I'm shifting my collection away from standard and more towards Modern. While doing this, I came across my Dragonlord creatures from Dragons of Tarkir and was wondering if any of them have any future playability in eternal formats, specifically Modern? They're all giant flying win conditions that do relatively unfair things, but are they straight up too slow for the format, even if your're cheating them into play?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Longer answer: Dragonlord Ojutai has been the most successful in Modern, with Hoogland scoring a few wins off the card in his UW Scornful Sprites brew. Although the deck is less "Scornful" now than it used to be (he's ditched Scorn in recent builds), Ojutai is still there. He has great synergy with Minamo, School at Water's Edge, and is a strong finisher even in this format. Here's the deck in action at an SCG IQ: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=83503. If you search around, you'll find a few more finishes with that particular style of deck.
The other dragonlords are basically unused in Modern. I've seen Dromoka in maaybe 1-2 Amulet decks in the past month or so, but otherwise the cards are basically absent. They are just really expensive for what they do, as you probably suspect.
I think it depends on the colors to be honest, the normal cookie cutter control deck colors you might play in modern might be UWR, in which case, while ojutai as a finisher may be good, you probably want something more proactive like thundermaw regardless. What this means is that you would only play ojutai if your in esper or UW colors specifically.
I've seen Dragonlord Dromoka more and more often in Amulet Bloom sideboards. I think Dromoka will the Dragonlord who stays Modern-viable the longest because of this. (Ojutai's falling out of what little popularity he had again.)
The above posters mention the lack of play-ability/fringe play the dragon lords see, but I think its worth mentioning that incidentally cracking packs of valuable standard anything and turning it into modern staples is a great way to convert your collection.
An Ojutai translates into just about any fetch right now, which is a great trade as you head into modern.
Otherwise, they aren't worth cheating into play (you'd rather norn/iona/griselbrand), and there are better options generally to hardcast if you're in the market to be doing that= the titan cycle.
The above posters mention the lack of play-ability/fringe play the dragon lords see, but I think its worth mentioning that incidentally cracking packs of valuable standard anything and turning it into modern staples is a great way to convert your collection.
An Ojutai translates into just about any fetch right now, which is a great trade as you head into modern.
Otherwise, they aren't worth cheating into play (you'd rather norn/iona/griselbrand), and there are better options generally to hardcast if you're in the market to be doing that= the titan cycle.
Idk about cracking more packs, but I certainly agree that trading your valuable standard stuff like many of the dragonlords for modern staples like the fetches or even thoughtseizes since they're relatively easy to come by right now is a great way to start building up your modern collection. Most standard staples inevitably drop in price, while the modern staples like fetches and thoughtseizes will eventually rise once the initial end-of-standard flood dries up.
The above posters mention the lack of play-ability/fringe play the dragon lords see, but I think its worth mentioning that incidentally cracking packs of valuable standard anything and turning it into modern staples is a great way to convert your collection.
An Ojutai translates into just about any fetch right now, which is a great trade as you head into modern.
Otherwise, they aren't worth cheating into play (you'd rather norn/iona/griselbrand), and there are better options generally to hardcast if you're in the market to be doing that= the titan cycle.
Idk about cracking more packs, but I certainly agree that trading your valuable standard stuff like many of the dragonlords for modern staples like the fetches or even thoughtseizes since they're relatively easy to come by right now is a great way to start building up your modern collection. Most standard staples inevitably drop in price, while the modern staples like fetches and thoughtseizes will eventually rise once the initial end-of-standard flood dries up.
Oh, cracking packs is a crappy way to get value and work your way into modern, I wouldn't do that--but opening the most valuable standard legal set's packs--either because you also draft, or win them in prize support leads to a bunch of over inflated trade stock with which to trade into modern playables.
For the record, I'd also not buy a box of MM2 with the intention of getting into modern either. I'm fairly invested into modern already but my re-print wish list only exceeds the msrp of a box by about 60 bucks and is way surer of way of getting the cards. I've gotten all my modern cards via cash and standard staples and basically never trade modern for standard stuff outside of the occasional commander jank trade.
Ojutai is being played/tested in a bunch of different decks. Caleb Durward just set up videos using Ojutai in a swans of bryn argoll deck, fascinating brew.
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Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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No. No decent decks use them.
Longer answer:
Dragonlord Ojutai has been the most successful in Modern, with Hoogland scoring a few wins off the card in his UW Scornful Sprites brew. Although the deck is less "Scornful" now than it used to be (he's ditched Scorn in recent builds), Ojutai is still there. He has great synergy with Minamo, School at Water's Edge, and is a strong finisher even in this format. Here's the deck in action at an SCG IQ: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=83503. If you search around, you'll find a few more finishes with that particular style of deck.
The other dragonlords are basically unused in Modern. I've seen Dromoka in maaybe 1-2 Amulet decks in the past month or so, but otherwise the cards are basically absent. They are just really expensive for what they do, as you probably suspect.
Agreed, non of them are really viable
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I've even seen Dromoka in Nykthos Green once.
An Ojutai translates into just about any fetch right now, which is a great trade as you head into modern.
Otherwise, they aren't worth cheating into play (you'd rather norn/iona/griselbrand), and there are better options generally to hardcast if you're in the market to be doing that= the titan cycle.
Idk about cracking more packs, but I certainly agree that trading your valuable standard stuff like many of the dragonlords for modern staples like the fetches or even thoughtseizes since they're relatively easy to come by right now is a great way to start building up your modern collection. Most standard staples inevitably drop in price, while the modern staples like fetches and thoughtseizes will eventually rise once the initial end-of-standard flood dries up.
Oh, cracking packs is a crappy way to get value and work your way into modern, I wouldn't do that--but opening the most valuable standard legal set's packs--either because you also draft, or win them in prize support leads to a bunch of over inflated trade stock with which to trade into modern playables.
For the record, I'd also not buy a box of MM2 with the intention of getting into modern either. I'm fairly invested into modern already but my re-print wish list only exceeds the msrp of a box by about 60 bucks and is way surer of way of getting the cards. I've gotten all my modern cards via cash and standard staples and basically never trade modern for standard stuff outside of the occasional commander jank trade.
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