While I am a Grixis Delver Player and other than Overturf and Jones' recent top 8s, it's waning in play recently(which the deck has a history of doing, going in and out of favor) but I must say Modern is the healthiest it's been in well...ever really. No deck is above 10% and Jund still has plenty of bad matchups(though with good stuff dekcs, do you ever really drop below 40%?
But, no format is perfect and I wanted to open a discussion of any cards you feel deserve to be banned and why.
I'll give 2(one I could see and one I doubt we'll see banned)
1. Delver was amazing with treasure cruise. I really wish I played the deck when it was legal. But Cruise and Dig got banned. But another draw spell is IMO ever more powerful yet I here no complaints. Ancient Stirrings is Cruise on Steroids. Can be cast T 1 and find any card you need in the right deck. It is my opinion if cruise(or a better analog would be dig through time) deserves the ban hammer, so does ancient stirrings.
2. A card I personally despise but I don't ever see being banned is Path to Exile. What is the removal color in magic....if you answered black, you clearly haven't played Modern recently(or standard...looking at you dec in stone). White should NEVER have the most powerful removal spell and yet it does in all formats(swords, path, and dec in stone). For the uber low cost of 1 white mana, you can exile any creature that can be targeted. I don't care how many lands it gives, that effect is simply too powerful for one mana...and instant speed...and the land doesn't even come into play untapped.
Honorable mention is Eldrazi Temple. IMO they banned the wrong land. If Temple was legendary, I'd be fine with it...wait, wasn't there another eldrazi land that was legendary that prevented it's abuse. What other class of creatures get's to make 2 mana for it. Where are the vampire lands that make double black. Werewolf lands with double red. Merfolk lands with double blue. Human lands with double white. Oh those would be too powerful but Eldrazi temple producing 2 mana is okie dokie. The reason this is an honorable mention is because I have a living, breathing hatred for all things eldrazi and that may be coloring my opinion.
So I ask you: What card would you like to see banned and what card do you feel should be banned?
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I'm just curious. How come you didn't feel the giant official pinned thread with over 1k posts, named "Current Modern Banlist Discussion" was adequate for discussing the modern banlist?
1. Stirrings is more powerful than cruise? hahaha, no. Stirrings isn't even as much a draw spell as it is a cc-fixer. I would say this is even more of your eldrazi-hatred seeping through.
2. Do you have any reasoning behind WHY white shouldn't have those removal spell? Or is it just a personal opinion that they shouldn't? It is kinda like arguing that blue shouldn't have the most powerful creatures in any format but then again delver and TNN are legal in their respective formats. You may not care how many land it gives. But most of the time the opponent does. Giving an opponent ramp and colourfixing for one of their creatures is not a small irrelevant drawback.
Are you even aware how coloured mana works? comparing a land produc2ing double colourless with one producing double blue etc. is just silly. Your living breathing hatred for all things eldrazi" has coloured your opinjion and arguing over a banlist with however you happen to feel about cards is not the greatest starting point. Put forth argument as to WHY the temple is broken and should be banned rather than just spewing out your hatred through your keyboard.
As it is atm you are just making an unproven statement about other versions of the land and then basing your argument on that. It is pretty much arguing that bananas should be more expensive because apples are expensive and tastes great.
You have no support for your claim that the apples taste great (the other landversions would be broken) and you have failed to correlate that with why bananas should cost more (ban eldrazi temple)
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But, no format is perfect and I wanted to open a discussion of any cards you feel deserve to be banned and why.
I'll give 2(one I could see and one I doubt we'll see banned)
1. Delver was amazing with treasure cruise. I really wish I played the deck when it was legal. But Cruise and Dig got banned. But another draw spell is IMO ever more powerful yet I here no complaints. Ancient Stirrings is Cruise on Steroids. Can be cast T 1 and find any card you need in the right deck. It is my opinion if cruise(or a better analog would be dig through time) deserves the ban hammer, so does ancient stirrings.
2. A card I personally despise but I don't ever see being banned is Path to Exile. What is the removal color in magic....if you answered black, you clearly haven't played Modern recently(or standard...looking at you dec in stone). White should NEVER have the most powerful removal spell and yet it does in all formats(swords, path, and dec in stone). For the uber low cost of 1 white mana, you can exile any creature that can be targeted. I don't care how many lands it gives, that effect is simply too powerful for one mana...and instant speed...and the land doesn't even come into play untapped.
Honorable mention is Eldrazi Temple. IMO they banned the wrong land. If Temple was legendary, I'd be fine with it...wait, wasn't there another eldrazi land that was legendary that prevented it's abuse. What other class of creatures get's to make 2 mana for it. Where are the vampire lands that make double black. Werewolf lands with double red. Merfolk lands with double blue. Human lands with double white. Oh those would be too powerful but Eldrazi temple producing 2 mana is okie dokie. The reason this is an honorable mention is because I have a living, breathing hatred for all things eldrazi and that may be coloring my opinion.
So I ask you: What card would you like to see banned and what card do you feel should be banned?
1. Stirrings is more powerful than cruise? hahaha, no. Stirrings isn't even as much a draw spell as it is a cc-fixer. I would say this is even more of your eldrazi-hatred seeping through.
2. Do you have any reasoning behind WHY white shouldn't have those removal spell? Or is it just a personal opinion that they shouldn't? It is kinda like arguing that blue shouldn't have the most powerful creatures in any format but then again delver and TNN are legal in their respective formats. You may not care how many land it gives. But most of the time the opponent does. Giving an opponent ramp and colourfixing for one of their creatures is not a small irrelevant drawback.
Are you even aware how coloured mana works? comparing a land produc2ing double colourless with one producing double blue etc. is just silly. Your living breathing hatred for all things eldrazi" has coloured your opinjion and arguing over a banlist with however you happen to feel about cards is not the greatest starting point. Put forth argument as to WHY the temple is broken and should be banned rather than just spewing out your hatred through your keyboard.
As it is atm you are just making an unproven statement about other versions of the land and then basing your argument on that. It is pretty much arguing that bananas should be more expensive because apples are expensive and tastes great.
You have no support for your claim that the apples taste great (the other landversions would be broken) and you have failed to correlate that with why bananas should cost more (ban eldrazi temple)
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