Good evening everyone. I've recently made a very light black splash on my mono G deck. 7 fetch lands, 2 overgrown tomb and a hissing quagmire - so that I can use Abrupt Decay in the main.
Now, my question is... can people mention good black sideboard cards that can be used against the current tier 1 and tier 2 decks? Please only suggest cards with one B mana in the casting cost.. because the manabase can't handle anything with double black. Thanks.
Here's the list. It's a weird / personalized mono green stompy list with a minor black splash. It uses my spare cards that don't have a home like the one bob and 2 collar. Bringing it to FNM's for fun, when my Affinity begins to face too much hate cards.
Already content with the main deck. Only need sideaboard card suggestions.
Oh, I did not know that Collective Brutality only cost 2 mana plus discard to escalate. I appreciate the suggestion. Looks like it would be good against Burn decks.
Looking at your list, I think that Golgari Charm would be quite decent. The enchantment removal may help against prison-style decks (though not versus Ensnaring Bridge), and the regenerate clause can help versus mass-removal/wraths. For the rest, I think all above suggestions make sense.
That's some complicated math indeed.
But I appreciate the help on the mana. All the splash cards... 4 Decays and 1 bob are 2 mana. I guess it's needed to add 2 or 3 more fetch lands to make the manabase more consistent?
Pharika is not good vs jund. You pay 2 mana to make a token, they pay 1 mana for scooze to eat the card.
To the OP, if you are gonne run black cards in the sideboard you need 4 more black sources in your manabase. I sugest 1 swamp (vs blood moon) and 3 green fetchlands.
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Pharika is not good vs jund. You pay 2 mana to make a token, they pay 1 mana for scooze to eat the card.
To the OP, if you are gonne run black cards in the sideboard you need 4 more black sources in your manabase. I sugest 1 swamp (vs blood moon) and 3 green fetchlands.
OP has 10 black sources - 7 fetches that can fetch for black, 2 black shocks, and a hissing quagmire. I think you're right about the swamp though, blood moon is a hell of a thing.
Pharika is not good vs jund. You pay 2 mana to make a token, they pay 1 mana for scooze to eat the card.
To the OP, if you are gonne run black cards in the sideboard you need 4 more black sources in your manabase. I sugest 1 swamp (vs blood moon) and 3 green fetchlands.
it also works the other way around so youre point isnt very solid...
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I guess there's no harm to buy 1 Pharika from SCG. Will test the card if it's good enough when it arrives.
Already have 3 Scavenging Ooze and 4 Dryad in the main for the graveyard and snapcaster decks that roam my area. But I do plan to also try the god against decks that have board wipes.
Pharika is not good vs jund. You pay 2 mana to make a token, they pay 1 mana for scooze to eat the card.
To the OP, if you are gonne run black cards in the sideboard you need 4 more black sources in your manabase. I sugest 1 swamp (vs blood moon) and 3 green fetchlands.
Have recently added two more fetch to the list.. now have 12 black sources in the main. As for the basic swamp, I'll have to do plenty of testing for that first.. possibly adding the swamp as land number 23. Well, there is one deck that has Blood Moon sideboard in my meta.. a mono red Goblins player.. though he hasn't used the blood moon yet against my deck.
Thanks a lot to everyone who contributed ideas. Collective Brutality, Tasigur, Golgari Charm, Putrefy, and the addition of one basic swamp to the manabase improved things. Here is now what the sideboard looks like. It is tuned for my meta.
2 Collective Brutality
1 Pulse of Murasa
1 Creeping Corrosion
1 Putrefy
1 Unravel the Aether
1 Deglamer
1 Golgari Charm
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Spellskite
The additional removals helped improve the previously unwinnable Elves match up. Brutality kills an elf and discards the Coco in their hand. Golgari Charm can result in a 3 for 1. Putrefy kills any elf. And lastly, I've added a Tasigur on the main. Well, there's the very little danger that he can be drawn with Bob... but the danger is small because there's only one Tasigur and only one Bob in the deck.. and bob often dies to something as soon as he lands on the table.
With a Tasigur and 3 Scavenging Ooze in the main, it might be worth running Nihil Spellbomb as a sideboard gy hate over relic, since you can benefit from leaving your own cards in your gy. It also doesn't require black mana, but lets you cantrip if you have it. Just a thought
Oh, thanks. I haven't thought of Nihil Spellbomb as my mind was focused on others things. Will try it.
Actually, have already taken the deck to a small event. Won against Monkey Grow (2-1), lost to Grixis Shadow (1-2) and Vampires (0-2). Learned some lessons from my losses. Will create a thread for my deck at the budget modern area soon. ^^
short report, these are all from memory.
vs. Grixis Death Shadow control 1-2 lose
Game 1: an early revolted Narnam, followed by a Dryad put a lot of pressure on him. Dryad prevented his Tasigur from gaining any card advantage because the cards put in his grave are automatically exiled. He surgical extraction my bloodstained mire, only to realize that there's only one mire in the deck. Next, he surgical extraction Narnam. In return, I Abrupt Decay 2 Death Shadow. In the end he has an Angler and a Tasigur facing my board of 5 large green creatures. He concedes to lethal damage.
Game 2: it follows the same pattern as game 1. I was on my way to victory but this time got blown out by a Drown in Sorrow, killing 4 creatures including Dryad. Without Dryad, his Tasigur went nuts and gave him too much card advantage for me to overcome.
Game 3: was super grindy. My own Tasigur showed up, equipped him with a Basilisk Collar and attacked for 4, and gaining 4. However my Tasigur was killed soon. And I was without a Dryad for many turns, allowing him to gain the upper hand again with his Tasigurs - he has a playset. I played on, killing 3 tasigur with Maelstrom Pulse, Hissing Quagmire, Narnam Renegade, but was not able to draw a creature in time to save my life from the last Tasigur. Looked on top of my deck after the game, and Dungrove Elder was there.. if only I had one more turn.
vs. GUR Tempo it has Tarmogoyf, Hooting Mandrills and plenty of counter spells. 2-1 Win
Game 1: Stompy does it's thing. Narnam Renegade, Dryad, and Avatar backed up by 2 Inquisition of Kozilek for his counterspells are all too much for him. Dryad slows down his delving with Hooting Mandrills. I killed Tarmo with something, killed his mandrills with Hissing Quagmire, and Avatar goes in for the win.
Game 2: I was blown out by his sideboard Sword of Feast and Famine.
Game 3: was super grindy. I put early pressure again backed up with discard. Really loving Dryad Millitant. For some reason, maybe due to the heat of the room or the pressure, he blocks a 2/3 renegade with a 4/5 tarmo, killing both creatures. Basilisk collar and rancor team up well. The grind continued, decayed his sword, and finally it's his 5/6 tarmogoyf and a mandrills dancing with my 8/8 Dungrove Elder, 7/7 Scavenging Ooze, and 3/2 Dryad.. the dryad got +1/+1 from Oran Rief. Ooze ate both graveyards until only thing remains are lands, with his tarmo a 1/2. He still stubbornly kept blocking, but conceded after being going down to 1 life against my board of giant green monsters. Told me that elder gave him a rough time.
vs RB Homebrew Vampires??? 0-2 Lose
Game 1: my creaures are winning but then he casts Vampire Nocturnus and killed me in 2 turns
Game 2: dismembered nocturnus and eat a bloodghast with scavenging ooze. However more Nocturnus showed up, Kolaghans Command on my basilisk collar, and Stromkirk Noble whose first strike gave his vampires too much advantage. I will be better prepared for this weird deck next time we meet.
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Cards that performed well:
Dryad Millitant - on my delve meta, this girl is priceless. Would always play 4.
Avatar of the Resolute - a reliable beater
Hissing Quagmire - I have new respect for this land. It seems slow, but the deathtouch makes large creatures afraid to block it.
Narnam Renegade - a solid 2/3 beater on turn 1, and even as a 1/2 he scares tasigurs and tarmogoyfs with his prickly stick!
Abrupt Decay - takes out pesky artifacts. Can't be countered made fighting the GUR tempo a lot easier.
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Card that will be taken out:
Contagion Clasp - with no infect or elves in sight, this little artifact is too underpowered for my meta of giant creatures
Dungrove - the old tree did well. However, due to the meta.. I might swap him out for another Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.. to help with blocking against Death Shadow, as most Death Shadow decks in my area don't use Temur Rage.
Oran-Rief, the vastwood - it mana screwed me one game, but helped me get the upper hand in another... thinking of replacing it with a another quagmire.
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My list. Nissa Vital Force is not supposed to be there, only used today because the card that was suppossed to be in her spot is still in the mail. Have also sold my verdant catacombs playset to buy some khans fetches, so I had no choice except to use khans fetches on Sunday Night Magic.
Now, my question is... can people mention good black sideboard cards that can be used against the current tier 1 and tier 2 decks? Please only suggest cards with one B mana in the casting cost.. because the manabase can't handle anything with double black. Thanks.
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Already content with the main deck. Only need sideaboard card suggestions.
4 Avatar of the Resolute
4 StrangleRoot Geist
1 Dark Confidant
1 Ulvenwald Tracker
2 Dungrove Elder
4 Dryad Millitant
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Dismember
2 Vines of Vastwood
2 Basilisk Collar
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Wooded Foothills
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Hissing Quagmire
1 Treeetop Village
1 Oran-Rief, The Vastwood
10 Forest
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Nihil Spellbomb against GY's (one-sided Relic of Progenitus).
Vampiric Link against Burn.
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Tasigur, the Golden Fang is only B and his ability works with Green.
Aside from that all the useful spells have been suggested.
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That's some complicated math indeed.
But I appreciate the help on the mana. All the splash cards... 4 Decays and 1 bob are 2 mana. I guess it's needed to add 2 or 3 more fetch lands to make the manabase more consistent?
Thanks. Tasigur seems useful. Will try to test him as a one-of in the sideboard if I could get a copy.
Oh, and will also remember Putrefy. I guess it could also kill manlands because of the instant speed.
EDIT: 1 Tasigur and 1 Golgari Charm added to my SCG shopping cart
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JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
i mean who doesnt like getting a 1/1 deathtouch to block a huge goyf
with all the green in your deck i guess reaching 7 devotion must not be that hard too, lmk if you tried it.
edit: everything else i can think of has been mention above...
edit #2: you might wanna consider urborg, tomb of yawgmoth as a one of at least
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To the OP, if you are gonne run black cards in the sideboard you need 4 more black sources in your manabase. I sugest 1 swamp (vs blood moon) and 3 green fetchlands.
OP has 10 black sources - 7 fetches that can fetch for black, 2 black shocks, and a hissing quagmire. I think you're right about the swamp though, blood moon is a hell of a thing.
it also works the other way around so youre point isnt very solid...
top 5 anime of all time (tv, not books because dragon ball would be first)
1. Sword art online 2. Fairy tail 3. Naruto(shipuden) 4. Bleach 5. Claymore
I guess there's no harm to buy 1 Pharika from SCG. Will test the card if it's good enough when it arrives.
Already have 3 Scavenging Ooze and 4 Dryad in the main for the graveyard and snapcaster decks that roam my area. But I do plan to also try the god against decks that have board wipes.
Have recently added two more fetch to the list.. now have 12 black sources in the main. As for the basic swamp, I'll have to do plenty of testing for that first.. possibly adding the swamp as land number 23. Well, there is one deck that has Blood Moon sideboard in my meta.. a mono red Goblins player.. though he hasn't used the blood moon yet against my deck.
4 Avatar of the Resolute
4 StrangleRoot Geist
1 Dark Confidant
1 Ulvenwald Tracker
2 Dungrove Elder
4 Dryad Millitant
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Dismember
2 Vines of Vastwood
2 Basilisk Collar
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Windswept Heath
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Hissing Quagmire
1 Treeetop Village
1 Oran-Rief, The Vastwood
8 Forest
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2 Collective Brutality
1 Pulse of Murasa
1 Creeping Corrosion
1 Putrefy
1 Unravel the Aether
1 Deglamer
1 Golgari Charm
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Spellskite
The additional removals helped improve the previously unwinnable Elves match up. Brutality kills an elf and discards the Coco in their hand. Golgari Charm can result in a 3 for 1. Putrefy kills any elf. And lastly, I've added a Tasigur on the main. Well, there's the very little danger that he can be drawn with Bob... but the danger is small because there's only one Tasigur and only one Bob in the deck.. and bob often dies to something as soon as he lands on the table.
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Actually, have already taken the deck to a small event. Won against Monkey Grow (2-1), lost to Grixis Shadow (1-2) and Vampires (0-2). Learned some lessons from my losses. Will create a thread for my deck at the budget modern area soon. ^^
short report, these are all from memory.
vs. Grixis Death Shadow control 1-2 lose
Game 1: an early revolted Narnam, followed by a Dryad put a lot of pressure on him. Dryad prevented his Tasigur from gaining any card advantage because the cards put in his grave are automatically exiled. He surgical extraction my bloodstained mire, only to realize that there's only one mire in the deck. Next, he surgical extraction Narnam. In return, I Abrupt Decay 2 Death Shadow. In the end he has an Angler and a Tasigur facing my board of 5 large green creatures. He concedes to lethal damage.
Game 2: it follows the same pattern as game 1. I was on my way to victory but this time got blown out by a Drown in Sorrow, killing 4 creatures including Dryad. Without Dryad, his Tasigur went nuts and gave him too much card advantage for me to overcome.
Game 3: was super grindy. My own Tasigur showed up, equipped him with a Basilisk Collar and attacked for 4, and gaining 4. However my Tasigur was killed soon. And I was without a Dryad for many turns, allowing him to gain the upper hand again with his Tasigurs - he has a playset. I played on, killing 3 tasigur with Maelstrom Pulse, Hissing Quagmire, Narnam Renegade, but was not able to draw a creature in time to save my life from the last Tasigur. Looked on top of my deck after the game, and Dungrove Elder was there.. if only I had one more turn.
vs. GUR Tempo it has Tarmogoyf, Hooting Mandrills and plenty of counter spells. 2-1 Win
Game 1: Stompy does it's thing. Narnam Renegade, Dryad, and Avatar backed up by 2 Inquisition of Kozilek for his counterspells are all too much for him. Dryad slows down his delving with Hooting Mandrills. I killed Tarmo with something, killed his mandrills with Hissing Quagmire, and Avatar goes in for the win.
Game 2: I was blown out by his sideboard Sword of Feast and Famine.
Game 3: was super grindy. I put early pressure again backed up with discard. Really loving Dryad Millitant. For some reason, maybe due to the heat of the room or the pressure, he blocks a 2/3 renegade with a 4/5 tarmo, killing both creatures. Basilisk collar and rancor team up well. The grind continued, decayed his sword, and finally it's his 5/6 tarmogoyf and a mandrills dancing with my 8/8 Dungrove Elder, 7/7 Scavenging Ooze, and 3/2 Dryad.. the dryad got +1/+1 from Oran Rief. Ooze ate both graveyards until only thing remains are lands, with his tarmo a 1/2. He still stubbornly kept blocking, but conceded after being going down to 1 life against my board of giant green monsters. Told me that elder gave him a rough time.
vs RB Homebrew Vampires??? 0-2 Lose
Game 1: my creaures are winning but then he casts Vampire Nocturnus and killed me in 2 turns
Game 2: dismembered nocturnus and eat a bloodghast with scavenging ooze. However more Nocturnus showed up, Kolaghans Command on my basilisk collar, and Stromkirk Noble whose first strike gave his vampires too much advantage. I will be better prepared for this weird deck next time we meet.
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Cards that performed well:
Dryad Millitant - on my delve meta, this girl is priceless. Would always play 4.
Avatar of the Resolute - a reliable beater
Hissing Quagmire - I have new respect for this land. It seems slow, but the deathtouch makes large creatures afraid to block it.
Narnam Renegade - a solid 2/3 beater on turn 1, and even as a 1/2 he scares tasigurs and tarmogoyfs with his prickly stick!
Abrupt Decay - takes out pesky artifacts. Can't be countered made fighting the GUR tempo a lot easier.
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Card that will be taken out:
Contagion Clasp - with no infect or elves in sight, this little artifact is too underpowered for my meta of giant creatures
Dungrove - the old tree did well. However, due to the meta.. I might swap him out for another Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.. to help with blocking against Death Shadow, as most Death Shadow decks in my area don't use Temur Rage.
Oran-Rief, the vastwood - it mana screwed me one game, but helped me get the upper hand in another... thinking of replacing it with a another quagmire.
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My list. Nissa Vital Force is not supposed to be there, only used today because the card that was suppossed to be in her spot is still in the mail. Have also sold my verdant catacombs playset to buy some khans fetches, so I had no choice except to use khans fetches on Sunday Night Magic.
4 Narnam Renegade
4 Dryad Millitant
4 Avatar of the Resolute
4 Strangleroot Geist
3 Scavenging Ooze
1 Dungrove Elder
1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
16 (other spells)
4 Rancor
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Dismember
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Basilisk Collar
1 Contagion Clasp
1 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
1 Nissa, Vital Force
8 Forest
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Swamp
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Windswept Heath
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Hissing Quagmire
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
15 (Sideboard)
4 Duress
1 Deglamer
1 Unravel the Aether
1 Creeping Corrosion
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Putrefy
1 Golgari Charm
1 Spellskite
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Grafdigger Cage
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
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