Couldn't you do some busted things with Living End, Wheel of Fate and Restore Balance? Wheel and Balance let you discard your fatties, and Living End lets you reanimate them, it just doesn't work on Emrakul. If you play Looting and Cathartic, you can discard the creatures or the Suspend spells and if you have GDD you can flash them back for free or just Expertise them for free. You can even just Suspend Wheel on turn 1 or turn 2 and it lets you dig way further than the typical discard spells. If you play Mardu you can even play 12 copies of Expertises if you'd like to and Kari Zev can target one of your Servo tokens even if you don't find Forbidden Orchard. Worse comes to worst, you can manually suspend Living End and just get back all your creatures that you discard.
I'm thinking this is an all-in version with Simian Spirit Guides and Desperate Rituals.
He had a terrible luck in those videos but it made rather clear that Faithless Looting is probably necessary
(rather than Through the Breach which can also be a dead card often) and the number of mana dorks (or lands) can be reduced.
Am I the only one that saw the videos posted on this page? Zero wins... SMH. I think you guys should find a more competitive deck or alter the card pool a lot.
Most combo decks have high variance. Doesn't mean the deck is bad. You just have to pilot it well, know how to agressively mulligan, and get a little lucky every now and then.
Yes much better. Lol
So my next question. Why not make this just a ridiculously stupid deck by playing no 0 1 or 2 casting cards and cascade into the break//entering or beck//call combos? Probably could take out the beck and add in 4 more stupid fatties to ensure you hit something like 90% of the time. Add in the expertise for when you actually draw into break... Just a thought... That doesn't sound half bad now that I really think about it.
Delving into that thought a little bit. If you run 12 or so 3 cost cascades and then 10 or so expertise cards you can get great odds you are going off turn 4 at the latest and almost always hitting the target. Giving you effectively 22 or so 1 card combos.
Most people come here to build decks rather than to hound those doing it. If you have an idea for another deck I suggest you keep the rudeness to yourself and work on your list until it's ready to share.
Most people come here to build decks rather than to hound those doing it. If you have an idea for another deck I suggest you keep the rudeness to yourself and work on your list until it's ready to share.
There is no one being rude in this thread. I reread the whole thing. Unless you think I'm being rude. I made my suggestion based on the simple fact sometimes it's okay to bring to light some new ideas to further development or spur new ideas.
On a cascade trigger, when you hit a split card, you can only cast one of either side of the card. Since your not casting the split card from your hand you can't fuse it. While the whole cascade/fuse thing was a neat idea, it doesn't work unfortunately
hey people, I too have been piloting this deck the last couple of days.
I believe the win-loss ratio is generally in my favor, though difficult match-ups include decks like jund who are discard heavy. Other than quite a few people I decided to stay on Rakdos and only splash white for the SB. I have been happy with faithless looting as well as tormenting voice in the deck so far.
this is the current list if someone is interested.
On a cascade trigger, when you hit a split card, you can only cast one of either side of the card. Since your not casting the split card from your hand you can't fuse it. While the whole cascade/fuse thing was a neat idea, it doesn't work unfortunately
Thank you for pointing this out. Still loving the deck guys, but back to the drawing board for neat new ideas since none of the fuse cards seem to be strong enough to warrant inclusion along side the expertises.
hey people, I too have been piloting this deck the last couple of days.
I believe the win-loss ratio is generally in my favor, though difficult match-ups include decks like jund who are discard heavy. Other than quite a few people I decided to stay on Rakdos and only splash white for the SB. I have been happy with faithless looting as well as tormenting voice in the deck so far.
this is the current list if someone is interested.
Hey so finkel was streaming this deck a couple of days ago and I believe he went 5-0 in league. been testing and sometimes the opponent just can't do anything, because of the multiple angles.
I'm thinking this is an all-in version with Simian Spirit Guides and Desperate Rituals.
http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/modern-monday-bird-brains/
He seemed to be very unlucky during his games drawing rather badly and maybe should've mulliganed more aggresively.
The SB was rather terrible except for Leyline of Sanctity (which can also be hit and miss).
If I were to add Faithless Looting for filtering I would rather cut Noble Hierarch (or Sylvan Caryatid in other versions) rather than Brain in a Jar.
He had a terrible luck in those videos but it made rather clear that Faithless Looting is probably necessary
(rather than Through the Breach which can also be a dead card often) and the number of mana dorks (or lands) can be reduced.
Maybe a 2/2 split of Through the Breach/Brain in a Jar is the right call.
Here the deck had much better showing - http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=13813 than in the videos on Mtggoldfish or Channelfireball.
Though having 9x payoff creatures (rather than 8x) seems better to have a higher chance of hitting with Breaking // Entering.
So my next question. Why not make this just a ridiculously stupid deck by playing no 0 1 or 2 casting cards and cascade into the break//entering or beck//call combos? Probably could take out the beck and add in 4 more stupid fatties to ensure you hit something like 90% of the time. Add in the expertise for when you actually draw into break... Just a thought... That doesn't sound half bad now that I really think about it.
Delving into that thought a little bit. If you run 12 or so 3 cost cascades and then 10 or so expertise cards you can get great odds you are going off turn 4 at the latest and almost always hitting the target. Giving you effectively 22 or so 1 card combos.
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Top 8 in States with the same version from the videos on MtgGoldfish (no Faithless Looting, 4x Brain) with a fixed SB.
I believe the win-loss ratio is generally in my favor, though difficult match-ups include decks like jund who are discard heavy. Other than quite a few people I decided to stay on Rakdos and only splash white for the SB. I have been happy with faithless looting as well as tormenting voice in the deck so far.
this is the current list if someone is interested.
Artifact
3 Brain in a Jar
Creature
4 Griselbrand
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Instant
3 Goryo's Vengeance
Land
3 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Mountain
2 Sacred Foundry
2 Swamp
1 Arid Mesa
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Faithless Looting
4 Beck // Call
4 Breaking // Entering
3 Collective Brutality
3 Kari Zev's Expertise
2 Yahenni's Expertise
3 Tormenting Voice
Artifact
4 Defense Grid
Enchantment
4 Leyline of Sanctity
Instant
4 Wear // Tear
Sorcery
3 Crumble to Dust
I like what you have done here. Basically live to turn 3 or 4 and then you have multiple ways to combo out.
// 4 Artifact
4 Brain in a Jar
// 8 Creature
4 Griselbrand
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
// 4 Instant
4 Goryo's Vengeance
// 21 Land
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Forbidden Orchard
4 Polluted Delta
1 Spirebluff Canal
1 Swamp
1 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vents
1 Island
1 Mountain
3 Thoughtseize
4 Kari Zev's Expertise
4 Beck // Call
3 Faithless Looting
4 Serum Visions
4 Breaking // Entering
1 Collective Brutality
My H/W list
I'll go back to Polymorph/Indomitable Creativity to cheat in Emrakul's.
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UBRWBreya, Etherium ArchitectWRBU
A Prolific Loser To Blood Moon
good riddance
lol
Were you traumatized at fnm???
~Modern~
BGURWhiteless Death's ShadowRUGB
GWRUSaheeli BlinkURWG
RGBUGood Ole' DredgeUBGR
~Commander~
URWNarset, Enlightened Time-TravelerWRU
UBRWBreya, Etherium ArchitectWRBU
A Prolific Loser To Blood Moon