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I have been thinking about this card and I prefer a land hate deck.
Boom/bust, darkdwellers, restoangel, avalanch riders, the fliker eldrazi, bolt, and somr low end cards
Sorry for spelling and nit linking cards I am on my phone so it's to hard to do so.
True, we could flicker him in and out to get extra value off the trigger. Just at 5 cmc he's pretty high up there and already on the edge of playability without some way to cheat him into play.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I think I'd be pretty sad every time I lived to cast this and didn't hit a Kolaghan's Command. The value is kind of nice compared to Snapcaster hitting a Kolaghan's. Black gives you discard spells and Dismember to help you live long enough to hit , too. Also I think Purphoros deserves testing over at least one copy of Impact Tremors if you're going with the tokens approach; he hits twice as hard and his anthem effect gets very relevant when you empty your hand.
Unfortunately I think this sort of deck is going to have a hard time finding a niche, it's never going to be as fast as a pure aggro/burn deck and it's probably "smaller" than other midrange decks like Eldrazi. Sounds fun to brew with, though.
I've been using GDD in a deck with mana dorks and lotus cobra to power them out. Right now I love to flashback boom/bust. With mana dorks and cobra you can cast bust for free and be way ahead.
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Goblin chord? Theres a lot of ways to make multiple goblins efficiently and chord out the dweller. Simian Spirit Guide, maybe rituals? Dweller gets back rituals or maybe Atarka's Command? Just spitballing here. I don't think he's terrible at all because you're spending comparable mana when you snapcaster something like K command with a much bigger body. Have to figure what are the most devastating things to "Dwell on" so to speak.
Goblin chord? Theres a lot of ways to make multiple goblins efficiently and chord out the dweller. Simian Spirit Guide, maybe rituals? Dweller gets back rituals or maybe Atarka's Command? Just spitballing here. I don't think he's terrible at all because you're spending comparable mana when you snapcaster something like K command with a much bigger body. Have to figure what are the most devastating things to "Dwell on" so to speak.
I dunno about combos, but I could see this card finding a home in Jund or other midrange decks utilizing red. Perhaps not Grixis as they already have Snapcaster Mage, but who knows. Perhaps a budget alternative for Grixis players.
I dunno about combos, but I could see this card finding a home in Jund or other midrange decks utilizing red. Perhaps not Grixis as they already have Snapcaster Mage, but who knows. Perhaps a budget alternative for Grixis players.
I don't think it will though. Ability itself is great for a deck like Jund but 5 mana is too much to be a serious contender.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that in modern they basically got a non-rotating set of king cards that top all others. It would be nice if Wizards actually took a look through the most played cards and just printed random sets of them for modern masters instead of doing what they did for MM2. I still think in a world without snapcaster Goblin Darkdwellers would be a really strong card. It's only disadvantage to snapcaster mage is that it gets the greatest value snapping back a 3 cmc spell. Snapcaster can basically let people cast spells based on their actual mana cost, so turn 3 lightning bolt, slip through space, etc.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Anyone here run goblins got any input on dark dwellers?
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Boom/bust, darkdwellers, restoangel, avalanch riders, the fliker eldrazi, bolt, and somr low end cards
Sorry for spelling and nit linking cards I am on my phone so it's to hard to do so.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Unfortunately I think this sort of deck is going to have a hard time finding a niche, it's never going to be as fast as a pure aggro/burn deck and it's probably "smaller" than other midrange decks like Eldrazi. Sounds fun to brew with, though.
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B 8Rack
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and why does no one play browbeat?
Yeah, it's unfortunate that in modern they basically got a non-rotating set of king cards that top all others. It would be nice if Wizards actually took a look through the most played cards and just printed random sets of them for modern masters instead of doing what they did for MM2. I still think in a world without snapcaster Goblin Darkdwellers would be a really strong card. It's only disadvantage to snapcaster mage is that it gets the greatest value snapping back a 3 cmc spell. Snapcaster can basically let people cast spells based on their actual mana cost, so turn 3 lightning bolt, slip through space, etc.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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