Sorry to see your 0-3. Last two times I took this deck to Modern night, I went 2-1 both times and got some packs. I think the deck is a meta call. It may just be the wrong call for that shop. I wouldn't read too much into one night though.
I tested Creeping Corrosion, and I think it's too expensive. It's not too popular, but I prefer Naturalize, basically a green Disenchant. It hits artifacts and enchantments, only costs 2, and can remove a Chalice of the Void set to 1, which really hurts us bad.
Deglamer / Unravel the Aether is generally preferable - same cost, same targets, but gets past indestructible and regeneration and graveyard recursion and 'dies' triggers...
Sorry to see your 0-3. Last two times I took this deck to Modern night, I went 2-1 both times and got some packs. I think the deck is a meta call. It may just be the wrong call for that shop. I wouldn't read too much into one night though.
I tested Creeping Corrosion, and I think it's too expensive. It's not too popular, but I prefer Naturalize, basically a green Disenchant. It hits artifacts and enchantments, only costs 2, and can remove a Chalice of the Void set to 1, which really hurts us bad.
Deglamer / Unravel the Aether is generally preferable - same cost, same targets, but gets past indestructible and regeneration and graveyard recursion and 'dies' triggers...
Then again, they could just draw it again. I mostly used Naturalize because it's what I have on hand, but I like it just fine. Actually, I'm using 3x Naturalize and 1x Natural End right now because it's what I have.
I'll pick up a playset of one of those though - thanks for the tip.
Sorry but my english is bad ; my sideboard use Beast Within x2
Use Sundering Growth > Naturalize , is better option
vs elves, sideboard grafdigger's cage? counter collected company and chord (But I have never test it, It's just an idea)
Use Sundering Growth > Naturalize , is better option
In a version of the deck that doesn't make tokens, why would Sundering Growth be a better option?
I could see that making sense if you ran a build with, say, Rhonas's Last Stand and Call of the Conclave (I've even dabbled in a build involving Kin-Tree Invocation)... but in most of the decks listed here, they don't tend to benefit from Populate.
Use Sundering Growth > Naturalize , is better option
In a version of the deck that doesn't make tokens, why would Sundering Growth be a better option?
I could see that making sense if you ran a build with, say, Rhonas's Last Stand and Call of the Conclave (I've even dabbled in a build involving Kin-Tree Invocation)... but in most of the decks listed here, they don't tend to benefit from Populate.
Vs Mirror match with Beast Within for example, other deck blue with swan song... etc...
I think, Sundering Growth > Naturalize is ever better option and = price.
I kind of figured that splashing white was an inevitability as some point. I think this might be a freak elves occurrence but I'd feel pretty stupid if I got run over by it again. I'll being going in prepared for it next time for sure.
Use Sundering Growth > Naturalize , is better option
In a version of the deck that doesn't make tokens, why would Sundering Growth be a better option?
I could see that making sense if you ran a build with, say, Rhonas's Last Stand and Call of the Conclave (I've even dabbled in a build involving Kin-Tree Invocation)... but in most of the decks listed here, they don't tend to benefit from Populate.
Vs Mirror match with Beast Within for example, other deck blue with swan song... etc...
I think, Sundering Growth > Naturalize is ever better option and = price.
I'm running a Nykthos, so being able to pay for Naturalize with a colorless mana gives it the edge for me. If I was running tokens, I would agree with you; but I'm not. If Sundering Growth could copy an opponent's token, that would be a different story.
Sorry but my english is bad ; my sideboard use Beast Within x2
No worries about your English, your meaning is clear. I've thought about Beast Within, just don't own any yet. It could definitely help in some matchups.
vs elves, sideboard grafdigger's cage? counter collected company and chord (But I have never test it, It's just an idea)
I run Grafdigger's Cage, and yes it helps in CoCo matchups. I like Nature's Way in this matchup. It lets us eliminate a blocker/lord/combo piece, plus it lets a big attacker trample damage, which can then be pumped with Aspect of Hydra or Vines of Vastwood.
The thing about Deglamer is that it gets rid of Wurmcoil engine as well as anything indestructible (Rare, but still an upside) without producing the tokens while basically doing the same job Natiralize does. It's also one less card in the grave, which can matter for cards like Tarmogoyf and Delver creatures. Also, it's shuffled back in the deck. While the chance your opponent draws it again is there, it's very slim even if he/she runs a playset and even if he/she still draw it, you get to hit their tempo. Usually you won't see the piece you hit with Deglamer again in a game against us.
What do you guys think about a revolt heavy build? Something like the build below allows you to be a lot faster and get under Tron. The fetches allow you to also sideboard a different color in case that is your thing.
Even in a revolt-all-the-time build, I just don't think Herbalists is good enough. It's just a 2/2. Even if it's a 'free' 2/2, this deck isn't really getting benefit from going wide. I think it has a place in decks that benefit from multiple-spells-cast turns (cards with Surge; Vengevine; Talara's Battalion) or a use for creature-generated mana (Myr Superion)... or decks that have an Overrun-like effect where bears can win if there are enough of them. But here? It's a less-devotion Burning-Tree Emissary that sometimes misfires but provides uniformly green mana. And to me, that's not good enough if you're not exploiting it other ways.
And I think enough has already been said about Kessig Prowler.
Has any one seen or given any thought too this Ixlan spoiler? Old Growth DryadG
When name enters the battlefield
each opponent may search his or her
library for a basic land card, put
it onto the battlefield tapped, then
shuffle his or her library. 3/3
Has any one seen or given any thought too this Ixlan spoiler? Old Growth DryadG
When name enters the battlefield
each opponent may search his or her
library for a basic land card, put
it onto the battlefield tapped, then
shuffle his or her library. 3/3
That....seems very powerful. jeez that seems powerful!
Also, I have been testing with Rhonas Last Stand. It's not a'jam it as soon as possible always' card, but I do think it's the real deal. t3-4 BIG creature and hold up mana for more tricks
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I'm sure we'll find out for sure soon enough, but many have said that on closer inspection of the blurry leaked photos this creature is more likely to be a 3/1 than a 3/3. Which makes it a tad touchier.
(Unless that card has actually been officially shown now... I haven't seen it in the threads yet but I may have missed it...)
Well they listed it on this site as a 3/3 so I thought it was safe to start speculating.
It could always turn out to be wrong.... I might still play it as a 3/1 but a 3/3 with a downside lines up nicely with recent cards like rampager.
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Deglamer / Unravel the Aether is generally preferable - same cost, same targets, but gets past indestructible and regeneration and graveyard recursion and 'dies' triggers...
Then again, they could just draw it again. I mostly used Naturalize because it's what I have on hand, but I like it just fine. Actually, I'm using 3x Naturalize and 1x Natural End right now because it's what I have.
I'll pick up a playset of one of those though - thanks for the tip.
Use Sundering Growth > Naturalize , is better option
vs elves, sideboard grafdigger's cage? counter collected company and chord (But I have never test it, It's just an idea)
In a version of the deck that doesn't make tokens, why would Sundering Growth be a better option?
I could see that making sense if you ran a build with, say, Rhonas's Last Stand and Call of the Conclave (I've even dabbled in a build involving Kin-Tree Invocation)... but in most of the decks listed here, they don't tend to benefit from Populate.
Vs Mirror match with Beast Within for example, other deck blue with swan song... etc...
I think, Sundering Growth > Naturalize is ever better option and = price.
I kind of figured that splashing white was an inevitability as some point. I think this might be a freak elves occurrence but I'd feel pretty stupid if I got run over by it again. I'll being going in prepared for it next time for sure.
I'm running a Nykthos, so being able to pay for Naturalize with a colorless mana gives it the edge for me. If I was running tokens, I would agree with you; but I'm not. If Sundering Growth could copy an opponent's token, that would be a different story.
No worries about your English, your meaning is clear. I've thought about Beast Within, just don't own any yet. It could definitely help in some matchups.
I run Grafdigger's Cage, and yes it helps in CoCo matchups. I like Nature's Way in this matchup. It lets us eliminate a blocker/lord/combo piece, plus it lets a big attacker trample damage, which can then be pumped with Aspect of Hydra or Vines of Vastwood.
I strongly recommend running it over Naturalize.
(W/B)BW Tokens(W/B) | (B/R)Rakdos Burn(B/R) | (U/R)Gift Storm(U/R)
But only 4 of your fetches can get a Plains...
No. 12 of his fetches can get a Plains. Temple Garden is a Plains.
7 Forest
2 Treetop Village
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Aspect of Hydra
2 Rancor
2 Vines of Vastwood
//Creatures
4 Avatar of the Resolute
4 Dryad Militant
4 Experiment One
4 Greenwheel Liberator
4 Hidden Herbalists
2 Kessig Prowler
2 Leatherback Baloth
4 Narnam Renegade
4 Strangleroot Geist
And I think enough has already been said about Kessig Prowler.
Old Growth Dryad G
When name enters the battlefield
each opponent may search his or her
library for a basic land card, put
it onto the battlefield tapped, then
shuffle his or her library.
3/3
That....seems very powerful. jeez that seems powerful!
Also, I have been testing with Rhonas Last Stand. It's not a'jam it as soon as possible always' card, but I do think it's the real deal. t3-4 BIG creature and hold up mana for more tricks
(Unless that card has actually been officially shown now... I haven't seen it in the threads yet but I may have missed it...)
It could always turn out to be wrong.... I might still play it as a 3/1 but a 3/3 with a downside lines up nicely with recent cards like rampager.