Round 2 Indianapolis is pretty fun to watch so far. Infect wins against Abzan game 1 with Inkmoth Nexus through Inquisition, double Path, and Ghost Quarter. Then game 2, Abzan wins on the back of triple Fulimator Mage and a timely top-decked Inquisition, taking away a lethal attack on the untap. On to game 3!
Edit: and Might of old Krosa wins the top deck war.
Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Coverage is really underscoring the need for more generic answers. It feela more and more that there are just so many proactive angles of attack in this format and not enough ways to reliably handle them.
I enjoyed watching it as well. It actually made me regret (again) selling 3 of my Ensnaring Bridges to a friend. I just messaged him if I could borrow them since Lantern actually seems good in my LGS meta.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I would've rather had an actual game than
>is there something relevant on the opponent's top?
>yes? mill it, go back to the beginning
>no? untap, play stuff that doesn't actually advance the game state, and go back to the beginning
Did the Elves player start the game with 8 cards in hand? I thought my eyes were not working properly until LSV seemed to have noticed the same thing.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.
EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.
Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.
EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.
I intend to gather a lot of LSV's points but you make a point in LSV's points just being clickbaity. Why do you say so? ( not irony, just question to see where you stand)
Wizards isn't going to remove THREE SETS from Modern. Can you even imagine the outcry? It would just be so antithetical to the format, a point one of the two even acknowledged (I think it was LSV talking about nonrotating formats and this being an effective rotation). It's also particularly stupid because Blood Moon, one of the cards they were talking about removing, is in Modern Masters! I'd much rather they use their platform to talk about meaningful issues that Wizards could act on. Something like getting generic answers in Modern. Or debating a card like SFM. Those conversations would be much more relevant and interesting.
Dear lord. I tune into coverage and, lo and behold, it's this tired old fact or fiction again. We've even added 10th Edition now! I'm really sick of these clickbaity and uncritical features. There are some really legitimate policy questions to discuss with regard to Modern. Removing three sets (it just sounds ridiculous) is not one of those.
EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.
I intend to gather a lot of LSV's points but you make a point in LSV's points just being clickbaity. Why do you say so? ( not irony, just question to see where you stand)
Wizards isn't going to remove THREE SETS from Modern. Can you even imagine the outcry? It would just be so antithetical to the format, a point one of the two even acknowledged (I think it was LSV talking about nonrotating formats and this being an effective rotation). It's also particularly stupid because Blood Moon, one of the cards they were talking about removing, is in Modern Masters! I'd much rather they use their platform to talk about meaningful issues that Wizards could act on. Something like getting generic answers in Modern. Or debating a card like SFM. Those conversations would be much more relevant and interesting.
I agree. I'd suggest contacting ChannelFireball or LSV with your concerns on this. They do seem to listen to feedback on their coverage.
Why does LSV hate Tron so much? Or was that just a joke?
I have heard him one more time implying this is a mistake for a format like Modern. I believe it is too much of a ramp than a fair deck can take in a format like Modern.
...which is why Jund is the most played deck.
Merfolk, Zoo, Eldrazi, and Jeskai Control are in the top 10 decks as well on Modern Nexus, all of them fair decks (don't try to argue Nahiri's ultimate is "unfair," it's no more "unfair" than any powerful planeswalker ultimate). Affinity and Infect are more arguable. But even if we count the 'arguable' ones as unfair, we still have half of the top 10 decks being fair. So much for fair decks being unable to exist in Modern thanks to Tron!
I agree with LSV on Tron, it's almost impossible to beat it with fair deck like Jund when they got tron online.
Btw plenty of Abzan decks there which I didn't expect.
Who cares if it's hard to beat? The deck isn't even good right now and has plenty of weaknesses. Decks aren't banned because they beat up your pet deck. They are banned because they are format problems and Tron doesn't remotely qualify right now. Going after Tron is just going after a symptom of the problem: the lack of Modern generic answers. Banning a dozen linear cards is just a temporary solution that angers a lot of players, one that only lasts until the next broken thing happens.
I agree with LSV on Tron, it's almost impossible to beat it with fair deck like Jund when they got tron online.
Btw plenty of Abzan decks there which I didn't expect.
Who cares if it's hard to beat? The deck isn't even good right now and has plenty of weaknesses. Decks aren't banned because they beat up your pet deck. They are banned because they are format problems and Tron doesn't remotely qualify right now. Going after Tron is just going after a symptom of the problem: the lack of Modern generic answers. Banning a dozen linear cards is just a temporary solution that angers a lot of players, one that only lasts until the next broken thing happens.
For some reason Tron is always the scapegoat for there not being enough fair interactive decks in Modern. When Amulet Bloom was the real problem, people still blamed Tron. When the lack of a decent URx shell was the problem (before Nahiri was printed and after Twin was banned) people still blamed Tron. And now that Eldrazi and Dredge are the real problem if there is one, what do you know, people still blame Tron!
Yes, Tron destroys fair decks, but has never been prevalent enough in the metagame for it to be oppressive to those decks.
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Current Legacy decks BUG Shardless BUG / UWR Predict Miracles / RUG Canadian Thresh / WRBG 4c Loam UB Reanimator
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Only Indy will receive video coverage. https://www.twitch.tv/channelfireball
GPT winners
Guangzhou
Indianapolis
Day 2 Metagame
Guangzhou
Lille
Indianapolis
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Big Johnny.
Looking forward to some great games, fringe decks seeing coverage and some new favourites emerging.
Hoping eldritch evolution sees some play. That'd be fun to watch.
1 Tamada 27 Jeskai Thing/PA
2 Lim 27 Suicide Zoo
3 Jia 27 Naya Burn
4 Yamamoto 24 Grixis Goryo's
5 Guo 24 Storm
6 Shimada 24 Ad Nauseam
9 Wang 24 RG Breach w/ Emrakul
11 Noine 24 Ad Nauseam
20 Chew 24 Bant Company (?)
29 Wu 24 Nacatl Burn
30 Xiao 24 RG Tron
34 Zhuang 22 UW Control
45 Chia 21 Affinity
60 Chung 21 GW Tron
61 Zheng 21 Suicide Zoo
73 Wen 21 Bant Eldrazi
176 Wang 18 Infect
177 Ishii 18 Eggs
182 Zhang 18 Bant Eldrazi
203 Zhou 18 Bant Eldrazi
205 Lee 18 Dredge
217 Chew 18 Bushwhacker Zoo
231 Yan 18 Naya Burn
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Big Johnny.
Edit: and Might of old Krosa wins the top deck war.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)URW Control
WBG Abzan
GRW Burn
EDH
GR Rosheen Meanderer
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)>is there something relevant on the opponent's top?
>yes? mill it, go back to the beginning
>no? untap, play stuff that doesn't actually advance the game state, and go back to the beginning
I'd rather watch Eggs go off.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)EDIT: A much more interesting discussion would be Andrea Mengucci going Abzan instead of Jund.
Wizards isn't going to remove THREE SETS from Modern. Can you even imagine the outcry? It would just be so antithetical to the format, a point one of the two even acknowledged (I think it was LSV talking about nonrotating formats and this being an effective rotation). It's also particularly stupid because Blood Moon, one of the cards they were talking about removing, is in Modern Masters! I'd much rather they use their platform to talk about meaningful issues that Wizards could act on. Something like getting generic answers in Modern. Or debating a card like SFM. Those conversations would be much more relevant and interesting.
Junk
Combo Elves
Suicide Zoo
Amulet Bloom
Lantern Control
Jeskai Nahiri
Affinity
Jund
Bant Eldrazi
My H/W list
And I also missed any repercussions. Did the player receive a game loss?
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
...which is why Jund is the most played deck.
Merfolk, Zoo, Eldrazi, and Jeskai Control are in the top 10 decks as well on Modern Nexus, all of them fair decks (don't try to argue Nahiri's ultimate is "unfair," it's no more "unfair" than any powerful planeswalker ultimate). Affinity and Infect are more arguable. But even if we count the 'arguable' ones as unfair, we still have half of the top 10 decks being fair. So much for fair decks being unable to exist in Modern thanks to Tron!
Who cares if it's hard to beat? The deck isn't even good right now and has plenty of weaknesses. Decks aren't banned because they beat up your pet deck. They are banned because they are format problems and Tron doesn't remotely qualify right now. Going after Tron is just going after a symptom of the problem: the lack of Modern generic answers. Banning a dozen linear cards is just a temporary solution that angers a lot of players, one that only lasts until the next broken thing happens.
...that is not a particularly good argument.
Aggro: Naya Burn RWG
Combo: Scapeshift RG
Control: Jeskai Control UWR
Legacy
Control: Miracles UW
Aggro: Burn R
For some reason Tron is always the scapegoat for there not being enough fair interactive decks in Modern. When Amulet Bloom was the real problem, people still blamed Tron. When the lack of a decent URx shell was the problem (before Nahiri was printed and after Twin was banned) people still blamed Tron. And now that Eldrazi and Dredge are the real problem if there is one, what do you know, people still blame Tron!
Yes, Tron destroys fair decks, but has never been prevalent enough in the metagame for it to be oppressive to those decks.
BGW Junk / URB Grixis Shadow / RGB Lantern Control / WUBCBant Eldrazi
Current Legacy decks
BUG Shardless BUG / UWR Predict Miracles / RUG Canadian Thresh / WRBG 4c Loam
UB Reanimator