What are peoples thoughts on this card in sideboards of BGX midrange decks? I have seen this card pop up in sideboards and I want to see what people's opinions are on it and what matchups it is brought in.
First off, it is 5 mana which is a lot. However, shrinking opposing creatures in the mirror seem good. But, it seems super slow against aggressive decks that play X/1s. That being said, seems great against Thopter combo, abza company, hate bears, but then it seems horrible against affinity, merfolk, elves (too slow and they have all the lords) etc. Aka, this card seems very matchup specific since it isnt a catch all. Thoughts on it in the new meta?
I knew it used to be a situational lock against twin variants because it invalidated Pestermite, Deceiver Exarch.
I don't see it being super useful in many areas anymore since it costs so much. If you want to hose token strategies then Virulent Plague seems like a better option.
In this metagame I think the sideboard slot is better used elsewhere.
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If you want that effect, only go with Curse of Death's Hold if your deck dies to the effect as well. Or if you're in for cute jank and hate fun and combine it with Godhead of Awe in an Esper Control shell or so. ^^;
Else, slam Night of Souls' Betrayal.
1 mana less is a HUGE deal and makes it still quite good against Elves and Affinity, if combined with a board wipe and other removal.
Against Hatebears and Death and Taxes 5 mana can soon be 6 or 7 mana and -1/-1 shuts down so many of their pieces that getting it out earlier and reliably is quite important.
Even with Twin no longer being a thing, having the effect t4 not t5+ (5 mana is not just 1 mana more than 4, it can often be 1-3 mana more, which is a LOT) is a lot better.
If you have some Damnation in your list it becomes a lot better even, as you can drop it after one and more or less shut down Bogles.
Similarly, if you survive till turn 4 and play this against Infect, it's basically gg.
So, it does shut down, or at least severely impede a lot of decks actually:
Infect, Bogles (sometimes), Thopters, Abzan Company (can still Angel Feeder and Melira combo with a bit of setup), Hatebears, DnT, Affinity, and some random jank.
That being said, often you want a sweeper of sorts to come with it, as many of those decks can set up their board to play around the effect.
Once it's down it usually just locks them out though, so 1 or 2 in the sideboard can be quite nice.
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Jund runs curse frequently. Night of souls' betrayal is similar. It depends on your meta. Lots of soul sisters or token? Run them. If thopters or tokens is the main concern something like illness in the ranks is a cheap answer.
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It is a great card (well the best effect really) but if you are playing in a meta that doesn't expect midrange vs. Midrange a lot then Night of Souls' Betrayal is a lot better. The mana less is a big deal vs fast decks like Company, Elves, Affinity, etc... And your Giyf really doesn't care if it's a 3/4 or 4/5 anyways, it's still larger than all of their threats. I'd recommend Night over Curse, and then move to the Curse if you start facing lots of midrange.
What are peoples thoughts on this card in sideboards of BGX midrange decks? I have seen this card pop up in sideboards and I want to see what people's opinions are on it and what matchups it is brought in.
First off, it is 5 mana which is a lot. However, shrinking opposing creatures in the mirror seem good. But, it seems super slow against aggressive decks that play X/1s. That being said, seems great against Thopter combo, abza company, hate bears, but then it seems horrible against affinity, merfolk, elves (too slow and they have all the lords) etc. Aka, this card seems very matchup specific since it isnt a catch all. Thoughts on it in the new meta?
I don't see it being super useful in many areas anymore since it costs so much. If you want to hose token strategies then Virulent Plague seems like a better option.
In this metagame I think the sideboard slot is better used elsewhere.
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)Else, slam Night of Souls' Betrayal.
1 mana less is a HUGE deal and makes it still quite good against Elves and Affinity, if combined with a board wipe and other removal.
Against Hatebears and Death and Taxes 5 mana can soon be 6 or 7 mana and -1/-1 shuts down so many of their pieces that getting it out earlier and reliably is quite important.
Even with Twin no longer being a thing, having the effect t4 not t5+ (5 mana is not just 1 mana more than 4, it can often be 1-3 mana more, which is a LOT) is a lot better.
If you have some Damnation in your list it becomes a lot better even, as you can drop it after one and more or less shut down Bogles.
Similarly, if you survive till turn 4 and play this against Infect, it's basically gg.
So, it does shut down, or at least severely impede a lot of decks actually:
Infect, Bogles (sometimes), Thopters, Abzan Company (can still Angel Feeder and Melira combo with a bit of setup), Hatebears, DnT, Affinity, and some random jank.
That being said, often you want a sweeper of sorts to come with it, as many of those decks can set up their board to play around the effect.
Once it's down it usually just locks them out though, so 1 or 2 in the sideboard can be quite nice.
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