use a 4 mana poor combo piece that can't be tutored and doesn't work well with bob? I don't think noble is what this deck needs.
But out of the sb: Ignorant Bliss looks like a funny way to fight target discard like thoughtseize and IoK.
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use a 4 mana poor combo piece that can't be tutored and doesn't work well with bob? I don't think noble is what this deck needs.
But out of the sb: Ignorant Bliss looks like a funny way to fight target discard like thoughtseize and IoK.
If I were to try to run this style of deck in mono-black, I'd consider the Noble and use more control/discard spells. However, I like the speed provided by red better than a control strategy...
I agree: Ignorant Bliss is an odd one, but I definitely can see the potential of having it in the board against discard heavy decks. Right now, my sb is filled with removal for lack of anything better, so this is a start...
For those of you more connected to the competitive side of Modern, what would be the biggest things to look out for or to expect to give this deck some trouble? I know certain decks have the ability to go off on turn 3 and right now, this deck doesn't have a whole lot to do about that kind of speed. It can take a Pestermite out with Lose Hope, but not the Exarch so there's that for example. Any ideas?
This is literally all I can think of, off the top of my head. Maybe artifact ramp, some wurmcoils?
You're forgetting the super obvious extra 4 copies of Lodestone Golem, Phyrexian Metamorph
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Joking aside, maybe splash black for heartless summoning for the redundancy with sculptor. Idunno. The other way would be rituals for quick thorn/golem/chalice/architect, and then try to ride out the slowdown with beats while upping the costs with metamorph and keeping combo in check with cannonist. I'm not really sure at this point. Fun idea though.
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So do I.
I already have most of the deck except the Metamorphs which I wanted to pick up for some time already anyway. Keep it coming, guys.
How artifact based do you want this to be? Before Zendikar rotated out, for one FNM I made a Stax type of deck with World Queller and had some success. That dude with Heartless Summoning might be kind of interesting.
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I actually made a Sun Titan/Queller Stax deck back in zen/som/m11 standard. It wasn't amazing. Queller is still a fun card, though. Just name basically anything but artifact.
Yeah this is what I was thinking. Obviously, I don't want to stray too far from your original idea, haha, but I think he might be something worth trying.
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So I guess what I want to know is, aside from making Lodestone Golem shine, what exactly do you want to do with this deck? I don't want to keep throwing all these Stax ideas in your face
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I'm guessing some kind of control deck? Maybe use manlands and golem as a wincon - if we're using Heartless, we're in UB, so Tar Pit is usable, though slow with Heartless out. Celestial Colonnade might be worth it. Maybe even combine the control aspect with some kind of Lux Cannon engine?
As you said, manlands would be good, but a bit slow. Celestial Colonnade would be the best, but adds another color to the mix, though it isn't impossible to use.
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Any thoughts on Trinisphere? I feel like that will slow down a lot of decks.
So one thing I just thought of... Kataki, War's Wage. What do we do about him? I know the deck we're talking about here is just barely a shell, but I see a lot of Affinity in my meta, and both my Modern decks have him in the sideboard.
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I am so much better at theoretical Magic than actual Magic.
Having other people interested in the deck is a good thing, because I am bad at this game.
I will, however, get some testing in on MWS. Can we get a name for this deck?
I suggest Pacemaker - it sets a different pace for the game, there's artifacts, and there's something about a heart.
Yes, Pacemaker will do niiicely.
Perrrrfect!!! I'm extremely excited about this. And I too am bad at Magic, so I think with us two collaborating together, we will have a super mediocre, yet fun and original deck.
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I actually had the idea for this while looking through the remnants of my old Dice Factory deck, from that short time between the release of NPH and ISD. God, that was fun.
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Academy Ruins + Counterbalance (can't decipher if the deck is in blue or not, lol)
Both seem sweet to me. I played Tezzeret AOB with a lot of Stax like properties for a bit, it was sweet.
There will be blue haha. I think Tezzeret the Seeker might be good here. Untapping a Lux Cannon for 2 charge counters or tap for a charge counter, and untap to shoot something seems good. His ultimate seems like a decent wincon as well. Blast out your opponents defenses with Lux Cannon and swing out with your Golems, 5/5 Cannonists, Mox Opal, and such.
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use a 4 mana poor combo piece that can't be tutored and doesn't work well with bob? I don't think noble is what this deck needs.
But out of the sb: Ignorant Bliss looks like a funny way to fight target discard like thoughtseize and IoK.
Ah true, didn't think of that. Sorry
My list(s) disappeared so I understand that you dont know why it is good. Too lazy to post lists and give detailed examinations but I will later. Plan on writing a primer but first I have to finish card research.
I want this deck to succeed so any help is appreciated.
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If I were to try to run this style of deck in mono-black, I'd consider the Noble and use more control/discard spells. However, I like the speed provided by red better than a control strategy...
I agree: Ignorant Bliss is an odd one, but I definitely can see the potential of having it in the board against discard heavy decks. Right now, my sb is filled with removal for lack of anything better, so this is a start...
For those of you more connected to the competitive side of Modern, what would be the biggest things to look out for or to expect to give this deck some trouble? I know certain decks have the ability to go off on turn 3 and right now, this deck doesn't have a whole lot to do about that kind of speed. It can take a Pestermite out with Lose Hope, but not the Exarch so there's that for example. Any ideas?
You're forgetting the super obvious extra 4 copies of Lodestone Golem, Phyrexian Metamorph
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Joking aside, maybe splash black for heartless summoning for the redundancy with sculptor. Idunno. The other way would be rituals for quick thorn/golem/chalice/architect, and then try to ride out the slowdown with beats while upping the costs with metamorph and keeping combo in check with cannonist. I'm not really sure at this point. Fun idea though.
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This is terrifying.
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How artifact based do you want this to be? Before Zendikar rotated out, for one FNM I made a Stax type of deck with World Queller and had some success. That dude with Heartless Summoning might be kind of interesting.
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Yeah this is what I was thinking. Obviously, I don't want to stray too far from your original idea, haha, but I think he might be something worth trying.
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Lux Cannon could be very interesting. Tezzeret's Gambit for card advantage/charging up the cannon maybe?
As you said, manlands would be good, but a bit slow. Celestial Colonnade would be the best, but adds another color to the mix, though it isn't impossible to use.
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Right! Haha. I forgot about Ethersworn Canonist.
Any thoughts on Trinisphere? I feel like that will slow down a lot of decks.
So one thing I just thought of... Kataki, War's Wage. What do we do about him? I know the deck we're talking about here is just barely a shell, but I see a lot of Affinity in my meta, and both my Modern decks have him in the sideboard.
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Very solid. When I'm out of class I'm going to sleeve something up. I'll report back as soon as I can.
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Perrrrfect!!! I'm extremely excited about this. And I too am bad at Magic, so I think with us two collaborating together, we will have a super mediocre, yet fun and original deck.
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What did that deck do/what was in it?
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Oh god hahaha
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Academy Ruins + Counterbalance (can't decipher if the deck is in blue or not, lol)
Both seem sweet to me. I played Tezzeret AOB with a lot of Stax like properties for a bit, it was sweet.
There will be blue haha. I think Tezzeret the Seeker might be good here. Untapping a Lux Cannon for 2 charge counters or tap for a charge counter, and untap to shoot something seems good. His ultimate seems like a decent wincon as well. Blast out your opponents defenses with Lux Cannon and swing out with your Golems, 5/5 Cannonists, Mox Opal, and such.
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A nice lock with Mindslaver and Academy Ruins could make for some fun times with a heavily charged Lux Cannon.
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This is looking pretty tight. Like I said when I'm out of class tonight I'll be sleeving this up and seeing how it plays.
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Hahaha noted.
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