There are a choice few cards you can spec for pre order. I ordered a playset of Sram, Senior Edificer, and with priority shipping, was still under 10 bucks. Cards like Fatal Push, and Baral on the other hand seem over priced at the moment. Last I check Fatal Push was over 3.50 through CFB, and Baral was over 7. This set will be opened a ton due to the chase Inventions along with people just hoping to open certain powerful cards. 3.50 for an in print uncommon seems crazy.
Edit: As for Devotion cards getting a "push" in price due to FP, I doubt it. While the deck does greatly benefit from turn one removal, I can't see Phyrexian Obliterator benefiting. Obliterator was the go to four drop until Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet came out. Not only is Kalitas generally better, but he is also cheaper. Geralf's Messenger could see a bit of a bump, but not everyone plays him. I do have to say, I'm rather happy so many seem to be thinking of Black Devotion this spoiler season.
Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
im glad im already have 4x of saheelis when they were cheap, opened 1 in the prerelease, buy one by 8€, another by 4€ and the last one in 3€, now has spiked to 10€ each
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If my rudimentary math is mostly accurate, you have a little under 10% chance to get any one common in any one booster pack. Uncommons are about 3.8% for any one uncommon, and rares/mythics are 1.9% and 1.3% respectively. There are nearly as many uncommons as commons (~80 vs ~100), but uncommons make up only 3 slots in a booster pack, as opposed to 10. So any specific uncommon is much less common than people may give credit for, and closer to a rare than it is a common in terms of ubiquity.
Confirming this, as I also just did the math. Kaladesh has 82 uncommons. Each pack has 3 uncommons with no repeats, which gives you about a 3.7% chance of opening a given KLD uncommon in any pack. It's a reasonable guess that the average number of a given KLD uncommon per box is about 1.3, not accounting for foils, or about 8 per case. Getting 2 playsets of Aether Hub out of 5 boxes of KLD is actually above average. For reference, odds of a particular KLD common out of a pack are closer to 8.6%, which translates into 3 copies a box on average. Your friend's experience more or less matches up with the math when we assume that each card within a rarity has an even distribution.
An uncommon is significantly more common than a rare, but it's still a much more limited quantity than a common. All of that said, Fatal Push is still dropping a lot from its preorder price unless there's significant standard demand for it. Unless AER is very underopened, I have a hard time seeing Push above $2-3 until AER goes out of print.
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If my rudimentary math is mostly accurate, you have a little under 10% chance to get any one common in any one booster pack. Uncommons are about 3.8% for any one uncommon, and rares/mythics are 1.9% and 1.3% respectively. There are nearly as many uncommons as commons (~80 vs ~100), but uncommons make up only 3 slots in a booster pack, as opposed to 10. So any specific uncommon is much less common than people may give credit for, and closer to a rare than it is a common in terms of ubiquity.
That's nice to know, and seems more or less spot on to me. Which brings me back to my original point that Fatal Push for $5 isn't even that ridiculous given that it's highly playable not just in standard but also in frontier(ewww) and modern, AND also much more playable than a large portion of the rares/mythics of the set.
The masterpiece factor of a lot more box openings might 'flood' the market with supply for a while so assuming buying in at $5, you would probably expect a short to mid term loss. But it will likely creep back up to $5ish within two years and still have room for growth.
Well all this is just speculation but I think it's pretty reasonable.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
I'm not sure if someone mentioned it already, but there have been spikes on Ravenous Trap and Surgical Extraction. Ravenous Trap went from $0.50 to $2 and Extraction went from $11 to $22. Maybe people want to play the decks that Fatal Push will be in, but want game against a top deck in Dredge?
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I'm not sure if someone mentioned it already, but there have been spikes on Ravenous Trap and Surgical Extraction. Ravenous Trap went from $0.50 to $2 and Extraction went from $11 to $22. Maybe people want to play the decks that Fatal Push will be in, but want game against a top deck in Dredge?
That looks to me like a buyout more than organic demand. Not that they can't sustain that price point, but I'm a little suspicious of that movement.
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I'm not sure if someone mentioned it already, but there have been spikes on Ravenous Trap and Surgical Extraction. Ravenous Trap went from $0.50 to $2 and Extraction went from $11 to $22. Maybe people want to play the decks that Fatal Push will be in, but want game against a top deck in Dredge?
That looks to me like a buyout more than organic demand. Not that they can't sustain that price point, but I'm a little suspicious of that movement.
Oh, you're most certainly right. Maybe I should have clarified that? I even responded to the facebook post that the prices are temporary and it would be hard to move all that much higher than the original prices. Not as hard as something like Pride of the Clouds though.
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There are a choice few cards you can spec for pre order. I ordered a playset of Sram, Senior Edificer, and with priority shipping, was still under 10 bucks. Cards like Fatal Push, and Baral on the other hand seem over priced at the moment. Last I check Fatal Push was over 3.50 through CFB, and Baral was over 7. This set will be opened a ton due to the chase Inventions along with people just hoping to open certain powerful cards. 3.50 for an in print uncommon seems crazy.
Edit: As for Devotion cards getting a "push" in price due to FP, I doubt it. While the deck does greatly benefit from turn one removal, I can't see Phyrexian Obliterator benefiting. Obliterator was the go to four drop until Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet came out. Not only is Kalitas generally better, but he is also cheaper. Geralf's Messenger could see a bit of a bump, but not everyone plays him. I do have to say, I'm rather happy so many seem to be thinking of Black Devotion this spoiler season.
Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
He gives the equipment storm deck in modern a puresteel paladin 5-8 which is HUGE for the consistency of the deck
There are a choice few cards you can spec for pre order. I ordered a playset of Sram, Senior Edificer, and with priority shipping, was still under 10 bucks. Cards like Fatal Push, and Baral on the other hand seem over priced at the moment. Last I check Fatal Push was over 3.50 through CFB, and Baral was over 7. This set will be opened a ton due to the chase Inventions along with people just hoping to open certain powerful cards. 3.50 for an in print uncommon seems crazy.
Edit: As for Devotion cards getting a "push" in price due to FP, I doubt it. While the deck does greatly benefit from turn one removal, I can't see Phyrexian Obliterator benefiting. Obliterator was the go to four drop until Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet came out. Not only is Kalitas generally better, but he is also cheaper. Geralf's Messenger could see a bit of a bump, but not everyone plays him. I do have to say, I'm rather happy so many seem to be thinking of Black Devotion this spoiler season.
Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
Sram slots right into Modern Cheeri0s. The deck has needed another Puresteel Paladin for some time, and we finally got him. The deck now has 8 engines, which should make it much more consistent. With Paladin, pre turn four kills where possible, but it could be hard to do because of the lack of engines.
I hadn't even thought of Bogles, though that may help with his price after a while. Does Bogles want another Spiritdancer?
There are a choice few cards you can spec for pre order. I ordered a playset of Sram, Senior Edificer, and with priority shipping, was still under 10 bucks. Cards like Fatal Push, and Baral on the other hand seem over priced at the moment. Last I check Fatal Push was over 3.50 through CFB, and Baral was over 7. This set will be opened a ton due to the chase Inventions along with people just hoping to open certain powerful cards. 3.50 for an in print uncommon seems crazy.
Edit: As for Devotion cards getting a "push" in price due to FP, I doubt it. While the deck does greatly benefit from turn one removal, I can't see Phyrexian Obliterator benefiting. Obliterator was the go to four drop until Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet came out. Not only is Kalitas generally better, but he is also cheaper. Geralf's Messenger could see a bit of a bump, but not everyone plays him. I do have to say, I'm rather happy so many seem to be thinking of Black Devotion this spoiler season.
Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
Sram slots right into Modern Cheeri0s. The deck has needed another Puresteel Paladin for some time, and we finally got him. The deck now has 8 engines, which should make it much more consistent. With Paladin, pre turn four kills where possible, but it could be hard to do because of the lack of engines.
I hadn't even thought of Bogles, though that may help with his price after a while. Does Bogles want another Spiritdancer?
I have Bogles sleeved up for my gauntlet, as often as i am playing it i hardly ever want to see any creature that dies to removal. I mostly just care about jaming a Scout/Bogle and being fast. It could help but i think it wouldnt be run as more than a 1 or 2 of. Spiritdancer is better, it turns your Umbras into permanent Giant Growths that save it after a kill spell. Sram doesnt do that. Sram will always just sit there to let you draw and in that situation, Spiritdancer is just better.
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There are a choice few cards you can spec for pre order. I ordered a playset of Sram, Senior Edificer, and with priority shipping, was still under 10 bucks. Cards like Fatal Push, and Baral on the other hand seem over priced at the moment. Last I check Fatal Push was over 3.50 through CFB, and Baral was over 7. This set will be opened a ton due to the chase Inventions along with people just hoping to open certain powerful cards. 3.50 for an in print uncommon seems crazy.
Edit: As for Devotion cards getting a "push" in price due to FP, I doubt it. While the deck does greatly benefit from turn one removal, I can't see Phyrexian Obliterator benefiting. Obliterator was the go to four drop until Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet came out. Not only is Kalitas generally better, but he is also cheaper. Geralf's Messenger could see a bit of a bump, but not everyone plays him. I do have to say, I'm rather happy so many seem to be thinking of Black Devotion this spoiler season.
Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
Sram slots right into Modern Cheeri0s. The deck has needed another Puresteel Paladin for some time, and we finally got him. The deck now has 8 engines, which should make it much more consistent. With Paladin, pre turn four kills where possible, but it could be hard to do because of the lack of engines.
I hadn't even thought of Bogles, though that may help with his price after a while. Does Bogles want another Spiritdancer?
No *****? Good to know, I'm definitely gonna look into that deck a bit more. Sounds interesting. As far as Bogles go, we definitely don't want another spiritdancer. Hell, I've cut down to three or two at times since it's a lightning rod. However, I'm interested in replacing 1 kor with a Sram to see if I get an added value from the same ability (more/less) & cmc for the baseline 2 power he has. Kor + Umbra is basically the only way to keep her alive for more than a turn, so when we end up with a bad mulligan hand and Kor it hurts being able to cast her, but not get in that free damage that Sram could get. I find myself suiting up Kor in these scenarios and by the time I draw a Bogle, she's been path'd and I now have 1-2 less auras in the arsenal. In short, Sram isn't anything to write home about, but there are situations where I'd rather have him instead of Kor. After pre-release, I'll be looking to pick up two copies or so to test out.
I preorder torrential gear hulk for 5 each, Lili for 18 each, flayer for 7 each so I have had some recent luck in the preorder department but it is usually just not a good idea.
And I ordered Jace, Vryn's Prodigy for $10. It CAN be great if a card explodes. But 99% of cards do not explode and people feel really silly for buying stuff like Day's Undoing or Narset Transcendent for pre order prices.
People were losing their ***** over Narset's spoiler. While people were busy hyping that card up, I bought a playset of Ojutai's for 20 sucks (for standard, of course).
Too bad Narset was a lousy card, the artwork is amazing on that card
I wouldn't call Narset lousy considering that there is a tier 3 deck on the rise that plays 3 copies of her. Thoughts on this hype around Saheeli rai combo?
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The lack of flash really hurts. I get a whole turn to interact with you before you can combo off unless you wait to cast both of them on the same turn. I'm not sold on the Saheeli's viability outside of the combo, which in my mind is another strike against it.
Still, UR players are desperately looking for something to scratch that Twin itch. Even it's it's not great, I think it'll hold some value for people who just want to play some Twin.
Pestermites, exarchs, cliques and snap-bolt-snap could pick away at games
The PW doesn't do that much thats worth tapping out, and tapping out at 4 mana for a 1/4 body is a big deal. Splinter Twin decks using kiki sounds more effective than this
Exarch could be flashed in, do tap shenanigans, etc
This is maybe standard combo playable, I don't think it's equipped to be played in modern
Kaladesh was finishing up a year ago and Aether Revolt was well into development when they banned Twin.
I wonder if they smirked as they banned Twin, and thought to themselves, 'Wait a year, and we'll give you a fairer, less oppressive version of Twin back'?
Also, what's with the Surgical Extraction spike? Not complaining, I've got 2 playsets.
So, 0 to 10, how likely is that SFM comes off the ban list, if not this month, on this semester?
How safe a investment would it be to pick some copies now?
I think the chances are pretty low, on your scale if 10 is high, I would put it around 2-3. Although the price is as low as its going to get, so you're not risking much. I bought a set myself, not for speculation but if it does get unbanned I'll have the option to play it.
So, 0 to 10, how likely is that SFM comes off the ban list, if not this month, on this semester?
How safe a investment would it be to pick some copies now?
I'd be surprised if it was still on the banlist this time next year, although I'd put it at maybe a 3-4 out of 10 likelihood for this January announcement. And the only reason for that not being more a 2-3 being the slight possibility that WotC decided on a Stoneforge Mystic unban well ahead of time and wanted to print it in Modern Masters 2017 to build ungodly hype.
I'm pretty confident that SFM would nudge Modern in the direction WorC wants to see it go by giving even the more aggro decks reason to run interaction. Between that and the Modern Nexus data pointing towards it not warping the format (and how fast and linear the format is right now), I'd be very surprised if it isn't being heavily considered. Although that doesn't necessarily translate into an immediate unbanning.
If you're planning on picking it up, I'd say now is the time. Last January, Aaron Forsythe made an overture towards a possible Ancestral Vision unbanning on his Twitter (I think? Source amnesia.) because of the Twin ban. Even if Stoneforge Mystic isn't unbanned this month, if anything like that happens, the price will very likely jump.
Kaladesh was finishing up a year ago and Aether Revolt was well into development when they banned Twin.
I wonder if they smirked as they banned Twin, and thought to themselves, 'Wait a year, and we'll give you a fairer, less oppressive version of Twin back'?
Also, what's with the Surgical Extraction spike? Not complaining, I've got 2 playsets.
They thought Kiki-jikki would replace Splinter Twin and the deck would still be strong, just a turn slower
Guess they didn't realize how brutal the 3 red to cast him was.
This is a slow ass, sorcery speed combo. You're also paying 4 mana for a 1/4 body that can't catch you by surprise. I'd rather just tap out for Nahiri at that point, she's harder to deal with and provides CA parity to kill
There are a million reasons (I'm sure i'm not exaggerating) why Kiki and this new 'twin' combo are several tiers weaker, like T3 or T2 at best. I proxied it up and messed around and its just not the same.
I decided to buy 3 foil SFM's and a foil batterskull, in the case of an unban
I don't think she's getting unbanned this announcement, but I think her time is truly coming. I'd rather pay for her foils now than her doubling in price as foils
Looking for some advice. I currently have 3 JTMS and I am debating finishing the playset before a the next B&R announcement. What does everyone think the price spike will be if it is unbanned (which I will admit is a long shot)? Putting up $200 for a spec is too much but is it worth it for just another $50 to insure I have the playset?
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Im curious, what's your rationale for the Sram spec? I play Modern Bogles and I've been planning on replacing 1 or 2 Kor Spiritdancer with him, but I couldn't think of any other places where he'd see play. Especially because of Spiritdancer's existence and the fact that it does almost the same job except Sram is legendary and Kor is not. However, I don't follow the standard meta, so I'm thinking in terms of Modern, eternal formats, and edh.
On another note, I'm expecting Push to end up being a glorified Aether Hub as far as pre-orders go. Compared to Hub, I think it'll see immediate play in non-rotating formats, but by the time it rotates out of standard, there will be enough in circulation that they can be had for a much more reasonable price. However, foils may be a smart pickup after pre-release through the midway point of A.Revolt's lifecycle, depending on what they're going for. For example,Gurmag Angler comes to mind as a recent card that sees eternal play and foils are still around $10 for a common.
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im glad im already have 4x of saheelis when they were cheap, opened 1 in the prerelease, buy one by 8€, another by 4€ and the last one in 3€, now has spiked to 10€ each
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An uncommon is significantly more common than a rare, but it's still a much more limited quantity than a common. All of that said, Fatal Push is still dropping a lot from its preorder price unless there's significant standard demand for it. Unless AER is very underopened, I have a hard time seeing Push above $2-3 until AER goes out of print.
That's nice to know, and seems more or less spot on to me. Which brings me back to my original point that Fatal Push for $5 isn't even that ridiculous given that it's highly playable not just in standard but also in frontier(ewww) and modern, AND also much more playable than a large portion of the rares/mythics of the set.
The masterpiece factor of a lot more box openings might 'flood' the market with supply for a while so assuming buying in at $5, you would probably expect a short to mid term loss. But it will likely creep back up to $5ish within two years and still have room for growth.
Well all this is just speculation but I think it's pretty reasonable.
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)That looks to me like a buyout more than organic demand. Not that they can't sustain that price point, but I'm a little suspicious of that movement.
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Oh, you're most certainly right. Maybe I should have clarified that? I even responded to the facebook post that the prices are temporary and it would be hard to move all that much higher than the original prices. Not as hard as something like Pride of the Clouds though.
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)He gives the equipment storm deck in modern a puresteel paladin 5-8 which is HUGE for the consistency of the deck
The only exciting card I see is Push (Which is amazing)
I'm not convinced the expertise cards, 4 mana is a lot, even if I get to cast a free card
I can't see casting Yahenee's expertise over damnation
Sram slots right into Modern Cheeri0s. The deck has needed another Puresteel Paladin for some time, and we finally got him. The deck now has 8 engines, which should make it much more consistent. With Paladin, pre turn four kills where possible, but it could be hard to do because of the lack of engines.
I hadn't even thought of Bogles, though that may help with his price after a while. Does Bogles want another Spiritdancer?
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I have Bogles sleeved up for my gauntlet, as often as i am playing it i hardly ever want to see any creature that dies to removal. I mostly just care about jaming a Scout/Bogle and being fast. It could help but i think it wouldnt be run as more than a 1 or 2 of. Spiritdancer is better, it turns your Umbras into permanent Giant Growths that save it after a kill spell. Sram doesnt do that. Sram will always just sit there to let you draw and in that situation, Spiritdancer is just better.
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No *****? Good to know, I'm definitely gonna look into that deck a bit more. Sounds interesting. As far as Bogles go, we definitely don't want another spiritdancer. Hell, I've cut down to three or two at times since it's a lightning rod. However, I'm interested in replacing 1 kor with a Sram to see if I get an added value from the same ability (more/less) & cmc for the baseline 2 power he has. Kor + Umbra is basically the only way to keep her alive for more than a turn, so when we end up with a bad mulligan hand and Kor it hurts being able to cast her, but not get in that free damage that Sram could get. I find myself suiting up Kor in these scenarios and by the time I draw a Bogle, she's been path'd and I now have 1-2 less auras in the arsenal. In short, Sram isn't anything to write home about, but there are situations where I'd rather have him instead of Kor. After pre-release, I'll be looking to pick up two copies or so to test out.
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I wouldn't call Narset lousy considering that there is a tier 3 deck on the rise that plays 3 copies of her. Thoughts on this hype around Saheeli rai combo?
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Still, UR players are desperately looking for something to scratch that Twin itch. Even it's it's not great, I think it'll hold some value for people who just want to play some Twin.
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Pestermites, exarchs, cliques and snap-bolt-snap could pick away at games
The PW doesn't do that much thats worth tapping out, and tapping out at 4 mana for a 1/4 body is a big deal. Splinter Twin decks using kiki sounds more effective than this
Exarch could be flashed in, do tap shenanigans, etc
This is maybe standard combo playable, I don't think it's equipped to be played in modern
I wonder if they smirked as they banned Twin, and thought to themselves, 'Wait a year, and we'll give you a fairer, less oppressive version of Twin back'?
Also, what's with the Surgical Extraction spike? Not complaining, I've got 2 playsets.
How safe a investment would it be to pick some copies now?
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
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GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
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I'd be surprised if it was still on the banlist this time next year, although I'd put it at maybe a 3-4 out of 10 likelihood for this January announcement. And the only reason for that not being more a 2-3 being the slight possibility that WotC decided on a Stoneforge Mystic unban well ahead of time and wanted to print it in Modern Masters 2017 to build ungodly hype.
I'm pretty confident that SFM would nudge Modern in the direction WorC wants to see it go by giving even the more aggro decks reason to run interaction. Between that and the Modern Nexus data pointing towards it not warping the format (and how fast and linear the format is right now), I'd be very surprised if it isn't being heavily considered. Although that doesn't necessarily translate into an immediate unbanning.
If you're planning on picking it up, I'd say now is the time. Last January, Aaron Forsythe made an overture towards a possible Ancestral Vision unbanning on his Twitter (I think? Source amnesia.) because of the Twin ban. Even if Stoneforge Mystic isn't unbanned this month, if anything like that happens, the price will very likely jump.
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
They thought Kiki-jikki would replace Splinter Twin and the deck would still be strong, just a turn slower
Guess they didn't realize how brutal the 3 red to cast him was.
This is a slow ass, sorcery speed combo. You're also paying 4 mana for a 1/4 body that can't catch you by surprise. I'd rather just tap out for Nahiri at that point, she's harder to deal with and provides CA parity to kill
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I don't think she's getting unbanned this announcement, but I think her time is truly coming. I'd rather pay for her foils now than her doubling in price as foils
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki