Well you're right about one thing, I disagree. I've won games with reckoner keeping aggro (zoo, merfolk) from attacking at all until I can drop anger of the gods, clearing the board and dinging them for 3. SGM gets run over by everything zoo plays (if it doesn't get bolted/helixed), let alone all the midrange decks. Reckoner can block and kill everything on the ground, blocks and burns opp for everything x/3 or less, and can just win later for one R. More robust against more opponents.
Obviously you're a grandmaster fan, but you're letting your zeal cloud reality. I honestly can't think of a situation where there isn't a better option. Using your affinity example, for the same cc I side out SGM for stony silence. Against burn I side out SGM for Kor Firewalker or timely reinforcements. Interesting card, but not the one I want.
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lol this is why all the actual MtG players treat this site as a laughing stock. Zero logic, zero rational thought, zero actual potential growth from deliberating with randoms on here. But yeah play your R/W,R/W/,R/W costing little ox dude in a three color deck chock full of basics and tons of Islands, in a format that can just Path your guy so you don't get to turn your 1CC removal into super efficient Helixes, I'll be on the sideline watching you hardly manage to beat a single opponent with all the dead cards you're likely to run. Whatever.
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Standard internet response. Instead of refuting facts you opt for a personal affront. If you have legitimate reasons and data to support your argument I'm all ears. I can be convinced SGM is the better play, but not with what you've put forth so far. Anecdotal info against one archtype is simply not compelling.
For real, no heckling, please demonstrate how SGM is the better play. Vids? I must be missing something.
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lol this is why all the actual MtG players treat this site as a laughing stock. Zero logic, zero rational thought, zero actual potential growth from deliberating with randoms on here. But yeah play your R/W,R/W/,R/W costing little ox dude in a three color deck chock full of basics and tons of Islands, in a format that can just Path your guy so you don't get to turn your 1CC removal into super efficient Helixes, I'll be on the sideline watching you hardly manage to beat a single opponent with all the dead cards you're likely to run. Whatever.
Instead of being rude and unhelpful, could you perhaps provide us with your own testing results that show us the worth of Soulfire Grand Master? I personally like her as a card, and want her to work, but given my own testing results versus decks like Splinter Twin to Amulet Bloom and all the way down to random rogue zombie mill decks I have never really wished she was in my 75. I know the last time Swans did well at a MTGO Daily the deck ran her, but I'm not sure what it's done since then slash if anyone's changed their minds about her. I know Caleb Durward played the deck on his stream and did not like the card, so there's that. But please, I really am interested if you have any FMN results or MTGO Dailies or similar data that you could show us. If we're missing something, we'd like to know.
(Also, "real MTG players treat this site as a laughing stock?" Pretty sure Grishoalbrand from GP Charlotte was actually developed on this very forum. At least, if Bob Huang is to be believed.)
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On a similar note but different idea, I'm mulling over myth realized. Cheap early drop. Grows just by playing stuff we'd play anyway. Quickly turns big enough to block or add pressure. Yes, it dies to abrupt decay and path once activated, but I think there's potential.
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lol this is why all the actual MtG players treat this site as a laughing stock. Zero logic, zero rational thought, zero actual potential growth from deliberating with randoms on here. But yeah play your R/W,R/W/,R/W costing little ox dude in a three color deck chock full of basics and tons of Islands, in a format that can just Path your guy so you don't get to turn your 1CC removal into super efficient Helixes, I'll be on the sideline watching you hardly manage to beat a single opponent with all the dead cards you're likely to run. Whatever.
Instead of being rude and unhelpful, could you perhaps provide us with your own testing results that show us the worth of Soulfire Grand Master? I personally like her as a card, and want her to work, but given my own testing results versus decks like Splinter Twin to Amulet Bloom and all the way down to random rogue zombie mill decks I have never really wished she was in my 75. I know the last time Swans did well at a MTGO Daily the deck ran her, but I'm not sure what it's done since then slash if anyone's changed their minds about her. I know Caleb Durward played the deck on his stream and did not like the card, so there's that. But please, I really am interested if you have any FMN results or MTGO Dailies or similar data that you could show us. If we're missing something, we'd like to know.
(Also, "real MTG players treat this site as a laughing stock?" Pretty sure Grishoalbrand from GP Charlotte was actually developed on this very forum. At least, if Bob Huang is to be believed.)
You're missing my points, if I have to be called rude and unhelpful just to come across as an uninhibited person then so be it, because I'm not going to bite my tongue for people who meet my input with scathing and vehement opposition just because I'm challenging them somehow. I get tired of having to defend myself against people who actually don't make a counterpoint worth anything.
As far as the no logic comment, basically saying "no Soulfire would hurt my chances" vs "Reckoner actually managed to get me there" is a pretty big logic trap if you're not competent enough to catch it. To illustrate a parallel, imagine Sled_Dog and I meet with you at some sports bar or w/e. We both recant stories about girls we've dated this year. I mention that after getting to know them, I realized just how much of a deal breaker bad hygiene would have been, so not grooming myself meticulously would have hurt my chances with them, in retrospect. Sled chimes in with something to the extent of "well yeah but I dated this one girl who was pretty lax, halfway through the date I realized I had a big mustard stain on my pants but she didn't really mind"
Do you see where I'm going with this? I could point you to some PVDDR articles about being results oriented and how to not approach your odds the wrong way with such misleading information about your matchups and how to best win them...but honestly don't feel entitled to think I'm here to educate anyone, or that I need to go in great length to defend myself and my points. I'm not here to win any hearts with my tech but honestly there are four pages of people who have way, way more rationalizing to do. Could you perhaps urge them to provide us with their own testing results, so as to explain why they landed on UBr(g) Swans Loam Hypergenesis Wave Storm (this is hyperbole in case anyone is still taking me literally) instead of improving upon the 4-0 list in the primer? No? And you want me to somehow give you a five point lesson on Soulfire, I bet.
I've said everything there is to be said in a brief manner about the card. It's not the best, but there's not much you can do to actually save yourself important slots in your 75 for the rest of the field. If you put X amount of Forge-Tenders/Kor Firewalkers in your 75, then how do you optimally beat Affinity or Bogles without dilluting your board for beatdown oriented matchups? And vice versa, if you were to play X Katakis or X Celestial Flare, what then for the Burn matchup? Soulfire has enough overlap that it can help you against anything that is working to drain your life ASAP. Don't fall into the other trap of thinking that all advantage in Magic is the same.
Just because you blocked a guy with First Strike Reckoner and killed another one 'for free' before taking damage from another 2 of your opponent's Zoo creatures, doesn't mean you are favored if you were to have had to chump with Soulfire and double Bolt two guys instead. To demonstratively prove my point, I've seen people Wrath a board of three RDW creatures away instead of casting Timely Reinforcements and holding Celestial Purge up, to only promptly lose at the hands of hasty creatures. Point in case is that philosophy of fire teaches us not to value all the little ticks and +1s in terms of cards, but ways to reduce your opponent's chances of beating you as values of importance. This is why you're better off casting 2/1s for R to beat a Timely Reinforcements, despite the opponent having the three-creatures-in-one-card advantage, as long as you back it up with a Hero of Oxid Ridge.
Anyway, after testing agaisnt Jund I'm convinced that Scrying Sheets is damn near MVP. Helped me beat Liliana singlehandedly (esp. since grabbing lands into your grip helps to soften the blow of her -6), I'm thinking of dropping Mouth of Ronom for a 2nd Sheets tbh, it can be something that supplements the Serum Visions since this archetype isn't necessarily built for digging too well. Also I've dropped a single Snow-Covered Mountain for a Snow-Covered Island to help with Cryptic, as well as to support our post board games once we stick Blood Moon since Snapcaster, Counterflux, and Swans need double blue mana. I want to say this list needs some more card replacement/filtering but Wall of Omens/Seagate Oracle/Spreading Seas/Jace Beleren all just seem to miss the mark a little. Still looking into ways to have this deck feel a little more control-ey without a Swans actually going off like crazy.
And on a final note, if you ask around, I'm sure you will get a similar response to mine as far as playing a card that needs R/W,R/W,R/W to cast, and in a deck with ~4 islands and a few non-colored sources...this is an extremely time-sensitive spell, and withholding from playing him right once turn 3 hits because your landbase isn't optimized for him, basically makes Reckoner useless against the type of decks he's trying to stonewall. Not to mention once you dilute from the Scrying Sheets/Skred plan by making it easier to cast Reckoner, then you're simply better off just playing UWr Control, because all the wheels will have fallen off the Swans plan with a total lack of cohesion in the list. If you are that sold on playing it, and if it's appropriate in a non-Burn aggressive metagame, then more power to you. However if you want to couple it with Skred and also abuse Swans+Skred then maybe R(w) Skred Red is what you're looking for, not a midrange/control build like this one, which needs very sensitive mana fixing.
Trying something new with my list currently, as I really liked Seismic Assault in Grixis Swans from standard I had to try something similar, plus it gives more value to the Harvest Pyre tech and the lands that you end up having to discard at end of turn as it is (my personal opinion). I feel as though I could be sideboarding either Anger of the Gods or Blood Moon because my first version did SB Anger of the Gods and played 3 Condescend as ways to fix my draws and slow an opponent down. Maindeck Blood Moon makes this list very "Blue Moon"-like though so Id actually prefer to SB anger of the gods and cut the electrolyze if I were to find that condescend was a better use of the card slot...maybe.
Decks I have in my bag of tricks- Needless to say, someone who wants to play will probably have a deck UB/x Faeries UR Storm XURWB Affinity G Elves UW control
In some limited testing of reckoner, soulfire, and vendilion clique in the same slots it turns out clique had the biggest impact and applied the best pressure. Win % with reckoner and SGM ended up being very close, with SGM being slightly better. However whenever clique landed it was often perfect disruption, and flying 3 power couldn't ignored either. So yeah, clique is the call for now. Myth realized was a non-starter though interesting.
VoodooKick: I don't know you. I don't know what sort of MTG environment you're used to. Nothing was "vehement" or "scathing" about what I said. If you're going to state something and want it treated as fact I need more than "I beat affinity with it", that's all I asked for, and something you've still neglected to provide. It's cool. I tested soulfire myself. It's just ok. Sorry if that offends, but your pet card is just ok. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that your hygiene-centric date has buck teeth and a lazy eye. So yeah, you do need to do more that just say "X card rocks". Hyperbole isn't enough.
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I'm running jeskai, though we discussed grixis a couple pages back. Most folks like thoughtsieze, IOK, and terminate, and I love notion thief and countersquall. I don't know anyone play testing though.
So i went to GP Copenhagen with this deck. i went 3-3-1 before i dropped.
match 1: 2-1 against boogles
match 2: 2-0 against burn
match 3: 0-2 UR twin - had no chance against his counterspells plus he resolved a keranos (not fun when you have swans in play)
match 4: 2-0 Grixis twin - blood moon FTW
match 5: 0-2 big - zoo Allmost had game 2 but i had a really unlucky draw.
match 6: 1-2 infect - really tough matchup
match 7: 1-1 UWR control - took way to long
After this i went home and tried to figure out what to do with the deck.
i've tried to put in a twin combo. Just to make the other guys abit afraid. and for an accidental fast win.
The deck seems good. only played 8 games with it. but i'm 7-1 (been playing in the tournament practice on modo)
So i'm building this deck as a backup "surprise!" deck to spike modern events with at GP London.
I've been looking over the lists, and i reckon, with the deck being mostly blue/red with only a couple of white cards, you could fairly easily make a switch from white to having a green splash.
The reason? Tarmogoyf. The deck's super good at grinding creature decks out, but against control and combo it lacks early pressure. Goyf gives it to you while allowing you to hold up counters. Delver would work in a similar way except it's really easy to remove.
Also hornet's nest would make a hilarious one-of
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Played the original decklist (yes the one with SGM) at a casual Modern tournament the other weekend (at a convention so it was only an 8-man) but have to chime in that SGM was the least effective card in the deck for me. I maybe gained 2-3 life tops from her anytime she was out, and was basically only good for me as a chump blocker.
On the plus, had a fantastic game against a Tasigur Delve player. Ended up getting close to time and he had 10 life. I would die next turn to a Tasigur + Angler but he was tapped out because I had Remanded his Tasigur and he then recast it without ability to Delve. I had Swans and a Snap on the BF with a Snap, Skred, a second Swans and 2 lands in hand. I attack for 4, he takes it. I count my snow perms, I have 9. I count the cards in my library, I have 9. I skred the Swans, draw into two bolts for the win. It was fantastic and we both got a big laugh out of me winning with 0 cards left in my library. But I figure, if I was going to die next turn anyway, do it in style.
Anyway, the deck is super fun, but I might end up heading in a more casual direction. I've been eyeing Molten Vortex and might try and brew up a goofy UR deck with Swans, Treasure Hunt, Magmatic Insight, counterburn and a snow/Skred theme.
To people saying they don't like SGm, I just don't understand. I've been playing this deck for a while now, and that card regularly stabilizes me, and gets me to the point where i can win. Easily gaining 5-10 life, if not much more. I'm just confused how others aren't having this same success with it?
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Not just the Tendo King, the power of the Galactic Leyline surpasses that of the Tempa Emperor, No!, It's magnificent power is even greater than that!
Okay, fun idea. Just as an exercise in "why the hell not", why don't we test out Blasphemous Act?
Too much card draw.
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No, I really LOVE Swans. It is in my top 2 of favorite creatures of all time. I have been pretty shy to try Swans yet in Modern. I think that if Bloodbraid Elf was unbanned, I would try Seismic Swans, hopefully similar to the former Standard version. That deck was sick.
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No, I really LOVE Swans. It is in my top 2 of favorite creatures of all time. I have been pretty shy to try Swans yet in Modern. I think that if Bloodbraid Elf was unbanned, I would try Seismic Swans, hopefully similar to the former Standard version. That deck was sick.
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I think that's a fine sideboard plan, though I think that you'll find Spellskite more useful than you thought. Also, Electrolyze seems good, as it's a 3-for-1 when used on an x/1 (one to the x/1, one to the swans, draw two).
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Isn't that pretty ehh? Even if you control into it, it's going to mostly serve as worse than any of your other bolt effects... I'd rather run main-deck Rending Volley.
Obviously you're a grandmaster fan, but you're letting your zeal cloud reality. I honestly can't think of a situation where there isn't a better option. Using your affinity example, for the same cc I side out SGM for stony silence. Against burn I side out SGM for Kor Firewalker or timely reinforcements. Interesting card, but not the one I want.
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For real, no heckling, please demonstrate how SGM is the better play. Vids? I must be missing something.
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Instead of being rude and unhelpful, could you perhaps provide us with your own testing results that show us the worth of Soulfire Grand Master? I personally like her as a card, and want her to work, but given my own testing results versus decks like Splinter Twin to Amulet Bloom and all the way down to random rogue zombie mill decks I have never really wished she was in my 75. I know the last time Swans did well at a MTGO Daily the deck ran her, but I'm not sure what it's done since then slash if anyone's changed their minds about her. I know Caleb Durward played the deck on his stream and did not like the card, so there's that. But please, I really am interested if you have any FMN results or MTGO Dailies or similar data that you could show us. If we're missing something, we'd like to know.
(Also, "real MTG players treat this site as a laughing stock?" Pretty sure Grishoalbrand from GP Charlotte was actually developed on this very forum. At least, if Bob Huang is to be believed.)
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You're missing my points, if I have to be called rude and unhelpful just to come across as an uninhibited person then so be it, because I'm not going to bite my tongue for people who meet my input with scathing and vehement opposition just because I'm challenging them somehow. I get tired of having to defend myself against people who actually don't make a counterpoint worth anything.
As far as the no logic comment, basically saying "no Soulfire would hurt my chances" vs "Reckoner actually managed to get me there" is a pretty big logic trap if you're not competent enough to catch it. To illustrate a parallel, imagine Sled_Dog and I meet with you at some sports bar or w/e. We both recant stories about girls we've dated this year. I mention that after getting to know them, I realized just how much of a deal breaker bad hygiene would have been, so not grooming myself meticulously would have hurt my chances with them, in retrospect. Sled chimes in with something to the extent of "well yeah but I dated this one girl who was pretty lax, halfway through the date I realized I had a big mustard stain on my pants but she didn't really mind"
Do you see where I'm going with this? I could point you to some PVDDR articles about being results oriented and how to not approach your odds the wrong way with such misleading information about your matchups and how to best win them...but honestly don't feel entitled to think I'm here to educate anyone, or that I need to go in great length to defend myself and my points. I'm not here to win any hearts with my tech but honestly there are four pages of people who have way, way more rationalizing to do. Could you perhaps urge them to provide us with their own testing results, so as to explain why they landed on UBr(g) Swans Loam Hypergenesis Wave Storm (this is hyperbole in case anyone is still taking me literally) instead of improving upon the 4-0 list in the primer? No? And you want me to somehow give you a five point lesson on Soulfire, I bet.
I've said everything there is to be said in a brief manner about the card. It's not the best, but there's not much you can do to actually save yourself important slots in your 75 for the rest of the field. If you put X amount of Forge-Tenders/Kor Firewalkers in your 75, then how do you optimally beat Affinity or Bogles without dilluting your board for beatdown oriented matchups? And vice versa, if you were to play X Katakis or X Celestial Flare, what then for the Burn matchup? Soulfire has enough overlap that it can help you against anything that is working to drain your life ASAP. Don't fall into the other trap of thinking that all advantage in Magic is the same.
Just because you blocked a guy with First Strike Reckoner and killed another one 'for free' before taking damage from another 2 of your opponent's Zoo creatures, doesn't mean you are favored if you were to have had to chump with Soulfire and double Bolt two guys instead. To demonstratively prove my point, I've seen people Wrath a board of three RDW creatures away instead of casting Timely Reinforcements and holding Celestial Purge up, to only promptly lose at the hands of hasty creatures. Point in case is that philosophy of fire teaches us not to value all the little ticks and +1s in terms of cards, but ways to reduce your opponent's chances of beating you as values of importance. This is why you're better off casting 2/1s for R to beat a Timely Reinforcements, despite the opponent having the three-creatures-in-one-card advantage, as long as you back it up with a Hero of Oxid Ridge.
Anyway, after testing agaisnt Jund I'm convinced that Scrying Sheets is damn near MVP. Helped me beat Liliana singlehandedly (esp. since grabbing lands into your grip helps to soften the blow of her -6), I'm thinking of dropping Mouth of Ronom for a 2nd Sheets tbh, it can be something that supplements the Serum Visions since this archetype isn't necessarily built for digging too well. Also I've dropped a single Snow-Covered Mountain for a Snow-Covered Island to help with Cryptic, as well as to support our post board games once we stick Blood Moon since Snapcaster, Counterflux, and Swans need double blue mana. I want to say this list needs some more card replacement/filtering but Wall of Omens/Seagate Oracle/Spreading Seas/Jace Beleren all just seem to miss the mark a little. Still looking into ways to have this deck feel a little more control-ey without a Swans actually going off like crazy.
And on a final note, if you ask around, I'm sure you will get a similar response to mine as far as playing a card that needs R/W,R/W,R/W to cast, and in a deck with ~4 islands and a few non-colored sources...this is an extremely time-sensitive spell, and withholding from playing him right once turn 3 hits because your landbase isn't optimized for him, basically makes Reckoner useless against the type of decks he's trying to stonewall. Not to mention once you dilute from the Scrying Sheets/Skred plan by making it easier to cast Reckoner, then you're simply better off just playing UWr Control, because all the wheels will have fallen off the Swans plan with a total lack of cohesion in the list. If you are that sold on playing it, and if it's appropriate in a non-Burn aggressive metagame, then more power to you. However if you want to couple it with Skred and also abuse Swans+Skred then maybe R(w) Skred Red is what you're looking for, not a midrange/control build like this one, which needs very sensitive mana fixing.
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2 Blood Moon
2 Anger of the Gods
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1 Harvest Pyre
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2 Steam Vents
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VoodooKick: I don't know you. I don't know what sort of MTG environment you're used to. Nothing was "vehement" or "scathing" about what I said. If you're going to state something and want it treated as fact I need more than "I beat affinity with it", that's all I asked for, and something you've still neglected to provide. It's cool. I tested soulfire myself. It's just ok. Sorry if that offends, but your pet card is just ok. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that your hygiene-centric date has buck teeth and a lazy eye. So yeah, you do need to do more that just say "X card rocks". Hyperbole isn't enough.
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Thanks!
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4 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Polluted Delta
1 Sacred Foundry
5 Snow-Covered Island
3 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Snow-Covered Plains
1 Steam Vents
2 Wooded Foothills
Instants and Sorceries
4 Serum Visions
2 Spell Snare
2 Stubborn Denial
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Skred
4 Remand
1 Harvest Pyre
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Counterflux
1 Cryptic Command
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Swans of Bryn Argoll
2 Dragonlord Ojutai
1 Wear//Tear
2 Path to Exile
1 Rending Volley
1 Spellskite
1 Celestial Purge
2 Stony Silence
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Blood Moon
1 Counterflux
1 Batterskull
1 Engineered Explosives
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match 1: 2-1 against boogles
match 2: 2-0 against burn
match 3: 0-2 UR twin - had no chance against his counterspells plus he resolved a keranos (not fun when you have swans in play)
match 4: 2-0 Grixis twin - blood moon FTW
match 5: 0-2 big - zoo Allmost had game 2 but i had a really unlucky draw.
match 6: 1-2 infect - really tough matchup
match 7: 1-1 UWR control - took way to long
After this i went home and tried to figure out what to do with the deck.
i've tried to put in a twin combo. Just to make the other guys abit afraid. and for an accidental fast win.
The deck seems good. only played 8 games with it. but i'm 7-1 (been playing in the tournament practice on modo)
1 Vendilion Clique
3 Snapcaster Mage
4 Deceiver Exarch
4 Swans of Bryn Argoll
Instant/Sorcery: 22
3 Stubborn Denial
4 Skred
4 Remand
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Cryptic Command
2 Spell Snare
1 Electrolyze
1 Anger of the Gods
1 Harvest Pyre
3 Splinter Twin
Lands: 23
1 Steam Vents
3 Wooded Foothills
3 Flooded Strand
8 Snow-Covered Island
7 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Scrying Sheets
1 Rending Volley
1 Batterskull
1 Anger of the Gods
1 Sowing Salt
1 Shatterstorm
2 Spell Pierce
1 Spellskite
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage
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2 Blood Moon
I've been looking over the lists, and i reckon, with the deck being mostly blue/red with only a couple of white cards, you could fairly easily make a switch from white to having a green splash.
The reason? Tarmogoyf. The deck's super good at grinding creature decks out, but against control and combo it lacks early pressure. Goyf gives it to you while allowing you to hold up counters. Delver would work in a similar way except it's really easy to remove.
Also hornet's nest would make a hilarious one-of
On the plus, had a fantastic game against a Tasigur Delve player. Ended up getting close to time and he had 10 life. I would die next turn to a Tasigur + Angler but he was tapped out because I had Remanded his Tasigur and he then recast it without ability to Delve. I had Swans and a Snap on the BF with a Snap, Skred, a second Swans and 2 lands in hand. I attack for 4, he takes it. I count my snow perms, I have 9. I count the cards in my library, I have 9. I skred the Swans, draw into two bolts for the win. It was fantastic and we both got a big laugh out of me winning with 0 cards left in my library. But I figure, if I was going to die next turn anyway, do it in style.
Anyway, the deck is super fun, but I might end up heading in a more casual direction. I've been eyeing Molten Vortex and might try and brew up a goofy UR deck with Swans, Treasure Hunt, Magmatic Insight, counterburn and a snow/Skred theme.
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RB Goblins
Too much card draw.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Now I know you're lying. There has never been, nor will there ever be, too much card draw (hence my modern Azami Wizard brew).
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)UB Tezzerator
UBW Gifts
B 8Rack
Legacy
RB Goblins
Isn't that pretty ehh? Even if you control into it, it's going to mostly serve as worse than any of your other bolt effects... I'd rather run main-deck Rending Volley.
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UBW Gifts
B 8Rack
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RB Goblins