When will the price of Emrakul, the Promised End drop? I want to test it in Tron but don't have any yet.
It's already dropped significantly. It probably bottoms out in a day or two as more people hear about the bannings and try to unload. EDH and casual demand likely keep it from going to bulk status, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised to see it in the $3-5 range.
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Is there any speculation on a reprint of damnation? I want one for my mono black deck but don't have $65 to drop
There is ALWAYS speculation on a Damnation reprint and it keeps not happening. If it's not in MM3 it will probably see a small spike. If it IS in MM3 it will tank. 50/50 shot of either scenario happening.
Thoughts on Peek as a functional/viable replacement for the recently banned Gitaxian Probe? Tcgplayer has the Odyssey printing listed as low as $0.07 (HP) & $0.24 (NM) each, so I figure there's little risk even if it isn't adopted. It looks like Suicide Zoo and Infect players are tossing the idea around, so it might be the time to jump on the opportunity to pick some up.
Thoughts on Peek as a functional/viable replacement for the recently banned Gitaxian Probe? Tcgplayer has the Odyssey printing listed as low as $0.07 (HP) & $0.24 (NM) each, so I figure there's little risk even if it isn't adopted. It looks like Suicide Zoo and Infect players are tossing the idea around, so it might be the time to jump on the opportunity to pick some up.
I can see Infect considering it, but definitely not suicide zoo - Probe was as important for the life loss almost more than the information available.
What happened with Ugin, the Spirit Dragon? His price almost doubled in the period of a week. (Managed to get half my playset before price spike hit at least)
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The price of Emrakul, the Promised End is moving back up. So much for picking up cheap copies after the ban.
Frontier needs to die already. I was able to dump leftover K. Commands, Anafenza, etc that I held onto for too long post-rotation and I figured that the hype would've fizzled out by now. I honestly don't know anybody who plays it at my LGS and I'm genuinely curious if it's actually being played or just amateur speculators buying back their rotated cards from SCG, CK, CF, etc. Everybody and their brother wants to stumble upon the next RIP at $0.10/copy, but that ship has sailed and we've now seen it possible for a single SCG article to shill for some obscure Modern brew and the key components spike overnight. Now I'd imagine that an entire shill format would be gangbusters for business and allow big players on the secondary market to cash out on cardboard that was previously worthless. I know I'm going on a tangent here, but I'd really like to know if there are actually significant amounts of players buying these recently rotated cards and playing with them at your local LGS? I pulled the trigger on Hangarback Walker and Tasigur a few months ago when I thought they had bottomed out, so that seems to have been good timing in retrospect. I like to pick up playsets of rotated cards that I might want to brew with in the future for modern/edh/legacy; my next targets were CoCo and Ugin, but that's no longer a viable option while these shenanigans are happening.
The price of Emrakul, the Promised End is moving back up. So much for picking up cheap copies after the ban.
Frontier needs to die already. I was able to dump leftover K. Commands, Anafenza, etc that I held onto for too long post-rotation and I figured that the hype would've fizzled out by now. I honestly don't know anybody who plays it at my LGS and I'm genuinely curious if it's actually being played or just amateur speculators buying back their rotated cards from SCG, CK, CF, etc. Everybody and their brother wants to stumble upon the next RIP at $0.10/copy, but that ship has sailed and we've now seen it possible for a single SCG article to shill for some obscure Modern brew and the key components spike overnight. Now I'd imagine that an entire shill format would be gangbusters for business and allow big players on the secondary market to cash out on cardboard that was previously worthless. I know I'm going on a tangent here, but I'd really like to know if there are actually significant amounts of players buying these recently rotated cards and playing with them at your local LGS? I pulled the trigger on Hangarback Walker and Tasigur a few months ago when I thought they had bottomed out, so that seems to have been good timing in retrospect. I like to pick up playsets of rotated cards that I might want to brew with in the future for modern/edh/legacy; my next targets were CoCo and Ugin, but that's no longer a viable option while these shenanigans are happening.
It's being played all over. The catch is that in order for it to be played at an LGS, someone has to start pushing for it at the LGS. My own is the same way and we've had a few frontier nights now. However, the real place the format has taken off is Japan and there are a lot of buyers coming out of there snagging cards. I've been playing it and enjoying it both in paper and online, though mostly online. All I can tell you is that it's not dieing, which probably isn't what you want to hear.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
What happened with Ugin, the Spirit Dragon? His price almost doubled in the period of a week. (Managed to get half my playset before price spike hit at least)
A little bit probably comes from those who think Tron is making a huge comeback again, but that cycle keeps repeating so its diminishing every round.
I suspect it has to do with the likes of Frontier, since it's the only colorless planeswalker in that format and the highest-costed one, so if Frontier ever broke anything by accident like Tron, well, Ugin's the only planeswalker option. Bans always lower the morale of Modern for some people, but this is the first time (at least in ages) I think it lowered the morale of Standard for some of its players and if they don't want to play EDH, Frontier honestly is gaining momentum now. It almost feels like Frontier is growing the same way EDH did in response to "bad" decisions, except it still appeals to the 60-card competitive crowd.
Whoa. What's with the Sword spike? UB Tezz speculation?
I mentioned before the bannings that the format would become favorable to UB Tezz soon. It can beat up the fair decks and the fast decks. It has an okay time against the big mana decks as well. However i would be looking at Tezzeret himself, Ensnaring Bridge or Mox Opal for gains.
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U Tron GW Bogles RG Loam UR Blue Breach RBU Grixis Goryo BRU Grixis Delver GBR Jund GBW Junk
The price of Emrakul, the Promised End is moving back up. So much for picking up cheap copies after the ban.
Frontier needs to die already. I was able to dump leftover K. Commands, Anafenza, etc that I held onto for too long post-rotation and I figured that the hype would've fizzled out by now. I honestly don't know anybody who plays it at my LGS and I'm genuinely curious if it's actually being played or just amateur speculators buying back their rotated cards from SCG, CK, CF, etc. Everybody and their brother wants to stumble upon the next RIP at $0.10/copy, but that ship has sailed and we've now seen it possible for a single SCG article to shill for some obscure Modern brew and the key components spike overnight. Now I'd imagine that an entire shill format would be gangbusters for business and allow big players on the secondary market to cash out on cardboard that was previously worthless. I know I'm going on a tangent here, but I'd really like to know if there are actually significant amounts of players buying these recently rotated cards and playing with them at your local LGS? I pulled the trigger on Hangarback Walker and Tasigur a few months ago when I thought they had bottomed out, so that seems to have been good timing in retrospect. I like to pick up playsets of rotated cards that I might want to brew with in the future for modern/edh/legacy; my next targets were CoCo and Ugin, but that's no longer a viable option while these shenanigans are happening.
It's being played all over. The catch is that in order for it to be played at an LGS, someone has to start pushing for it at the LGS. My own is the same way and we've had a few frontier nights now. However, the real place the format has taken off is Japan and there are a lot of buyers coming out of there snagging cards. I've been playing it and enjoying it both in paper and online, though mostly online. All I can tell you is that it's not dieing, which probably isn't what you want to hear.
Thanks, that's good information to know. I don't have a problem with the format if people are actually playing it, however, I am salty about waiting too long to pick up Ugins and CoCo haha
The price of Emrakul, the Promised End is moving back up. So much for picking up cheap copies after the ban.
Frontier needs to die already. I was able to dump leftover K. Commands, Anafenza, etc that I held onto for too long post-rotation and I figured that the hype would've fizzled out by now. I honestly don't know anybody who plays it at my LGS and I'm genuinely curious if it's actually being played or just amateur speculators buying back their rotated cards from SCG, CK, CF, etc. Everybody and their brother wants to stumble upon the next RIP at $0.10/copy, but that ship has sailed and we've now seen it possible for a single SCG article to shill for some obscure Modern brew and the key components spike overnight. Now I'd imagine that an entire shill format would be gangbusters for business and allow big players on the secondary market to cash out on cardboard that was previously worthless. I know I'm going on a tangent here, but I'd really like to know if there are actually significant amounts of players buying these recently rotated cards and playing with them at your local LGS? I pulled the trigger on Hangarback Walker and Tasigur a few months ago when I thought they had bottomed out, so that seems to have been good timing in retrospect. I like to pick up playsets of rotated cards that I might want to brew with in the future for modern/edh/legacy; my next targets were CoCo and Ugin, but that's no longer a viable option while these shenanigans are happening.
It's being played all over. The catch is that in order for it to be played at an LGS, someone has to start pushing for it at the LGS. My own is the same way and we've had a few frontier nights now. However, the real place the format has taken off is Japan and there are a lot of buyers coming out of there snagging cards. I've been playing it and enjoying it both in paper and online, though mostly online. All I can tell you is that it's not dieing, which probably isn't what you want to hear.
Thanks, that's good information to know. I don't have a problem with the format if people are actually playing it, however, I am salty about waiting too long to pick up Ugins and CoCo haha
There's no way it's spiking all the way to 40 usd yet, people are holding copies and waiting to off load them still so I think we both can get our playsets finished before having to go emptying our wallets. I still need 2 more cocos to complete that playset as well.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I was not impressed with SOTM decks, I thought it sucked
I was beating it with every deck, combo, midrange, jeskai flash, infect, affinity
It's just a crappy deck, I think it's a waste of money
When I played the deck last year, I had similar experiences, where I would either only have a 55% against combo, and completely fold to aggro, or just vice versa. I couldn't get above a 60% win rate against any archetype without folding to nearly 3/4 of the metagame.
That being said, I'll never know if I had anywhere near an optimal version, but most of my wins definitely came from the card advantage Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas gave me. I could definitely push through K-Commands, and Ancient Grudges, but still folded easily to Stony Silence.
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
There is ALWAYS speculation on a Damnation reprint and it keeps not happening. If it's not in MM3 it will probably see a small spike. If it IS in MM3 it will tank. 50/50 shot of either scenario happening.
It's at 10 bucks now. I think it'll drop to around 5-7 or so. It's still a fairly good card that just needs to find a home.
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I can see Infect considering it, but definitely not suicide zoo - Probe was as important for the life loss almost more than the information available.
I think if you were to pick a card that costs U for that deck it should be Spell Pierce as now they'll need more protection mid kill attempt.
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Frontier needs to die already. I was able to dump leftover K. Commands, Anafenza, etc that I held onto for too long post-rotation and I figured that the hype would've fizzled out by now. I honestly don't know anybody who plays it at my LGS and I'm genuinely curious if it's actually being played or just amateur speculators buying back their rotated cards from SCG, CK, CF, etc. Everybody and their brother wants to stumble upon the next RIP at $0.10/copy, but that ship has sailed and we've now seen it possible for a single SCG article to shill for some obscure Modern brew and the key components spike overnight. Now I'd imagine that an entire shill format would be gangbusters for business and allow big players on the secondary market to cash out on cardboard that was previously worthless. I know I'm going on a tangent here, but I'd really like to know if there are actually significant amounts of players buying these recently rotated cards and playing with them at your local LGS? I pulled the trigger on Hangarback Walker and Tasigur a few months ago when I thought they had bottomed out, so that seems to have been good timing in retrospect. I like to pick up playsets of rotated cards that I might want to brew with in the future for modern/edh/legacy; my next targets were CoCo and Ugin, but that's no longer a viable option while these shenanigans are happening.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
It's being played all over. The catch is that in order for it to be played at an LGS, someone has to start pushing for it at the LGS. My own is the same way and we've had a few frontier nights now. However, the real place the format has taken off is Japan and there are a lot of buyers coming out of there snagging cards. I've been playing it and enjoying it both in paper and online, though mostly online. All I can tell you is that it's not dieing, which probably isn't what you want to hear.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
A little bit probably comes from those who think Tron is making a huge comeback again, but that cycle keeps repeating so its diminishing every round.
I suspect it has to do with the likes of Frontier, since it's the only colorless planeswalker in that format and the highest-costed one, so if Frontier ever broke anything by accident like Tron, well, Ugin's the only planeswalker option. Bans always lower the morale of Modern for some people, but this is the first time (at least in ages) I think it lowered the morale of Standard for some of its players and if they don't want to play EDH, Frontier honestly is gaining momentum now. It almost feels like Frontier is growing the same way EDH did in response to "bad" decisions, except it still appeals to the 60-card competitive crowd.
Whoa. What's with the Sword spike? UB Tezz speculation?
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
I mentioned before the bannings that the format would become favorable to UB Tezz soon. It can beat up the fair decks and the fast decks. It has an okay time against the big mana decks as well. However i would be looking at Tezzeret himself, Ensnaring Bridge or Mox Opal for gains.
U Tron
GW Bogles
RG Loam
UR Blue Breach
RBU Grixis Goryo
BRU Grixis Delver
GBR Jund
GBW Junk
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BR Reanimator
Thanks, that's good information to know. I don't have a problem with the format if people are actually playing it, however, I am salty about waiting too long to pick up Ugins and CoCo haha
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There's no way it's spiking all the way to 40 usd yet, people are holding copies and waiting to off load them still so I think we both can get our playsets finished before having to go emptying our wallets. I still need 2 more cocos to complete that playset as well.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
I was beating it with every deck, combo, midrange, jeskai flash, infect, affinity
It's just a crappy deck, I think it's a waste of money
Frontier screws with the old math of cards.
When I played the deck last year, I had similar experiences, where I would either only have a 55% against combo, and completely fold to aggro, or just vice versa. I couldn't get above a 60% win rate against any archetype without folding to nearly 3/4 of the metagame.
That being said, I'll never know if I had anywhere near an optimal version, but most of my wins definitely came from the card advantage Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas gave me. I could definitely push through K-Commands, and Ancient Grudges, but still folded easily to Stony Silence.