A few people in my LGS are buying Goblin Guides because they think that the extra product won't be able to compensate for the much increased demand of people waiting to buy them. Since burn is a popular deck among people waiting to get into modern I'm not sure how true this is. Has this ever happened with rares before?
All the time. What your buddies fail to realize however is that a GG reprint will still most likely drop the current price for a while before it has a chance to shoot back up. I'd do any GG speculative buying 1-2 weeks after release; it's already seen a modest dip in anticipation of MM17.
So, I bought a playset of Puresteel Paladins (plus 1 foil) and Retract before they spiked. Now, after some playtesting, I'm finding that Cheeri0s might not really be my type of deck. What would you advice? Sell now or hold on in the event the deck really takes of/becomes Tier 1?
Guys, if you've been sitting on Chalice of the Void, now's the time to move. Non-foil English copies from Modern Masters nearly disappeared last night. Probably on the back of Tron and Eldrazi starting to put it to good use, I'd imagine.
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
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tcgplayer shows 58 non-Masterpiece listings (MM and Mirrodin) right now. SCG is out, CF is out, still looks like a decent amount on ebay.
The Mirrodin one seems to be in higher stock for some reason, but TCGplayer currently has literally 2 left from Modern Masters and 7 from Mirrodin under the ~$60 foil price. The eBay price/stock does seem to be in better shape.
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A few people in my LGS are buying Goblin Guides because they think that the extra product won't be able to compensate for the much increased demand of people waiting to buy them. Since burn is a popular deck among people waiting to get into modern I'm not sure how true this is. Has this ever happened with rares before?
All the time. What your buddies fail to realize however is that a GG reprint will still most likely drop the current price for a while before it has a chance to shoot back up. I'd do any GG speculative buying 1-2 weeks after release; it's already seen a modest dip in anticipation of MM17.
agreed, it will most likely end up back where it is now unless they greatly increase the print run, the new supply will not be able to meet the built up demand, but people won't but until the price drops. it's going to shoot back up, but first it will BRIEFLY fall hard
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Project Booster Fun makes it less fun to open a booster.
Guys, if you've been sitting on Chalice of the Void, now's the time to move. Non-foil English copies from Modern Masters nearly disappeared last night. Probably on the back of Tron and Eldrazi starting to put it to good use, I'd imagine.
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
Hmm. Still plenty left on MCM at 25 and 40 EUR for regular and foil, respectively. Should I pick up a playset before they catch on? If they even do?
Guys, if you've been sitting on Chalice of the Void, now's the time to move. Non-foil English copies from Modern Masters nearly disappeared last night. Probably on the back of Tron and Eldrazi starting to put it to good use, I'd imagine.
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
Hmm. Still plenty left on MCM at 25 and 40 EUR for regular and foil, respectively. Should I pick up a playset before they catch on? If they even do?
If the sudden scarcity is a result of new enthusiasm over the card on account of all the decks that are suddenly using it to great success, I'd imagine overseas stores will be feeling it soon as well. Even if not, a reprint (or a ban?) would be about the only way you'd come up on the short end. I don't think either of those is too likely, so I'd put it in the "buy" category if you're looking to spec or use.
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I was able to snipe a playset on eBay nov of 2015 for about 36 USD of chalice of the void. The card had been out for years prior to with fast mana available along side it. If it does see a reprint I'd be impressed if it held anywhere close to its current value as the price jump for the card seemed to be built off the back of the eldrazi pro tour and it just never really fell.
It's a powerful effect sure, but I don't think demand is as strong as people claim if it flew under the radar for so many years.
It would be a smart business decision in almost every regard to put them in Standard without fetchable dual lands. Even despite Siege Rhino, KTK/THS was one of the best times for Standard in recent history and a lot of that had to do with the combination of a fun, powerful multicolor set, pretty good (but not overly good) mana fixing, and the strange combination of tons of value in the set while individual card prices were extremely reasonable. Fetches should be reintroduced as soon as BFZ Duals rotate out, but it's all up to R&D for how long they want to string us along.
Guys, if you've been sitting on Chalice of the Void, now's the time to move. Non-foil English copies from Modern Masters nearly disappeared last night. Probably on the back of Tron and Eldrazi starting to put it to good use, I'd imagine.
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
For anybody who was questioning this guy... price has jumped to $60... good call Rogue...
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Started in Ice Age...got both old and new, from Power 9 to Present Day sets...just ask or name a card!
It would be a smart business decision in almost every regard to put them in Standard without fetchable dual lands. Even despite Siege Rhino, KTK/THS was one of the best times for Standard in recent history and a lot of that had to do with the combination of a fun, powerful multicolor set, pretty good (but not overly good) mana fixing, and the strange combination of tons of value in the set while individual card prices were extremely reasonable. Fetches should be reintroduced as soon as BFZ Duals rotate out, but it's all up to R&D for how long they want to string us along.
No way. Fetches plus the Revolt mechanic is going to be to good for standard
It would be a smart business decision in almost every regard to put them in Standard without fetchable dual lands. Even despite Siege Rhino, KTK/THS was one of the best times for Standard in recent history and a lot of that had to do with the combination of a fun, powerful multicolor set, pretty good (but not overly good) mana fixing, and the strange combination of tons of value in the set while individual card prices were extremely reasonable. Fetches should be reintroduced as soon as BFZ Duals rotate out, but it's all up to R&D for how long they want to string us along.
No way. Fetches plus the Revolt mechanic is going to be to good for standard
It would be incredibly sad if WOTC believes this.
The mechanic, as it stands now, is basically irrelevant in Standard. If it makes a namesake mechanic meaningful, they might see that as a win for flavor AND gameplay (Revolt is in the SET'S NAME!) Even when fetches (without duals) were legal in THS/KTK, most decks only ran a max of 4. Only fetching a basic is extremely limiting and often was worse than the respective Temples and Pain Lands. Plus, introducing enemy fetches in something like a Shard-centered set would mean that each respective shard would only get one fetch (like how each Khans fetch only slotted into one wedge).
But as we have learned, if it makes sense, WotC will do something different...
If they are in Modern Masters, the value of the boxes would skyrocket, and it would be MM13 all over again.
And then the value of Zenfetches would also skyrocket. Would be bad feels all around.
Just ordered 4 cases of MM17 at the LGS. Not at all pleased to get home and find Modern got yet another tournament cut.
Is Modern dying? Acts like this will lead to it....
Which tournament got cut if you don't mind me asking?
I'm just venting here, but I'm pretty upset that my LGS went bankrupt through some horrible business decisions with the warehouse section of the business. Now I literally can drive an extra 30 mi or go to LGS's with fewer than 20 players. Needless to say, I'm a bit upset and this is motivation for me to start moving cards and decks that I rarely use anymore.
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Legacy - Sneak Show, BR Reanimator, Miracles, UW Stoneblade
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
If they are in Modern Masters, the value of the boxes would skyrocket, and it would be MM13 all over again.
And then the value of Zenfetches would also skyrocket. Would be bad feels all around.
Just ordered 4 cases of MM17 at the LGS. Not at all pleased to get home and find Modern got yet another tournament cut.
Is Modern dying? Acts like this will lead to it....
Which tournament got cut if you don't mind me asking?
I'm just venting here, but I'm pretty upset that my LGS went bankrupt through some horrible business decisions with the warehouse section of the business. Now I literally can drive an extra 30 mi or go to LGS's with fewer than 20 players. Needless to say, I'm a bit upset and this is motivation for me to start moving cards and decks that I rarely use anymore.
Can you find some friends to play the game in the kitchen table?
If they are in Modern Masters, the value of the boxes would skyrocket, and it would be MM13 all over again.
And then the value of Zenfetches would also skyrocket. Would be bad feels all around.
Just ordered 4 cases of MM17 at the LGS. Not at all pleased to get home and find Modern got yet another tournament cut.
Is Modern dying? Acts like this will lead to it....
Which tournament got cut if you don't mind me asking?
I'm just venting here, but I'm pretty upset that my LGS went bankrupt through some horrible business decisions with the warehouse section of the business. Now I literally can drive an extra 30 mi or go to LGS's with fewer than 20 players. Needless to say, I'm a bit upset and this is motivation for me to start moving cards and decks that I rarely use anymore.
That sucks. I only went there once for free Modern but it was a nice place to play at. And I drove 20 miles to get there.
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Guys, if you've been sitting on Chalice of the Void, now's the time to move. Non-foil English copies from Modern Masters nearly disappeared last night. Probably on the back of Tron and Eldrazi starting to put it to good use, I'd imagine.
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
For anybody who was questioning this guy... price has jumped to $60... good call Rogue...
Thanks! I'm just lucky my interest in building UB Tezzeret finally motivated me to bite the bullet on it last week.
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Those people who picked up fetches in zendikar block are now glad they held them. They will never go down from where they are now, I am no expert but I can guarantee that.
If they kill modern the prices on those are irrelevant because the only thing propping their price is required legality in constructed competitive and price memory, which is largely a joke. The one good thing for owners is that they likely won't see a standard reprint.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Just won 20x Khans fetchlands in a local tournament. Don't know what to do because now price is so low...should I wait or sell all 20x?
Frontier will ever seen light? Khans fetches will be included in Frontier or not? Maybe price will rise someday? Really don't know...help me!
Pop those bad boys in a binder and forget about them. In 3 years you'll be very glad you held onto them.
All the time. What your buddies fail to realize however is that a GG reprint will still most likely drop the current price for a while before it has a chance to shoot back up. I'd do any GG speculative buying 1-2 weeks after release; it's already seen a modest dip in anticipation of MM17.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
Sell that glass cannon jank.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Unless you want to bank on a MM17 reprint. Personally I don't give it better than 50/50 odds, so it's a big risk.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
The Mirrodin one seems to be in higher stock for some reason, but TCGplayer currently has literally 2 left from Modern Masters and 7 from Mirrodin under the ~$60 foil price. The eBay price/stock does seem to be in better shape.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
agreed, it will most likely end up back where it is now unless they greatly increase the print run, the new supply will not be able to meet the built up demand, but people won't but until the price drops. it's going to shoot back up, but first it will BRIEFLY fall hard
Hmm. Still plenty left on MCM at 25 and 40 EUR for regular and foil, respectively. Should I pick up a playset before they catch on? If they even do?
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
If the sudden scarcity is a result of new enthusiasm over the card on account of all the decks that are suddenly using it to great success, I'd imagine overseas stores will be feeling it soon as well. Even if not, a reprint (or a ban?) would be about the only way you'd come up on the short end. I don't think either of those is too likely, so I'd put it in the "buy" category if you're looking to spec or use.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
It's a powerful effect sure, but I don't think demand is as strong as people claim if it flew under the radar for so many years.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
You boom'd it so hard that you broke the link.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
And then the value of Zenfetches would also skyrocket. Would be bad feels all around.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
For anybody who was questioning this guy... price has jumped to $60... good call Rogue...
No way. Fetches plus the Revolt mechanic is going to be to good for standard
And then the value of Zenfetches would also skyrocket. Would be bad feels all around.
Just ordered 4 cases of MM17 at the LGS. Not at all pleased to get home and find Modern got yet another tournament cut.
Is Modern dying? Acts like this will lead to it....
It would be incredibly sad if WOTC believes this.
The mechanic, as it stands now, is basically irrelevant in Standard. If it makes a namesake mechanic meaningful, they might see that as a win for flavor AND gameplay (Revolt is in the SET'S NAME!) Even when fetches (without duals) were legal in THS/KTK, most decks only ran a max of 4. Only fetching a basic is extremely limiting and often was worse than the respective Temples and Pain Lands. Plus, introducing enemy fetches in something like a Shard-centered set would mean that each respective shard would only get one fetch (like how each Khans fetch only slotted into one wedge).
But as we have learned, if it makes sense, WotC will do something different...
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Which tournament got cut if you don't mind me asking?
I'm just venting here, but I'm pretty upset that my LGS went bankrupt through some horrible business decisions with the warehouse section of the business. Now I literally can drive an extra 30 mi or go to LGS's with fewer than 20 players.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Can you find some friends to play the game in the kitchen table?
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
That sucks. I only went there once for free Modern but it was a nice place to play at. And I drove 20 miles to get there.
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
Thanks!
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
If they kill modern the prices on those are irrelevant because the only thing propping their price is required legality in constructed competitive and price memory, which is largely a joke. The one good thing for owners is that they likely won't see a standard reprint.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Pop those bad boys in a binder and forget about them. In 3 years you'll be very glad you held onto them.
I don't think it's going down anytime soon.