 2-3 drop can be good in the deck. I think the new nissa can be pretty good in the Knightfall Version. u can find your knight and retreat to coralhelm.
2-0 Storm
2-0 UW Spirits
2-0 Revolt Zoo
2-0 Allies
1-2 Colorless Eldrazi (tbf he topdecked wastes the turn after getting blood moon'd each game)
IDK. Deck is fine. I loved Rabblemaster since it gets value through removal and kill super super quickly if left alone.
No one plays around Ghor-Clan.
It's pretty easy to beat tier 3 decks.
Cool deck
Vexing Devil can't give Experiment One his fourth counter. You need something with a power or toughness of 5 or higher for that. Avatar of the Resolute fulfills that role in my build because I have a dozen other creatures that enter with counters, causing him to typically ETB as at least a 5/4, and sometimes substantially larger.
BW BW Tokens
BUW Esper Shadow
BUR Grixis Shadow
Yeah my bad. What I meant was 4th P/T.
Modern : RG Titan Shift RG | RG Revolt Zoo RG | RG Ponza RG | RGW Naya Burn RGW
Legacy : RG Belcher RG
He can bring back lands, ensuring I get to four lands or he can get back a Wild Nacatl, Noble Hierarch, Qasali Pridemage, or Tarmogoyf.
Hitting two of these off a Collected Company seems interesting.
Tribal Zoo video series
Sounds a bit like a "win more" situation to me. If you already have a bunch of creatures with counters on the battlefield, you should be winning the game comfortably...
Have a look at my list here, played and updated it for a long time. Basically a modified 4 color zoo list with incidental coralhelm combo. Narnam Renagade is SO much better than nacatl in the current meta, death touch means it attracts removal spells that they should be saving for your bigger guys, as well as clogging up the board against massive tarmogyofs and death's shadows.
~Modern~
BGURWhiteless Death's ShadowRUGB
GWRUSaheeli BlinkURWG
RGBUGood Ole' DredgeUBGR
~Commander~
URWNarset, Enlightened Time-TravelerWRU
UBRWBreya, Etherium ArchitectWRBU
A Prolific Loser To Blood Moon
BW BW Tokens
BUW Esper Shadow
BUR Grixis Shadow
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
4 Arid Mesa
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Blood Crypt
1 Forest
Creatures:
4 Experiment One
4 Narnam Renegade
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Goblin Guide
4 Kird Ape
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
2 Scrapheap Scrounger
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Atarka's Command
3 Path to Exile
2 Deflecting Palm
3 Destructive Revelry
1 Domri Rade
2 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Kari Zev's Expertise
1 Path to Exile
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stony Silence
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/rhonas-the-indomitable/
There were some lists already splashing blue for some stuff, that Nissa is insane in a deck full of creatures. Her +2 even helps when in topdeck mode.
I don't know if she'll be that good in Zoo, but I can see her being nuts with Courser of Kruphix.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Green god also seems sweet for the CoCo variants, as we already have a lot of 4 power creatures to make him able to block and attack if we hit him. And him being able to give trample is a huge plus.
The one card from the new set I am interested in testing is Vizier of the Menagerie. While it may be slow, could be good for grindy matchups.
she puts it into play, no casting required. Around counters, around any interaction, and for free. Plus she only costs "3" because the best way to use her, least to me, is put her in at 1 loyalty, +2 for the scry, set yourself up, then start dumping.
If they kill her, cool, its like they killed knight or smiter or something. The whole deck still pushes forward. In top deck you can cast her for everything and use 0 so she was "free"
Chandra let's you cast the card on top, meaning you have to pay mana cost. Nissa put the creature/land directly in play, so it can't be countered and you don't spend any mana on it. Scry 2 every turn is also busted when you're searching for something. She's a great topdeck late game when you have more mana to spend on her so she can ult faster, and her ult is 10 flying dmg, great to finish games.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Rhonas the Indomitable
Should be really powerful to say the least- can be played off of BTE and can punish just about anything out there...I like it!