MTG Salvation

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpgua16
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplil16
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpind16

Only Indy will receive video coverage. https://www.twitch.tv/channelfireball

GPT winners
Guangzhou
Indianapolis

Day 2 Metagame
Guangzhou
Lille
Indianapolis

Was about to make the thread myself :). I guess all the users in the American continent were asleep when everything was kicking off over here.

Looking forward to some great games, fringe decks seeing coverage and some new favourites emerging.

Hoping eldritch evolution sees some play. That'd be fun to watch.

Some players who made Day 2 at Guangzhou

1 Tamada 27 Jeskai Thing/PA
2 Lim 27 Suicide Zoo
3 Jia 27 Naya Burn
4 Yamamoto 24 Grixis Goryo's
5 Guo 24 Storm
6 Shimada 24 Ad Nauseam
9 Wang 24 RG Breach w/ Emrakul
11 Noine 24 Ad Nauseam
20 Chew 24 Bant Company (?)
29 Wu 24 Nacatl Burn
30 Xiao 24 RG Tron
34 Zhuang 22 UW Control
45 Chia 21 Affinity
60 Chung 21 GW Tron
61 Zheng 21 Suicide Zoo
73 Wen 21 Bant Eldrazi
176 Wang 18 Infect
177 Ishii 18 Eggs
182 Zhang 18 Bant Eldrazi
203 Zhou 18 Bant Eldrazi
205 Lee 18 Dredge
217 Chew 18 Bushwhacker Zoo
231 Yan 18 Naya Burn

Round 2 Indianapolis is pretty fun to watch so far. Infect wins against Abzan game 1 with Inkmoth Nexus through Inquisition, double Path, and Ghost Quarter. Then game 2, Abzan wins on the back of triple Fulimator Mage and a timely top-decked Inquisition, taking away a lethal attack on the untap. On to game 3!

Edit: and Might of old Krosa wins the top deck war.

Jeskai Thing gets the thumbs up from me. 9-0

RIP Amulet. Suicide Zoo just doing it's thing.

who's on charge of putting lantern on camara? omg... 0 marketing skills

i like the deck too, but looking at coverage as an entertainment, seems a little strange

Coverage is really underscoring the need for more generic answers. It feela more and more that there are just so many proactive angles of attack in this format and not enough ways to reliably handle them.

I enjoyed watching it as well. It actually made me regret (again) selling 3 of my Ensnaring Bridges to a friend. I just messaged him if I could borrow them since Lantern actually seems good in my LGS meta.

I would've rather had an actual game than
>is there something relevant on the opponent's top?
>yes? mill it, go back to the beginning
>no? untap, play stuff that doesn't actually advance the game state, and go back to the beginning

I'd rather watch Eggs go off.

Did the Elves player start the game with 8 cards in hand? I thought my eyes were not working properly until LSV seemed to have noticed the same thing.

Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.

EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.

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Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.

EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.

I intend to gather a lot of LSV's points but you make a point in LSV's points just being clickbaity. Why do you say so? ( not irony, just question to see where you stand)

Wizards isn't going to remove THREE SETS from Modern. Can you even imagine the outcry? It would just be so antithetical to the format, a point one of the two even acknowledged (I think it was LSV talking about nonrotating formats and this being an effective rotation). It's also particularly stupid because Blood Moon, one of the cards they were talking about removing, is in Modern Masters! I'd much rather they use their platform to talk about meaningful issues that Wizards could act on. Something like getting generic answers in Modern. Or debating a card like SFM. Those conversations would be much more relevant and interesting.

Decks seen so far:

Junk
Combo Elves
Suicide Zoo
Amulet Bloom
Lantern Control
Jeskai Nahiri
Affinity
Jund
Bant Eldrazi

I missed the elves player drawing 8 cards. Was it accidental or was he trying to conceal it?

And I also missed any repercussions. Did the player receive a game loss?

Why does LSV hate Tron so much? Or was that just a joke?

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Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.

EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.

I intend to gather a lot of LSV's points but you make a point in LSV's points just being clickbaity. Why do you say so? ( not irony, just question to see where you stand)

Wizards isn't going to remove THREE SETS from Modern. Can you even imagine the outcry? It would just be so antithetical to the format, a point one of the two even acknowledged (I think it was LSV talking about nonrotating formats and this being an effective rotation). It's also particularly stupid because Blood Moon, one of the cards they were talking about removing, is in Modern Masters! I'd much rather they use their platform to talk about meaningful issues that Wizards could act on. Something like getting generic answers in Modern. Or debating a card like SFM. Those conversations would be much more relevant and interesting.

I agree. I'd suggest contacting ChannelFireball or LSV with your concerns on this. They do seem to listen to feedback on their coverage.

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Why does LSV hate Tron so much? Or was that just a joke?

I have heard him one more time implying this is a mistake for a format like Modern. I believe it is too much of a ramp than a fair deck can take in a format like Modern.

...which is why Jund is the most played deck.

Merfolk, Zoo, Eldrazi, and Jeskai Control are in the top 10 decks as well on Modern Nexus, all of them fair decks (don't try to argue Nahiri's ultimate is "unfair," it's no more "unfair" than any powerful planeswalker ultimate). Affinity and Infect are more arguable. But even if we count the 'arguable' ones as unfair, we still have half of the top 10 decks being fair. So much for fair decks being unable to exist in Modern thanks to Tron!

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I agree with LSV on Tron, it's almost impossible to beat it with fair deck like Jund when they got tron online.

Btw plenty of Abzan decks there which I didn't expect.

Who cares if it's hard to beat? The deck isn't even good right now and has plenty of weaknesses. Decks aren't banned because they beat up your pet deck. They are banned because they are format problems and Tron doesn't remotely qualify right now. Going after Tron is just going after a symptom of the problem: the lack of Modern generic answers. Banning a dozen linear cards is just a temporary solution that angers a lot of players, one that only lasts until the next broken thing happens.

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I agree with LSV on Tron, it's almost impossible to beat it with fair deck like Jund when they got tron online.

FAIR DECKS LIKE JUND HAVE A BAD MATCHUP! THIS IS UNFORGIVABLE! BAN IT!!!!!!!

...that is not a particularly good argument.

Ad Nauseam being 6th and 11th at GP Guangzhou for day 2? Fingers crossed they don't meet BG/x and Infect during the 6 last rounds!!!

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I agree with LSV on Tron, it's almost impossible to beat it with fair deck like Jund when they got tron online.

Btw plenty of Abzan decks there which I didn't expect.

Who cares if it's hard to beat? The deck isn't even good right now and has plenty of weaknesses. Decks aren't banned because they beat up your pet deck. They are banned because they are format problems and Tron doesn't remotely qualify right now. Going after Tron is just going after a symptom of the problem: the lack of Modern generic answers. Banning a dozen linear cards is just a temporary solution that angers a lot of players, one that only lasts until the next broken thing happens.

For some reason Tron is always the scapegoat for there not being enough fair interactive decks in Modern. When Amulet Bloom was the real problem, people still blamed Tron. When the lack of a decent URx shell was the problem (before Nahiri was printed and after Twin was banned) people still blamed Tron. And now that Eldrazi and Dredge are the real problem if there is one, what do you know, people still blame Tron!

Yes, Tron destroys fair decks, but has never been prevalent enough in the metagame for it to be oppressive to those decks.

Jund loses to RG Ponza in horrible misplay: dropping Flayer when Goyf could have easily gotten there alone. Don't play to an opponent's outs!

Wafo-Tapa running sweet Esper Control for 7-2 at GP Lille