Kind of. Wheel of sun and moon is used in snapcaster mage decks because it becomes a onesided graveyard hate since it enchants player. The dude who originally caused the price to spike is a local in my scene.
Bit weird, we've always had Relic of Progenitus, which is arguably better.
No its not. Wheel makes sure that they can never have a card in their graveyard. Relic is only good because it's colorless. If you are in white and you are playing snap wheel always better.
I beg to differ, Wheel has no influence on cards already in the player's graveyard, is much harder to cast and it doesn't cantrip. Plus what everyone else said - everyone knows Relic, nobody knows Wheel.
Hmm, Celestial Colonnade has gone up a lot in price. Almost 50 dollars now. The Colonnade I bought at SCG just a few months ago only cost 20 dollars - it's a moderately played one. :>
I hope it gets reprinted somewhere soon, to lower the price a bit.....
I feel like Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is a great spec right now. The card sees tons of play and can only go up since it's been printed once.
It does seem like a decent spec, but I want to point out that there is also a PR version. Both are pretty rare to find though. The card was $1 for years. I always wondered why, especially during Primeval Titan Standard.
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I feel like Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is a great spec right now. The card sees tons of play and can only go up since it's been printed once.
It does seem like a decent spec, but I want to point out that there is also a PR version. Both are pretty rare to find though. The card was $1 for years. I always wondered why, especially during Primeval Titan Standard.
I still feel like the card is super cheep at $7-8 ish dollars for how powerful it is.
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Honestly, all it takes is someone buying the card out. Then it would spike to $20-40, depending on how deep they went.
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Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
The problem with valakut is that their are other cards in it's decks that are much more limited in supply (I'm looking at you Scapeshift) so until they get reprinted Valakut's demand will not reflect its powerlevel
It does seem like a decent spec, but I want to point out that there is also a PR version. Both are pretty rare to find though. The card was $1 for years. I always wondered why, especially during Primeval Titan Standard.
As a person who is generally not fond of foils and promos, I think the promo Valakut is stunning. I grabbed one a while back because it was going for about the same price and the other was sold out, and boy howdy was I impressed. Promos are a more select market, so I'm not sure it matters, but if I buy extras it will be those as long as the multiplier remains low.
I think the fact that it has historically only been a 2 of in Scapeshift and that Scapeshifft has been never been a predominant deck in tier 1 is what keeps it lower. Don't get me wrong. It's been a constant presence in the meta to one extent or another for a long time, and Sultai or BTL Scapeshift have been my favorite modern decks for almost as long, but it never saturated the way Grixis "Control" did.
Hmm, Celestial Colonnade has gone up a lot in price. Almost 50 dollars now. The Colonnade I bought at SCG just a few months ago only cost 20 dollars - it's a moderately played one. :>
I hope it gets reprinted somewhere soon, to lower the price a bit.....
Sweet, time to unload my playset of nm/m foil promo versions. This is a card I was surprised to see at only 20 as well for the longest time, I figure it would have spiked again sooner honestly.
Years ago, when Zendikar and Rise of Eldrazi standard.. I was browsing binders at a shop. And Colonnades were there for only 250 pesos each - approximately 5 USD. Didn't buy them because I thought they were not strong. I regret that decision up to this day. :<
Hmm, Celestial Colonnade has gone up a lot in price. Almost 50 dollars now. The Colonnade I bought at SCG just a few months ago only cost 20 dollars - it's a moderately played one. :>
I hope it gets reprinted somewhere soon, to lower the price a bit.....
pretty sure I got rid of mine at 34 or 44 a month or two ago
the price is probably because of the popularity of Nahiri Jeskai
Hmm, Celestial Colonnade has gone up a lot in price. Almost 50 dollars now. The Colonnade I bought at SCG just a few months ago only cost 20 dollars - it's a moderately played one. :>
I hope it gets reprinted somewhere soon, to lower the price a bit.....
I haven't looked at the price of this card in months. I got mine for $15 a piece a few months ago.
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I don't see Nahiri being a mainstay in Modern but she sure was a nice fad for the last few months.
Can you name a card that enjoyed such a commanding month and then totally fell off the Modern radar? Jeskai Control was the second most-played deck in paper T8s this month after only Jund, and about 65%-70% of those lists used 3-4 Nahiri. Is there any Modern precedent to suggest a deck could post such numbers one month and then totally lose relevance later? Yes, her hype was overblown, but that's because we had ridiculous arguments like Tom Ross's about her being banned in six months. The more realistic hype, that she was a Tier 1 player, came true.
Given those circumstances, how can we call Nahiri a fad? This strikes me as unusually reactionary, out of dialogue with the evidence, and maybe even supporting some ulterior agenda. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but calling her a "fad" that will not stay a mainstay seems very misleading. I personally expect this card to stay valuable for some time to come.
I don't see Nahiri being a mainstay in Modern but she sure was a nice fad for the last few months.
Can you name a card that enjoyed such a commanding month and then totally fell off the Modern radar? Jeskai Control was the second most-played deck in paper T8s this month after only Jund, and about 65%-70% of those lists used 3-4 Nahiri. Is there any Modern precedent to suggest a deck could post such numbers one month and then totally lose relevance later? Yes, her hype was overblown, but that's because we had ridiculous arguments like Tom Ross's about her being banned in six months. The more realistic hype, that she was a Tier 1 player, came true.
Given those circumstances, how can we call Nahiri a fad? This strikes me as unusually reactionary, out of dialogue with the evidence, and maybe even supporting some ulterior agenda. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but calling her a "fad" that will not stay a mainstay seems very misleading. I personally expect this card to stay valuable for some time to come.
I think it speaks volumes that this card is still seeing success at the height of grafdigger's cage being used to stop her.
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I don't see Nahiri being a mainstay in Modern but she sure was a nice fad for the last few months.
Can you name a card that enjoyed such a commanding month and then totally fell off the Modern radar? Jeskai Control was the second most-played deck in paper T8s this month after only Jund, and about 65%-70% of those lists used 3-4 Nahiri. Is there any Modern precedent to suggest a deck could post such numbers one month and then totally lose relevance later? Yes, her hype was overblown, but that's because we had ridiculous arguments like Tom Ross's about her being banned in six months. The more realistic hype, that she was a Tier 1 player, came true.
Given those circumstances, how can we call Nahiri a fad? This strikes me as unusually reactionary, out of dialogue with the evidence, and maybe even supporting some ulterior agenda. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but calling her a "fad" that will not stay a mainstay seems very misleading. I personally expect this card to stay valuable for some time to come.
I think it speaks volumes that this card is still seeing success at the height of grafdigger's cage being used to stop her.
I guess it depends on how you define success. After her inaugural win (only copy in T32), she had zero T8s at either the following GPs and zero in T16 at the following SCG Classic. I suppose going 5-0 in a couple of MTGO Leagues is pretty good? And if you twist the numbers enough, she looks amazing! Let's see how the deck is positioned after SCG Dallas, which will be the last large Modern event until August. Without the help of future printings or some new tech on her build, I predict firm middle-pack Tier 2. Nothing more, nothing less.
I guess it depends on how you define success. After her inaugural win (only copy in T32), she had zero T8s at either the following GPs and zero in T16 at the following SCG Classic. I suppose going 5-0 in a couple of MTGO Leagues is pretty good? And if you twist the numbers enough, she looks amazing! Let's see how the deck is positioned after SCG Dallas, which will be the last large Modern event until August. Without the help of future printings or some new tech on her build, I predict firm middle-pack Tier 2. Nothing more, nothing less.
No one is twisting any numbers, except perhaps the people who are groundlessly going after Nahiri. These are the facts:
-Nahiri was in 64% of all recorded Jeskai Control decks in the May metagame sample.
-Jeskai Control was the second most-played paper deck during the entire month of May after only Jund.
-Jeskai's Day 2 GP share was the third-highest after Affinity and Abzan Company.
-Jeskai's Top 32 GP share was the second-highest after Affinity, exceeding its Day 2 share by 1.3%.
-Jeskai's Top 16 GP share was the fifth-highest after Jund, Infect, Affinity, and Abzan Company, falling short of its Day 2 share by .5%.
-The highest-finishing Jeskai list missed T8 by .018 on breakers.
There has never been a deck in the history of Modern that has those kinds of numbers and was not a Tier 1 deck-to-beat during that period of metagame data. It's not like we're spinning a 3% Day 2 share into a 6% Top 32 share as some top-tier conversion rate. Jeskai is just firing on all cylinders and is performing as good or better than almost all other Tier 1 decks, notably Burn, Infect, Tron, and Abzan Company. I am baffled why people just, for lack of better terms, dislike her so much. It's like people are actively trying to argue against her at every turn they get. This either comes from a place of misinformation or hidden motives.
Based on this, Nahiri is likely to hold value, especially after people stop opening Shadows packs. Her initial valuation at $40+ was absurd given Shadows' circulation. But when that ridiculous onset of hype settles, she'll stay valuable and that value will maintain past May.
While I wouldn't mind if Nahiri was more in the $20 range, I think it is a $30-$35 card all day long. I certainly wish I had gotten on board with her earlier, I have been quite happy trading for her at her current value.
I am baffled why people just, for lack of better terms, dislike her so much. It's like people are actively trying to argue against her at every turn they get. This either comes from a place of misinformation or hidden motives.
Perhaps it is a miscommunication in the definition of "results." Metrics and statistics and conversion rates are not "results." So hearing people say things like "Nahiri is still putting results" doesn't make sense, given every large event has shown zero "results" since her first and only top appearance in Indy. I own the deck in paper and online and played it quite a bit, so I guess I feel it strange to hear from people who don't even play the deck [not directed at you, just in general] how great it's supposed to be, even though it's not actually putting up any "results," and my personal experience has been luke warm at best.
While I wouldn't mind if Nahiri was more in the $20 range, I think it is a $30-$35 card all day long. I certainly wish I had gotten on board with her earlier, I have been quite happy trading for her at her current value.
You can get her as cheap as $22 on TCG Player and $23 on eBay.
You can get her as cheap as $22 on TCG Player and $23 on eBay.
Sure, but I primarily use Puca trade because I can't pump much money into magic right now. I have cards like Flusterstorm and TNN in binders that have never been played. Puca values seem high when compared with free market sites like TCG, but when you are able to get full retail (trade credit) for the cards you send others it all balances out. When I recently shipped my last Flusterstorm I got the equivalent of $63 for it (spent $2 or less on shipping), and it would be hard and tedious to do the same on EBay. That additional value that I got for my card makes up for the full retail value that the cards I want are priced at.
I don't see Nahiri being a mainstay in Modern but she sure was a nice fad for the last few months.
Can you name a card that enjoyed such a commanding month and then totally fell off the Modern radar? Jeskai Control was the second most-played deck in paper T8s this month after only Jund, and about 65%-70% of those lists used 3-4 Nahiri. Is there any Modern precedent to suggest a deck could post such numbers one month and then totally lose relevance later? Yes, her hype was overblown, but that's because we had ridiculous arguments like Tom Ross's about her being banned in six months. The more realistic hype, that she was a Tier 1 player, came true.
Given those circumstances, how can we call Nahiri a fad? This strikes me as unusually reactionary, out of dialogue with the evidence, and maybe even supporting some ulterior agenda. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but calling her a "fad" that will not stay a mainstay seems very misleading. I personally expect this card to stay valuable for some time to come.
I think it speaks volumes that this card is still seeing success at the height of grafdigger's cage being used to stop her.
Oh I see, that's another thing that helped Grafdigger's Cage blew up in price. I thought cage increased only because of the Collected Company decks, so Nahiri is also one reason for the increase.
I am baffled why people just, for lack of better terms, dislike her so much. It's like people are actively trying to argue against her at every turn they get. This either comes from a place of misinformation or hidden motives.
Perhaps it is a miscommunication in the definition of "results." Metrics and statistics and conversion rates are not "results." So hearing people say things like "Nahiri is still putting results" doesn't make sense, given every large event has shown zero "results" since her first and only top appearance in Indy. I own the deck in paper and online and played it quite a bit, so I guess I feel it strange to hear from people who don't even play the deck [not directed at you, just in general] how great it's supposed to be, even though it's not actually putting up any "results," and my personal experience has been luke warm at best.
You've told KTKen that you don't count his data as "results," but you neglected to define the term as you see it. What's your definition of "results?"
Also, just because you haven't had good experiences with the deck doesn't mean anything. We don't know whether you're an average, above average, or below average player or any other relevant information about your experiences. All we know is you loved Twin, have held a grudge ever since it got banned, and now you dislike/discount Nahiri. The actual field-wide stats are what actually tell the story here.
If you want both graveyards gone, Rest in Peace is better.
If you are fine with both graveyards being gone but only care about it at a specific point in time, Relic of Progenitus is better.
If you only care about persist/undying and flashback, Grafdigger's Cage is better.
Wheel seems more suited as anti-mill tech than anything else to me.
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Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
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I beg to differ, Wheel has no influence on cards already in the player's graveyard, is much harder to cast and it doesn't cantrip. Plus what everyone else said - everyone knows Relic, nobody knows Wheel.
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Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
I hope it gets reprinted somewhere soon, to lower the price a bit.....
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It does seem like a decent spec, but I want to point out that there is also a PR version. Both are pretty rare to find though. The card was $1 for years. I always wondered why, especially during Primeval Titan Standard.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I still feel like the card is super cheep at $7-8 ish dollars for how powerful it is.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)As a person who is generally not fond of foils and promos, I think the promo Valakut is stunning. I grabbed one a while back because it was going for about the same price and the other was sold out, and boy howdy was I impressed. Promos are a more select market, so I'm not sure it matters, but if I buy extras it will be those as long as the multiplier remains low.
I think the fact that it has historically only been a 2 of in Scapeshift and that Scapeshifft has been never been a predominant deck in tier 1 is what keeps it lower. Don't get me wrong. It's been a constant presence in the meta to one extent or another for a long time, and Sultai or BTL Scapeshift have been my favorite modern decks for almost as long, but it never saturated the way Grixis "Control" did.
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Sweet, time to unload my playset of nm/m foil promo versions. This is a card I was surprised to see at only 20 as well for the longest time, I figure it would have spiked again sooner honestly.
Years ago, when Zendikar and Rise of Eldrazi standard.. I was browsing binders at a shop. And Colonnades were there for only 250 pesos each - approximately 5 USD. Didn't buy them because I thought they were not strong. I regret that decision up to this day. :<
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Staffpretty sure I got rid of mine at 34 or 44 a month or two ago
the price is probably because of the popularity of Nahiri Jeskai
Hmm, well then I hope the hype on the nahiri decks would go down a bit.
Anyway, rechecked my order history at SCG. Got the Colonnade for exactly 14.99 at January 13, 2016. Moderately played, so it's extra cheap.
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I haven't looked at the price of this card in months. I got mine for $15 a piece a few months ago.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
I don't see Nahiri being a mainstay in Modern but she sure was a nice fad for the last few months.
Can you name a card that enjoyed such a commanding month and then totally fell off the Modern radar? Jeskai Control was the second most-played deck in paper T8s this month after only Jund, and about 65%-70% of those lists used 3-4 Nahiri. Is there any Modern precedent to suggest a deck could post such numbers one month and then totally lose relevance later? Yes, her hype was overblown, but that's because we had ridiculous arguments like Tom Ross's about her being banned in six months. The more realistic hype, that she was a Tier 1 player, came true.
Given those circumstances, how can we call Nahiri a fad? This strikes me as unusually reactionary, out of dialogue with the evidence, and maybe even supporting some ulterior agenda. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but calling her a "fad" that will not stay a mainstay seems very misleading. I personally expect this card to stay valuable for some time to come.
I think it speaks volumes that this card is still seeing success at the height of grafdigger's cage being used to stop her.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
I guess it depends on how you define success. After her inaugural win (only copy in T32), she had zero T8s at either the following GPs and zero in T16 at the following SCG Classic. I suppose going 5-0 in a couple of MTGO Leagues is pretty good? And if you twist the numbers enough, she looks amazing! Let's see how the deck is positioned after SCG Dallas, which will be the last large Modern event until August. Without the help of future printings or some new tech on her build, I predict firm middle-pack Tier 2. Nothing more, nothing less.
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No one is twisting any numbers, except perhaps the people who are groundlessly going after Nahiri. These are the facts:
-Nahiri was in 64% of all recorded Jeskai Control decks in the May metagame sample.
-Jeskai Control was the second most-played paper deck during the entire month of May after only Jund.
-Jeskai's Day 2 GP share was the third-highest after Affinity and Abzan Company.
-Jeskai's Top 32 GP share was the second-highest after Affinity, exceeding its Day 2 share by 1.3%.
-Jeskai's Top 16 GP share was the fifth-highest after Jund, Infect, Affinity, and Abzan Company, falling short of its Day 2 share by .5%.
-The highest-finishing Jeskai list missed T8 by .018 on breakers.
There has never been a deck in the history of Modern that has those kinds of numbers and was not a Tier 1 deck-to-beat during that period of metagame data. It's not like we're spinning a 3% Day 2 share into a 6% Top 32 share as some top-tier conversion rate. Jeskai is just firing on all cylinders and is performing as good or better than almost all other Tier 1 decks, notably Burn, Infect, Tron, and Abzan Company. I am baffled why people just, for lack of better terms, dislike her so much. It's like people are actively trying to argue against her at every turn they get. This either comes from a place of misinformation or hidden motives.
Based on this, Nahiri is likely to hold value, especially after people stop opening Shadows packs. Her initial valuation at $40+ was absurd given Shadows' circulation. But when that ridiculous onset of hype settles, she'll stay valuable and that value will maintain past May.
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Perhaps it is a miscommunication in the definition of "results." Metrics and statistics and conversion rates are not "results." So hearing people say things like "Nahiri is still putting results" doesn't make sense, given every large event has shown zero "results" since her first and only top appearance in Indy. I own the deck in paper and online and played it quite a bit, so I guess I feel it strange to hear from people who don't even play the deck [not directed at you, just in general] how great it's supposed to be, even though it's not actually putting up any "results," and my personal experience has been luke warm at best.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
You can get her as cheap as $22 on TCG Player and $23 on eBay.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Sure, but I primarily use Puca trade because I can't pump much money into magic right now. I have cards like Flusterstorm and TNN in binders that have never been played. Puca values seem high when compared with free market sites like TCG, but when you are able to get full retail (trade credit) for the cards you send others it all balances out. When I recently shipped my last Flusterstorm I got the equivalent of $63 for it (spent $2 or less on shipping), and it would be hard and tedious to do the same on EBay. That additional value that I got for my card makes up for the full retail value that the cards I want are priced at.
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Oh I see, that's another thing that helped Grafdigger's Cage blew up in price. I thought cage increased only because of the Collected Company decks, so Nahiri is also one reason for the increase.
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Also, just because you haven't had good experiences with the deck doesn't mean anything. We don't know whether you're an average, above average, or below average player or any other relevant information about your experiences. All we know is you loved Twin, have held a grudge ever since it got banned, and now you dislike/discount Nahiri. The actual field-wide stats are what actually tell the story here.
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero