I've been watching a ton of your videos, and have had the deck for a while, but had almost never played it. When you said in one of your videos you felt your Geist deck felt around tier 1.5, I kind of rolled my eyes, but then randomly at my FNM I decided to play it after owning it for a while. Crushed a cheerio's deck, a Jund deck, 8Rack, and then lost a close game 3 in the finals against Zooicide despite being mana-screwed, and realized this is a super underrated deck, and just like Jund, this just seems to have a ton of 50/50 matchups with silver-bullet sideboard cards
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
Geist, it's pretty obvious to me your're overstating the merits of the black splash while underestimating the shortcomings.
I mean, I've played the deck myself. It's not true that the manabase is as solid. It's not true that Fulminator and Moon aren't a problem. It's not true that the manabase isn't more painful. Saying things like "I've never lost to Blood Moon" makes little sense to me. This whole sentence makes really really little sense:
Oh and blood moon? I've never lost a match against it. choke? I've never lost a match against it. Fulminator Mage? Is no worse then a tectonic edge against me. You mentioned living end hate? I am 3-1 vs Living End.
I mean...I lose to Blood Moon even with Jeskai, with black it was worse and Fulminator is a PAIN to deal with when you've got a 4 colors manabase. Facts I've experienced on my own skin.
On the other hand, improvements are marginal and not as relevant as you're saying. Doom can be great vs Affinity in some games, ugly in others, it depends the kind of hand they have. I confirm I'm very happy with my Affinity MU anyway. Merfolks, Zoo and Company MUs don't get better with the black splash.
I had fun playing with the black splash myself, but you need to be more rational IMHO, you're not being very objective.
On a different subject: has anybody ever tested Sulfur Elemental as a sideboard tech?
Running the black splash does not mean you ran my deck. I guarantee you we had different mana bases. I honestly feel that the key to my success with the list so far has more to do with mana base than anything else. As I clarified early, my primary strength against land hate (blood moon, choke, fulminator, etc) has been proper sideboarding and proper piloting. That is how you beat those. Does adding a 4th color make you weaker against land hate? In theory yes. But I have zero cards in my deck that cost double of the same mana type. It is easy for blood moon to harm you if you are running cryptic command with its UUU cost. I believe that my opponents have horrifically misplayed against my deck because they assume they know exactly what it is. Most of my opponents first try to lock me out of U. Look at my list. If I had sided in lingering souls, I can win as a boros deck quite handedly. You only need to win 2 out of 3 matches against your opponent. As I noted earlier the more decisions you make your opponent make, the better place you are going to be in. Maybe my luck against land hate will change when I face pilots who understand that U or B is not the mainstay of my deck. But that's a hard assumption for an opposing pilot to make.
To reiterate, I've never said it was easy to beat blood moon. I've just said that I've never lost a best 2 out of 3 match against it. I am undefeated against the Red Free Wins deck that battled against the eldrazi menace. That deck pulled out turn 2 blood moons.
Regarding the matchups: I do feel that crackling doom helps against merfolk. Kira is a card. That said, supreme verdict would be better there, but that's not a main deck spot for midrange.
Zoo, I think Tasigur does hard work there.
CoCo matchups suck. Black does not help any there. Unless maybe you ran slaughter games sideboard (which could help against scapeshift and living end as well).
I do not feel that I'm overstating the merits. From the beginning I have noted that it is not a better list. It is just a different list. And different lists get played by opponents differently and will lead different results. If you want to start a black splash you are going to have some disadvantages. One of those being you cannot run ghost quarter. Another being you need to be constantly vigilant about fetching the wrong color land. You have the severe capacity of losing to yourself.
I feel that I have been very open and objective in my analysis of a deck that I have tested for months now to positive results. If you run the wrong manabase or pilot incorrectly you will lose, because the deck is much less forgiving. But I enjoy that sort of thing.
I've been watching a ton of your videos, and have had the deck for a while, but had almost never played it. When you said in one of your videos you felt your Geist deck felt around tier 1.5, I kind of rolled my eyes, but then randomly at my FNM I decided to play it after owning it for a while. Crushed a cheerio's deck, a Jund deck, 8Rack, and then lost a close game 3 in the finals against Zooicide despite being mana-screwed, and realized this is a super underrated deck, and just like Jund, this just seems to have a ton of 50/50 matchups with silver-bullet sideboard cards
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
I just want to second the support to GreatNate. His videos inspired me to go Jeskai instead of Scapeshift or Jund for my paper deck.
I've been watching a ton of your videos, and have had the deck for a while, but had almost never played it. When you said in one of your videos you felt your Geist deck felt around tier 1.5, I kind of rolled my eyes, but then randomly at my FNM I decided to play it after owning it for a while. Crushed a cheerio's deck, a Jund deck, 8Rack, and then lost a close game 3 in the finals against Zooicide despite being mana-screwed, and realized this is a super underrated deck, and just like Jund, this just seems to have a ton of 50/50 matchups with silver-bullet sideboard cards
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
I just want to second the support to GreatNate. His videos inspired me to go Jeskai instead of Scapeshift or Jund for my paper deck.
I agree the work he's done is great. I wouldn't be playing Geist if it weren't for his videos inspiring me to do so. Also wouldn't have done so well at the open without his videos. I don't get to play test as often as I like, so seeing his videos is sometimes as close to testing as I can get.
Yeah, his video's are definitely helpful. I enjoy watching it and his thought process on it, whether from learning it or even seeing where he punted. The deck feels great, often times I can see where I could have won the game in hindsight, outside of something awful like Vengevine and Boogle decks, there haven't been too many matchups where I felt I didn't have a chance
Definitely keep posting them. I based my deck off of the recent Nick Hansen list, the 3 serum visions really helps smooth out the deck without feeling too intrusive or dead, I think before the Eldrazi Winter people weren't really running it, and the deck felt a little clunkier and a little less easy on card advantage
I think a great example of watching his video was him playing Kiki-Chord, he wins game 1, tries to take the slower route with Keranos, Elspeth, boardwipes, etc. He gets overwhelmed because Kiki-Chord just has a way better late game, it helped me out recalling that and just aiming to go for the quick tempo-burn out plan, my initial reaction would have been to go late game control. Ended up winning that matchup
I'm still mainly a Jund player, but I miss Splinter Twin and miss the tempo plan and playing my stuff on my opponent's turn (outside of slamming a Geist and just spot removing threats they put down 1 at a time).
Played GreatNate's latest list (with some sideboard tweaks) in Tuesday Night Modern last night, thought I'd post the results.
Round 1: R/G Titanshift 1-2 (0-1)
I beat him handily Game 1 on the back of Geist and just being able to apply pressure and answer his threats, including Izzet Charming a turn 2 Khalni Heart Expedition. He took game 2 due to me playing too conservatively and not getting pressure going quickly enough, as I was trying to negotiate a position where I could play a Geist and hold up a counter spell for Anger/Pyroclasm if he had it. I would have been better off just playing the Geist. Game 3 I kept a sketchy hand and got punished (which I apparently have a habit of doing).
Round 2: UB Faeries 0-2 (0-2)
This matchup just feels pretty poor. If we can control the board and let them Bitterblossom themselves low enough, we can burn them out, but that isn't a great plan. He was also able to resolve three Ancestral Visions across the two games we played, which didn't hurt his chances of winning.
Round 3: Budget UR Stormchaser Aggro 2-0 (1-2)
This matchup isn't really worth writing about
Round 4: Wilt-Leaf Abzan 0-2 (1-3)
The first game of this match came down to literally the first decision I made. One the draw, I for some reason led on Colonnade with a Spell Snare in hand, and he proceeded to play a Voice the next turn. I Pathed it and ramped him into a Rhino, and at some point he played a Smiter and it was basically a non-contest. If I had Snared the Voice, I think that game would have turned out very differently. I don't recall the specifics of game 2, but my life pad indicates that I got him to 11 before dying, so it was at least a bit of a contest. I believe I ended up with 3 Geists in hand at one point, and I know he had 3 Voices in play at the end of the game.
Overall, the deck felt fine, and I feel that for the most part, I lost to variance. Logic Knot and Izzet Charm overperformed, and I was generally impressed with Serum Visions, which is actually very surprising to me, as I didn't think the card was that great. With sideboard cards becoming seemingly even more important in the format now, I think having Visions as a way to find them is good.
I've been EXTREMELY impressed with serum visions in the deck. A few months ago you guys weren't running it, and debating about it. 3 Has a nice sweet spot, and just smooths out my first few turns
As advice against RG Titan, just jam Geist. The deck only runs about 3 Angers/Pyroclasms in the side, you aren't going to beat them in the long game. Stick a Geist, hope the don't burn it, counter what you can, and burn them out. You can survive one Titan coming down and fetching 2x Valakut, if a second Titan resolves, it's just over for you. Prismatic omen makes it so they can fetch 4 Valakuts and 2 lands for 60 something damage. Forget trying to be all conservative with your life, Geist is a scary clock if I don't have an Anger or Obstinate Baloth to drop
Running the black splash does not mean you ran my deck. I guarantee you we had different mana bases. I honestly feel that the key to my success with the list so far has more to do with mana base than anything else. As I clarified early, my primary strength against land hate (blood moon, choke, fulminator, etc) has been proper sideboarding and proper piloting. That is how you beat those. Does adding a 4th color make you weaker against land hate? In theory yes. But I have zero cards in my deck that cost double of the same mana type. It is easy for blood moon to harm you if you are running cryptic command with its UUU cost. I believe that my opponents have horrifically misplayed against my deck because they assume they know exactly what it is. Most of my opponents first try to lock me out of U. Look at my list. If I had sided in lingering souls, I can win as a boros deck quite handedly. You only need to win 2 out of 3 matches against your opponent. As I noted earlier the more decisions you make your opponent make, the better place you are going to be in. Maybe my luck against land hate will change when I face pilots who understand that U or B is not the mainstay of my deck. But that's a hard assumption for an opposing pilot to make.
To reiterate, I've never said it was easy to beat blood moon. I've just said that I've never lost a best 2 out of 3 match against it. I am undefeated against the Red Free Wins deck that battled against the eldrazi menace. That deck pulled out turn 2 blood moons.
Regarding the matchups: I do feel that crackling doom helps against merfolk. Kira is a card. That said, supreme verdict would be better there, but that's not a main deck spot for midrange.
Zoo, I think Tasigur does hard work there.
CoCo matchups suck. Black does not help any there. Unless maybe you ran slaughter games sideboard (which could help against scapeshift and living end as well).
I do not feel that I'm overstating the merits. From the beginning I have noted that it is not a better list. It is just a different list. And different lists get played by opponents differently and will lead different results. If you want to start a black splash you are going to have some disadvantages. One of those being you cannot run ghost quarter. Another being you need to be constantly vigilant about fetching the wrong color land. You have the severe capacity of losing to yourself.
I feel that I have been very open and objective in my analysis of a deck that I have tested for months now to positive results. If you run the wrong manabase or pilot incorrectly you will lose, because the deck is much less forgiving. But I enjoy that sort of thing.
Allright. Still the deck hasn't been putting up any results after Hyttel (which didn't do anything crazy good himself). I took inspiration from Hyttel's list myself back then. And to clarify, my list was super similar to yours, the manabase almost identical. And no Cryptics. I did get some good results while playing online, wasn't able to replicate them on paper in relevant tournaments (tried twice with the black splash). On the other hand the deck has been performing good for me on paper when playing Jeskai colors since several years ago, and it is starting to do so again lately after a couple "complicated" years where I basically decided to give up on playing Geist.
Like I said, from my experience the black splash adds little to the deck and makes it significantly more vulnerable. I stay by that experience and will stick to Jeskai. Blue, White and Red already give this deck everything it needs.
P.S. I won't keep going with the Blood Moon/Fulminator Mage discussion. Just two other small things. Doom is basically never going to kill Kira. Like never. Tasigur is too slow vs Zoo and they run Path. These cards are not the way to go in these MUs. And Merfolks gets undoubtedly worse with the black splash, because they run Spreading Seas.
You are right, Crackling Doom will never hit Kira, but it will hit something while shocking their face. Once Merfolk lands Kira all my bolts pretty much go to face, so being able to kill a fish while dealing 2 to their face is more helpful than an electrolyze in that spot.
Tasigur might be too slow against the new 8 whack decks. I have yet to play against those.
Hey, guys, whats the sideboard plan for Collected Company and Kiki-Chord. What exactly do you cut? Suppose it's a fairly cookie-cutter list in the 75, very similar to Nate's minus an Izzet Charm
I get the feeling playing the long game is a massive mistake, since Gavony and tutors are going to wreck us? So, what do I cut and bring in?
I feel like we have a way better matchup with Abzan CoCo than Kiki-Chord. That said, I also don't think Kiki-Chord is that favored against us, maybe like 60/40. We just have to clock them well. I think even Hoogland would say it's a bad matchup for him (I know this because he's straight up said so to me).
I also struggle on what to bring in and take out, other than anger of the gods and aupreme verdict. Do we bring in our graveyard hate alongside it? Of course dispel is awesome so that always comes in
Just to point out, 60-40 is a HUGE difference. The vast majority of MUs is within that range. There aren't many 70-30 or 80-20 MUs out there when you actually start looking at some data. It's almost always stuff like 52-48, 56-44 etc. So 60-40 would be very bad already. And I do think that percentage is more or less correct.
That said, my experience says the opposite. From least bad to worst, Kiki-Chord is the least bad, while Abzan CoCo is in second place and Naya CoCo is the worst of all.
I should say that I was going to say it was something like 56-44 in favor of Abzan CoCo, but I didn't want to be too nitpicky, though I probably should have just gone with that in the first place. I do find it interesting that you find the matchups to be flipped in toughness though.
Should i consider hallowed moonlight for sideboard?
I hacent faced any chord of calling decks yet but the abzan coco match juet felt awkward and i had no idea what to bring in or take out.
This is also my updated list. When i played it a about a week ago, i didn't have the anger in the board. The old lists are just a few pages back and have a short report against the matchup
Thank you for the help! I will be changing my list around some. I dont like having cryptic and not being able to play it, so its going out probably for another electrolyze.
I also dont really like seeing resto, so i will be adding in another knight errant and something else.
Do you think the newnew avacyn could be a good sideboard card against company decks? If she flips i would imagine it could wipe out some combo pieces that are presently on the board, or is it too foolish to try with my creatures probably dieing to it as well?
Thank you for the help! I will be changing my list around some. I dont like having cryptic and not being able to play it, so its going out probably for another electrolyze.
I also dont really like seeing resto, so i will be adding in another knight errant and something else.
Do you think the newnew avacyn could be a good sideboard card against company decks? If she flips i would imagine it could wipe out some combo pieces that are presently on the board, or is it too foolish to try with my creatures probably dieing to it as well?
"IF she flips..."...yeah no, I feel like it's better to just play Anger of the Gods if you just want the sweep effect. She's not a bad card, but I don't feel like that's the kind of card you put in your sideboard. You'd have to also want her in other match-ups, where her 5cmc flash-vigilance-flying and 1-turn indestructible is also REALLY good.
Idk, I'd rather play silver bullet answers instead. Most top-end curves out of the board are Elspeth, Sun's Champion and Keranos, God of the Storm. Since Keranos might be worse now due to Nahiri, Archangel Avacyn COULD technically replace that spot. I don't personally think she makes much sense there though.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Played in SCG Indy this weekend. Missed Day 2 by one point (even though 18 would usually be good enough at an Open that size, we just had an anomaly weekend). I'll post a tourney report tomorrow.
If you're planning to cut Resto something's wrong, she's a key card of the deck, definitely better than Knight-Errant.
Anyway I've been to a small local tournament today, ended up 2nd out of 16 people. Went 3-1 (actually 4-0 but conceded to a friend to allow him to enter the top 4), then won the semifinal and lost the final to Jeskai Control. I'm afraid the Vision unban has worsened that MU more than I had thought. Lost 0-2 pretty badly.
Why am i doing something wrong if i dont like resto? I feel like she is a very reactive card, and elsepth is proactive, and she beats face. Seriously i have seen elspeth more than resto, and everytime im happy it's elspeth instead of resto. I like bashing in with a flying geist rather than saving a 2/2 geist and having my angel get pathd/terminate/etc...
A planeswalker is harder to answer and absorbs damage if they dont have a maelstrom pulse, which is perfect for me.
So can you say she is "all around better than Knight errant"? I just think they do dofferent things and elsepth gears more towards what i wanna do. I havent cut it yet cuz im open to reasoning, im just giving you my opinion.
Care to rebuttal? (this is not sarcasm btw, im asking a sincere question) lol
*also i get it. Avacyn probably isnt good here. No sideboard slots for her lol
Geist has been an unbelievable clock, and only feels better with all these midrange and control decks appearing (Ignoring RG Tron)
Good luck with your upcoming tournaments, Nate, hopefully you keep posting the videos, it's pretty hard to find a bunch of consistent videos on dedicated decks with going through all the lines of play
The deck's crazy fun, can't wait to see what it looks like in the future
Running the black splash does not mean you ran my deck. I guarantee you we had different mana bases. I honestly feel that the key to my success with the list so far has more to do with mana base than anything else. As I clarified early, my primary strength against land hate (blood moon, choke, fulminator, etc) has been proper sideboarding and proper piloting. That is how you beat those. Does adding a 4th color make you weaker against land hate? In theory yes. But I have zero cards in my deck that cost double of the same mana type. It is easy for blood moon to harm you if you are running cryptic command with its UUU cost. I believe that my opponents have horrifically misplayed against my deck because they assume they know exactly what it is. Most of my opponents first try to lock me out of U. Look at my list. If I had sided in lingering souls, I can win as a boros deck quite handedly. You only need to win 2 out of 3 matches against your opponent. As I noted earlier the more decisions you make your opponent make, the better place you are going to be in. Maybe my luck against land hate will change when I face pilots who understand that U or B is not the mainstay of my deck. But that's a hard assumption for an opposing pilot to make.
To reiterate, I've never said it was easy to beat blood moon. I've just said that I've never lost a best 2 out of 3 match against it. I am undefeated against the Red Free Wins deck that battled against the eldrazi menace. That deck pulled out turn 2 blood moons.
Regarding the matchups: I do feel that crackling doom helps against merfolk. Kira is a card. That said, supreme verdict would be better there, but that's not a main deck spot for midrange.
Zoo, I think Tasigur does hard work there.
CoCo matchups suck. Black does not help any there. Unless maybe you ran slaughter games sideboard (which could help against scapeshift and living end as well).
I do not feel that I'm overstating the merits. From the beginning I have noted that it is not a better list. It is just a different list. And different lists get played by opponents differently and will lead different results. If you want to start a black splash you are going to have some disadvantages. One of those being you cannot run ghost quarter. Another being you need to be constantly vigilant about fetching the wrong color land. You have the severe capacity of losing to yourself.
I feel that I have been very open and objective in my analysis of a deck that I have tested for months now to positive results. If you run the wrong manabase or pilot incorrectly you will lose, because the deck is much less forgiving. But I enjoy that sort of thing.
I just want to second the support to GreatNate. His videos inspired me to go Jeskai instead of Scapeshift or Jund for my paper deck.
I agree the work he's done is great. I wouldn't be playing Geist if it weren't for his videos inspiring me to do so. Also wouldn't have done so well at the open without his videos. I don't get to play test as often as I like, so seeing his videos is sometimes as close to testing as I can get.
Definitely keep posting them. I based my deck off of the recent Nick Hansen list, the 3 serum visions really helps smooth out the deck without feeling too intrusive or dead, I think before the Eldrazi Winter people weren't really running it, and the deck felt a little clunkier and a little less easy on card advantage
I think a great example of watching his video was him playing Kiki-Chord, he wins game 1, tries to take the slower route with Keranos, Elspeth, boardwipes, etc. He gets overwhelmed because Kiki-Chord just has a way better late game, it helped me out recalling that and just aiming to go for the quick tempo-burn out plan, my initial reaction would have been to go late game control. Ended up winning that matchup
I'm still mainly a Jund player, but I miss Splinter Twin and miss the tempo plan and playing my stuff on my opponent's turn (outside of slamming a Geist and just spot removing threats they put down 1 at a time).
Round 1: R/G Titanshift 1-2 (0-1)
I beat him handily Game 1 on the back of Geist and just being able to apply pressure and answer his threats, including Izzet Charming a turn 2 Khalni Heart Expedition. He took game 2 due to me playing too conservatively and not getting pressure going quickly enough, as I was trying to negotiate a position where I could play a Geist and hold up a counter spell for Anger/Pyroclasm if he had it. I would have been better off just playing the Geist. Game 3 I kept a sketchy hand and got punished (which I apparently have a habit of doing).
Round 2: UB Faeries 0-2 (0-2)
This matchup just feels pretty poor. If we can control the board and let them Bitterblossom themselves low enough, we can burn them out, but that isn't a great plan. He was also able to resolve three Ancestral Visions across the two games we played, which didn't hurt his chances of winning.
Round 3: Budget UR Stormchaser Aggro 2-0 (1-2)
This matchup isn't really worth writing about
Round 4: Wilt-Leaf Abzan 0-2 (1-3)
The first game of this match came down to literally the first decision I made. One the draw, I for some reason led on Colonnade with a Spell Snare in hand, and he proceeded to play a Voice the next turn. I Pathed it and ramped him into a Rhino, and at some point he played a Smiter and it was basically a non-contest. If I had Snared the Voice, I think that game would have turned out very differently. I don't recall the specifics of game 2, but my life pad indicates that I got him to 11 before dying, so it was at least a bit of a contest. I believe I ended up with 3 Geists in hand at one point, and I know he had 3 Voices in play at the end of the game.
Overall, the deck felt fine, and I feel that for the most part, I lost to variance. Logic Knot and Izzet Charm overperformed, and I was generally impressed with Serum Visions, which is actually very surprising to me, as I didn't think the card was that great. With sideboard cards becoming seemingly even more important in the format now, I think having Visions as a way to find them is good.
UW Control
UWR Geist
UWR Control
As advice against RG Titan, just jam Geist. The deck only runs about 3 Angers/Pyroclasms in the side, you aren't going to beat them in the long game. Stick a Geist, hope the don't burn it, counter what you can, and burn them out. You can survive one Titan coming down and fetching 2x Valakut, if a second Titan resolves, it's just over for you. Prismatic omen makes it so they can fetch 4 Valakuts and 2 lands for 60 something damage. Forget trying to be all conservative with your life, Geist is a scary clock if I don't have an Anger or Obstinate Baloth to drop
You are right, Crackling Doom will never hit Kira, but it will hit something while shocking their face. Once Merfolk lands Kira all my bolts pretty much go to face, so being able to kill a fish while dealing 2 to their face is more helpful than an electrolyze in that spot.
Tasigur might be too slow against the new 8 whack decks. I have yet to play against those.
I get the feeling playing the long game is a massive mistake, since Gavony and tutors are going to wreck us? So, what do I cut and bring in?
UW Control
UWR Geist
UWR Control
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
I should say that I was going to say it was something like 56-44 in favor of Abzan CoCo, but I didn't want to be too nitpicky, though I probably should have just gone with that in the first place. I do find it interesting that you find the matchups to be flipped in toughness though.
UW Control
UWR Geist
UWR Control
3x Geist of Saint Traft
2x Restoration Angel
4x Snapcaster Mage
1x Thundermaw Hellkite
2x Vendilion Clique
1x Electrolyze
1x Cryptic Command
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Lightning Helix
2x Mana Leak
4x Path to Exile
2x Remand
2x Spell Snare
1x Elspeth, Knight Errant
4x Arid Mesa
4x Celestial Colonnade
1x Ghost Quarter
4x Flooded Strand
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Hallowed Fountain
2x Island
1x Plains
1x Mountain
2x Sacred Foundry
2x Steam Vents
2x Sulfur Falls
1x Celestial Purge
1x Dispel
1x Engineered Explosives
1x Izzet staticaster
1x Negate
1x Pithing Needle
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Stony Silence
1x Supreme Verdict
2x Timely Reinforcements
1x Wear / Tear
Should i consider hallowed moonlight for sideboard?
I hacent faced any chord of calling decks yet but the abzan coco match juet felt awkward and i had no idea what to bring in or take out.
This is also my updated list. When i played it a about a week ago, i didn't have the anger in the board. The old lists are just a few pages back and have a short report against the matchup
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
I also dont really like seeing resto, so i will be adding in another knight errant and something else.
Do you think the newnew avacyn could be a good sideboard card against company decks? If she flips i would imagine it could wipe out some combo pieces that are presently on the board, or is it too foolish to try with my creatures probably dieing to it as well?
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.
"IF she flips..."...yeah no, I feel like it's better to just play Anger of the Gods if you just want the sweep effect. She's not a bad card, but I don't feel like that's the kind of card you put in your sideboard. You'd have to also want her in other match-ups, where her 5cmc flash-vigilance-flying and 1-turn indestructible is also REALLY good.
Idk, I'd rather play silver bullet answers instead. Most top-end curves out of the board are Elspeth, Sun's Champion and Keranos, God of the Storm. Since Keranos might be worse now due to Nahiri, Archangel Avacyn COULD technically replace that spot. I don't personally think she makes much sense there though.
biggest change is he is running 2x grim lavamancer in the main
UW Control
UWR Geist
UWR Control
Why am i doing something wrong if i dont like resto? I feel like she is a very reactive card, and elsepth is proactive, and she beats face. Seriously i have seen elspeth more than resto, and everytime im happy it's elspeth instead of resto. I like bashing in with a flying geist rather than saving a 2/2 geist and having my angel get pathd/terminate/etc...
A planeswalker is harder to answer and absorbs damage if they dont have a maelstrom pulse, which is perfect for me.
So can you say she is "all around better than Knight errant"? I just think they do dofferent things and elsepth gears more towards what i wanna do. I havent cut it yet cuz im open to reasoning, im just giving you my opinion.
Care to rebuttal?
*also i get it. Avacyn probably isnt good here. No sideboard slots for her lol
Thanks you very much DarkNightCavalier for the Sig.