Erayo, Soratami Ascendant is really hard to flip, even for decks built around them. We do have a lot of 0-cmc cards, but it's still inconsistent. Plus, it's not that good for us. Erayo is best backed by a clock, which we lack. So against us any deck can easily just play a spell (countered) -> Play an answer to Erayo.
Sai, Master Thopterist is a bit more interesting. Control decks are built to have answers, and prison decks struggle against too many answers. So against control, I think we need proactive cards. Creatures are generally best because they can pressure walkers and can't be negated. It's also likely the opponent brings out their removal, so creatures tend to be more valuable. Although against control with red, creatures will unfortunately die to burn.
It may be worth a Hangarback Walker or Walking Ballista in the 75. These are both decent against control, but it also turns maps and tolaria wests into (proactive) threats for the long game, which can matter against control decks. (From my experience playing control mirrors with Blue Tron)
I'm not really sure what's a good answer either. There are many cryptic decks in my meta, so I want to figure that out too.
Susurrus_mtg came back on stream last night. There are a few updates.
He's actively trying to solve the cryptic problem, his current solution is three etched champions in the SB. He's tested Sai a bit and is still unconfirmed, he said it may be worth a slot in the side over one of the champions.
1 Welding Jar
1 damping sphere
1 Torpor orb
1 Sorcerous spyglass
1 chalice of the void
2 Ghirapur Aether Grid
4 Spellskite
3 Etched Champion
1 Padeem, Consul of Innovation
It looks like he's shaved a pyrite spell bomb and an engineered explosives from the MB for a welding jar and a spyglass
Other than that the only innovation is shaving a fetch for a field of ruin.
He said he's got a lot of people on his discord server, but I wasn't able to catch where that was - to be honest I don't know much about discord. If you guys know what/where that is feel free to post. Otherwise he's vowed to stream more while he's innovating around the cryptic menace hahahaha
After a few games with Etched Champion I can report that it's really awesome. Against Tarmo decks it makes them overextend to get around it which plays well into engineered explosives, and eventually champ just turns into an unblockable clock. I feel like even one in your 60 after SB can create great inevitability with whir against a lot of the matchups where we end up bogging down like blue moon/jund/UW control etc
Trophy Mage could be an interesting consideration, which hits our high value artifacts Ensnaring Bridge and Crucible of Worlds, while giving a body to pressure walkers. This would also hit an Etched Champion. Against the slower decks, the mana cost is not really an issue, and getting an extra body (even a 2/2) is useful.
Hi folks! Been grinding Ur Prison at my locals to awesome results! Highly suggest this deck to anyone who is new and questioning picking up the cards. Price aside, the deck is so functional and fun to play; the plethora of tutor effects offers redundancy and each powerful card offers a way to hold it's own against the top modern decks.
I have also been working on a Primer of my own using Google .docs; I would just like to contribute to the thread in any way I can. I will continuously update it as I can (working and general life duties prevent a diligent upkeep). Hopefully some of you can suggest modifications or any interesting things to put in the Primer and it would be greatly appreciated by me and most likely anyone who aims to utilize the information.
Here is the link to the Primer. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uk4ovMIetvFnK8C-ROuttAkH8GmtVyf_9HcAuLlQjKs/edit#heading=h.4nl84694m7ql
I will also be posting a Spreadsheet of matchup sideboarding for easy access. I am pretty meticulous so any nitpicking wouldn't go without thanks.
Edit: this is my celebratory 69th post... so yay
Hi does anybody still play this deck I built the version that runs green for ancient stirrings that recently had 2 copies in the top 8 at gp indy I tried to find a thread on that but this was as close as I got
Sai, Master Thopterist is a bit more interesting. Control decks are built to have answers, and prison decks struggle against too many answers. So against control, I think we need proactive cards. Creatures are generally best because they can pressure walkers and can't be negated. It's also likely the opponent brings out their removal, so creatures tend to be more valuable. Although against control with red, creatures will unfortunately die to burn.
It may be worth a Hangarback Walker or Walking Ballista in the 75. These are both decent against control, but it also turns maps and tolaria wests into (proactive) threats for the long game, which can matter against control decks. (From my experience playing control mirrors with Blue Tron)
I'm not really sure what's a good answer either. There are many cryptic decks in my meta, so I want to figure that out too.
He's actively trying to solve the cryptic problem, his current solution is three etched champions in the SB. He's tested Sai a bit and is still unconfirmed, he said it may be worth a slot in the side over one of the champions.
1 Welding Jar
1 damping sphere
1 Torpor orb
1 Sorcerous spyglass
1 chalice of the void
2 Ghirapur Aether Grid
4 Spellskite
3 Etched Champion
1 Padeem, Consul of Innovation
It looks like he's shaved a pyrite spell bomb and an engineered explosives from the MB for a welding jar and a spyglass
Other than that the only innovation is shaving a fetch for a field of ruin.
He said he's got a lot of people on his discord server, but I wasn't able to catch where that was - to be honest I don't know much about discord. If you guys know what/where that is feel free to post. Otherwise he's vowed to stream more while he's innovating around the cryptic menace hahahaha
Very neat.
I want to find this Discord too...
I have also been working on a Primer of my own using Google .docs; I would just like to contribute to the thread in any way I can. I will continuously update it as I can (working and general life duties prevent a diligent upkeep). Hopefully some of you can suggest modifications or any interesting things to put in the Primer and it would be greatly appreciated by me and most likely anyone who aims to utilize the information.
Here is the link to the Primer. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uk4ovMIetvFnK8C-ROuttAkH8GmtVyf_9HcAuLlQjKs/edit#heading=h.4nl84694m7ql
I will also be posting a Spreadsheet of matchup sideboarding for easy access. I am pretty meticulous so any nitpicking wouldn't go without thanks.
Edit: this is my celebratory 69th post... so yay
23rd Finish
26th Finish
Both are splashing B for Tezzeret in the SB.
Greetings,
Kathal
Modern/Legacy
either funpolice (Delver, Deathcloud, UW Control) or the fun decks (especially those ft. Griselbrand)