Hey all, I have one Archeangel of Thune, and I was going to buy another one. I was thinking instead to subsitute a Dragonlord Ojutai into the deck instead. Do you think it will work well?
It obviously depends on your deck, but in general Ojutai is very good in non-aggresive matchups where card advantage and hard-to-remove threats are important (Junk, control mirrors, etc). Against decks like Burn or Affinity, where stabilization is more important, generally Baneslayer or Gideon are better options. I'd base the decision on what kind of deck you are currently more concerned about. Personally, I'm using one Baneslayer and one Gideon in my UW control deck, to very good effect.
I think nobody else here bothered to follow his link. He linked to the standard deck from last season--which is in no way, shape, or form competitive in modern, and if you're considering sleeving that deck up and taking it to a modern event, you'll be thoroughly destroyed.
There are MANY better options for a control deck in modern, and archangel of thune isn't good if you aren't abusing her lifegain/counter mechanics to go infinite or at least threaten going infinite.
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I have to admit that I was just too confused to answer when I saw the standard deck in the link. I thought I was suffering a severe bout of illiteracy as I couldn't figure out how that deck was a modern deck since it is clearly listed as standard. After the mystery presented itself, I just lost interest in the thread
But yeah I have to agree - sleeving up a standard deck for modern can only end in frustration.
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I think he means is Oujutai a playable win condition in UWx Control in Modern. Well, Hoogland did well in an event, so maybe. My problem with Ojutai is that for his cmc, he doesn't do enough. One, he has to attack and hit the opponent to get the 5 damage in and trigger his built in anticipate. Second, good players will hold the otherwise dead removal to kill him, which means either waiting for counter backup or an opportunity when they are tapped oddly (relying on the opponent to make a mistake or be near empty handed), which seems bad. Oujutai is mediocre on defense against anything like Tasigur, a big goyf, siege rhino, etc, and he easily trumped by lingering souls and Liliana of the veil. I still think despite it he is decent, probably as a singleton amidst Gideon, Baneslayer/Batterskull, but I wouldn't go building a deck around him or the dragon type, espcially for silimgar's scorn, to in case anyone may know, hoogland dropped from the latest iteration of his UW Control deck.
I think nobody else here bothered to follow his link. He linked to the standard deck from last season--which is in no way, shape, or form competitive in modern, and if you're considering sleeving that deck up and taking it to a modern event, you'll be thoroughly destroyed.
There are MANY better options for a control deck in modern, and archangel of thune isn't good if you aren't abusing her lifegain/counter mechanics to go infinite or at least threaten going infinite.
Ha! thanks for the advice and yes everyone missed the link. No worries this in no form will be going to a Modern event. I building this deck to troll my buddies, we are all decently new to magic lol Thats why i was wondering If i should throw in Ojutai, because i have one to cut down on costs.
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There are MANY better options for a control deck in modern, and archangel of thune isn't good if you aren't abusing her lifegain/counter mechanics to go infinite or at least threaten going infinite.
Yes, I am a local area mod.WELP. GOOD LIFE CHANGES ALL HAPPEN AT ONCE AND SOME ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVEPrimary Decks:
Modern: Esper Draw-Go
Legacy: RUG Lands
EDH: Sidisi turn-3 storm
But yeah I have to agree - sleeving up a standard deck for modern can only end in frustration.
KnightfallGWUR
Azorius Control UW
Burn RBG
Ha! thanks for the advice and yes everyone missed the link. No worries this in no form will be going to a Modern event. I building this deck to troll my buddies, we are all decently new to magic lol Thats why i was wondering If i should throw in Ojutai, because i have one to cut down on costs.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)