19 LANDS
3 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Spirebluff Canal
3 Steam Vents
4 CREATURES
4 Goblin Electromancer
37 INSTANTS and SORC.
4 Desperate Ritual
2 Empty the Warrens
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Grapeshot
1 Increasing Vengeance
2 Izzet Charm
4 Manamorphose
2 Past in Flames
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Remand
4 Serum Visions
SIDEBOARD
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Breeding Pool
1 Deglamer
2 Empty the Warrens
4 Madcap Experiment
1 Naturalize
1 Nature's Claim
1 Platinum Emperion
This is the list I've been running for a few weeks. Found it on mtgtop8 from jway. The transitional sideboard plan of madcap + emperion is working fantastically vs fast aggro or burn while also giving me a clock against more controlling opponents who made the mistake of tapping out.
The only problem is what can I replace probe with? The banning really hurt the ability to go off with a low amount of blue mana.
The simple answer is no one actually knows for sure what the correct direction it is going to be to take the deck. When playing the gifts decks in general I always wanted more electromancers, so I will likely start by replacing probes in most of my gifts lists with Baral, Chief of Compliance, and trying things from there.
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If we still aren't thrilled about the amount of GY hate in the format and are wanting an option that doesn't really care about the GY but still has an enchantment as liability for the deck, there is still the angle of turning Storm into a mill deck. I've posted in the past about my Sphinx's Tutelage list and that was before Hugs got released as a draw 3. Drawing lots of cards and making your opponent lose b/c of it is just hilarious
Quickly added Hugs over Probe to my old list. Not opposed to extra Burning Inquiry either. The fetches are red focused rather than blue since so much of the deck is now red based and that still finds the Steam Vents. There is an extra land bc of wanting to make sure we get to 3 quickly, but w/all the card draw in the list its possible we can go below the 16 from the classic Finkel Storm build.
Interesting idea but you need to replace probe in that list a turbo mill strategy has been on my list to try but I almost think the waste not deck is better.
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Interesting idea but you need to replace probe in that list a turbo mill strategy has been on my list to try but I almost think the waste not deck is better.
You must have been typing it when I was editing it heh. Probe was a straight swap into Cathartic Reunion (aka Hugs) in both lists.
This is super sad. We're back to number 2 on the banned list after affinity and that's only because of the 5 different lands.
Right now I'm leaning towards play Cathartic Reunion in that spot and hoping never to play against remand. Maybe it'll be better to play gifts there instead but it's going to hurt a lot. Ascension took a huge hit. It's much more difficult to activate ascension and we're more reliant on manamorphose than ever.
Hey guys, cross post with the ritual gifts thread: here's the list I'm testing after the probe ban, and it's surprisingly good! There are supposed to be 2-4 Barals in the deck, mostly in the place of remands, but they are not on mtgo yet
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Looks good to me, I might steal it for some games. Only thought I have is I generally drop one pif down to two when I play gifts and am more likely to play a sulfur falls or two over a canal.
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Gifts storm has been 5-0 leagues like regular storm for a while now. It's an interesting take on the list, and I like the things in the sideboard. However, in my experience the deck is weak to removal due to the heavy reliance on electromancer for a kill at a reasonable speed. I am more interested in gifts once we have redundancy there. So will probably be testing it some time next week. It is pretty much exactly what I was playing with before as well, but I do not like the delvers in the side.
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I like gift storm quite a lot but it's much worse in my meta because something like half the field has 3-4 remands in their deck. I'm going to give it a shot now though. I haven't had the chance to play much in the past 6 months (stupid college classes) but hopefully I'll be able to play some more. I got a lot more testing done last night and today and I've found a few lists I'm liking.
I've been messing around with Noxious revival and it's been ok. The value you gain from the second revival is so much higher than the first that it's almost objectively incorrect to play just a singleton. I've been trying both 2 and 3.
Obviously I've tried cathartic reunion and as expected the card is amazing with ascension but it very much has a downside. I'm not sold on it but I can't deny the power of the deck.
I've also been messing around with UR Ritual gifts because I still think the URw mentor thing is not very good. It's been fairing pretty well although the delver matchup is more painful than it used to be.
The list that I've liked the most is the Finkel list -4 Probe, -2 Electromancer, +4 Baral, +1 Grapeshot +1 Peer Through Depths. Although Peer might need to be the third electromancer. It's been very strong in testing and it feels very good. Occasionally you do get elctromancer flooded but it's not too common. Looting could help but the cards pretty awful outside of that spot so it's likely not worth it. Maybe running some number of cathartic reunion is correct here but I need more testing to decide.
Right now I think there are three ways Storm can go: UR with Titi, Gifts or that last list I have. I think Titi is the weakest of the opinions by a large margin but both Gifts and the other list are very strong. Although I haven't gotten around to building actual sideboards yet.
Just wanted to share that: http://imgur.com/a/eW3Ws ... I've spent most of this morning grapeshoting people to death in friendly leagues, getting some nice reactions! (this was G2, a T4 kill on game 1 got me a "how is this deck still played??")
Also I won a considerable amount of games because people don't know how the storm deck works...
Back on the deck, I'm a big fan of gifts storm, but I feel the best build has yet to be found. The gifts package allows for a more reactive approach, maybe adding more control elements or a transformational SB is a good way to go?
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Long live combo
Modern Decks:
URGifts StormRU
UBRGrixis ShadowRBU
3 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Spirebluff Canal
3 Steam Vents
4 CREATURES
4 Goblin Electromancer
37 INSTANTS and SORC.
4 Desperate Ritual
2 Empty the Warrens
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Grapeshot
1 Increasing Vengeance
2 Izzet Charm
4 Manamorphose
2 Past in Flames
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Remand
4 Serum Visions
SIDEBOARD
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Breeding Pool
1 Deglamer
2 Empty the Warrens
4 Madcap Experiment
1 Naturalize
1 Nature's Claim
1 Platinum Emperion
This is the list I've been running for a few weeks. Found it on mtgtop8 from jway. The transitional sideboard plan of madcap + emperion is working fantastically vs fast aggro or burn while also giving me a clock against more controlling opponents who made the mistake of tapping out.
The only problem is what can I replace probe with? The banning really hurt the ability to go off with a low amount of blue mana.
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
Quickly added Hugs over Probe to my old list. Not opposed to extra Burning Inquiry either. The fetches are red focused rather than blue since so much of the deck is now red based and that still finds the Steam Vents. There is an extra land bc of wanting to make sure we get to 3 quickly, but w/all the card draw in the list its possible we can go below the 16 from the classic Finkel Storm build.
4 R Magmatic Insight
1 R Burning Inquiry
4 R Faithless Looting
3 U Thought Scour
4 1R Cathartic Reunion
4 1R Manamorphose
4 1R Pyretic Ritual
4 1R Desperate Ritual
4 1R Pyromancer's Ascension
1 1R Grapeshot
4 2U Sphinx's Tutelage
2 3R Past in Flames
7 red fetches
4 Spirebluff Canal
2 Steam Vents
3 Island
1 Mountain
EDIT: Duh, no Probe now. Also found another old version I had on tappedout. Also pre-Hugs, so replaced Probe w/Hugs.
4 Cathartic Reunion
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Cathartic Reunion
4 Ideas Unbound
4 Magmatic Insight
4 Manamorphose
2 Past in Flames
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Pyromancer Ascension
4 Sphinx's Tutelage
2 Vision Skeins
4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
3 Polluted Delta
4 Spirebluff Canal
3 Steam Vents
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
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One upside to dropping ascension is that you do not need to run everything in playsets anymore
You must have been typing it when I was editing it heh. Probe was a straight swap into Cathartic Reunion (aka Hugs) in both lists.
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
Right now I'm leaning towards play Cathartic Reunion in that spot and hoping never to play against remand. Maybe it'll be better to play gifts there instead but it's going to hurt a lot. Ascension took a huge hit. It's much more difficult to activate ascension and we're more reliant on manamorphose than ever.
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
Currently Playing:
Modern Grixis Shadow, Storm
Legacy: Grixis Delver, Sneak and Show
Duel Commander: Kess High Tide
Vintage Big blue(MTGO)
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
Not as good as reunion with ascension, but better versus counterspells. I hadn't thought of it with tutelage, but I'm going to!
UBR TES
UBR TNT
GB Dredge
(does it have led? then I probably have played it.)
UBWR Ad nauseam
GW Hatebears
I've been messing around with Noxious revival and it's been ok. The value you gain from the second revival is so much higher than the first that it's almost objectively incorrect to play just a singleton. I've been trying both 2 and 3.
Obviously I've tried cathartic reunion and as expected the card is amazing with ascension but it very much has a downside. I'm not sold on it but I can't deny the power of the deck.
I've also been messing around with UR Ritual gifts because I still think the URw mentor thing is not very good. It's been fairing pretty well although the delver matchup is more painful than it used to be.
The list that I've liked the most is the Finkel list -4 Probe, -2 Electromancer, +4 Baral, +1 Grapeshot +1 Peer Through Depths. Although Peer might need to be the third electromancer. It's been very strong in testing and it feels very good. Occasionally you do get elctromancer flooded but it's not too common. Looting could help but the cards pretty awful outside of that spot so it's likely not worth it. Maybe running some number of cathartic reunion is correct here but I need more testing to decide.
Right now I think there are three ways Storm can go: UR with Titi, Gifts or that last list I have. I think Titi is the weakest of the opinions by a large margin but both Gifts and the other list are very strong. Although I haven't gotten around to building actual sideboards yet.
Also I won a considerable amount of games because people don't know how the storm deck works...
Back on the deck, I'm a big fan of gifts storm, but I feel the best build has yet to be found. The gifts package allows for a more reactive approach, maybe adding more control elements or a transformational SB is a good way to go?
Currently Playing:
Modern Grixis Shadow, Storm
Legacy: Grixis Delver, Sneak and Show
Duel Commander: Kess High Tide
Vintage Big blue(MTGO)