He then went on to complain about rarity shifts, and limited focused, Modern Masters (and presumably Eternal Masters/Conspiracy 2 as well). I do think he is dead on about the limited first, reprints second being the wrong approach, the rarity shifts are a much harder thing to tackle. While it would be nice if Tarmogoyf would have been printed at rare in both MM13/15, it's prices would have crashed, and crashed hard. It was these kind of price crashes that hurt Magic in the past, so Wizards has opted to attempt to increase the supply slowly, bringing down the price slowly. They are attempting to appease both the collectors/investors and new players wanting to get into the format. He brings this up, but suddenly reprinting Force of Will at Uncommon and Goyf at Rare could have serious effects on LGSs and players, both in lost value, and lost confidence in the secondary market.
I forget which podcast I heard this on, but apparently no card printed after the Mythic era has received an upshift in rarity from Rare to Mythic. This was in regards to the hypothetical inclusion of Snapcaster Mage in Eternal Masters and whether or not he would be upshifted to Mythic. I believe they also said it was utterly ridiculous to see FoW at Mythic for any reason other than to retain high value, because from a limited perspective, it could have easily been a rare.
Thing is this isn't the first time they've upshifted rarity, though. Back when we went from 7th to 8th there was a change in rarity on many cards as well going from uncommon to rare. We've been seeing this happening before they ever had a mythic rarity. They will likely do the same thing they did to Aether Vial to a reprint of Inquisition of Kozilek, or removal cards that are good from what we've seen in standard right now.
A lot of woes in MTG stem from the fact that they designed the game around placing mechanically interactive cards in the rare and mythic slots. Then they unintentionally built a modern format that survives off of comboing different mechanically advanced strategies from different sets, putting the majority of the strain on rare and mythic cards. Then the designers see these cards, realize they are above the pay grade that they were aiming for, and refuse to resupply the cards in standard product for fear of going over the power level they set AND to avoid an overly expensive game for constructed.
The only reason the company doesn't do anything about the situation is that they have this card game as their only cash cow. They got other games, but none of them make ends meet like MtG, so the execs don't feel safe green lighting solutions. Then the rest of the company has to come up with plausible reasons they can feed to everyone sitting around wondering what is going on. They can sometimes get partial solutions out that may not shake the waters too much, like the change in block rotation and a dedicated modern masters / eternal masters, but unless Wizards finds another product that can make good money, I don't feel like they are going to risk "fixing" the dilemma for players of MtG.
It's the MMO cash cow / whale problem all over again. Only in a TCG...
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Modern shouldn't be a collector's format. If you want to invest look at legacy and vintage. Modern should be an easily accessible format where decks range from 100-400$ not what it is now where decks are rangine 600-2000$ in price. This means we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
People won't stay in standard if they can easily get into modern. Its that simple. Standard is where WotC makes its money off of mtg. Eternalish formats are the carrot on a stick WotC dangles to help keep you playing. Further, I'd like to see a standard deck that's competitive for under $100. I really doubt it exists. Having a childish reprint policy is not the way to preserve the game.
What WotC needs to do is expand the reserve list and branch out further.
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Affinity EDH W Akroma GBW Ghave BRU Thrax GR Ruric I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
Inquisition is really the only card you mentioned that is plane specific. The rest could easily be slotted into any plane and any plane with goblins, respectively.
we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
Inquisition is really the only card you mentioned that is plane specific. The rest could easily be slotted into any plane and any plane with goblins, respectively.
I don't see what you're saying... I mentioned a few cards that the playerbase MOST expected to be reprinted followed by "etc."
"etc." meaning others like:
Linvalla
Iona
Emrakul
Kor Spiritdancer
Kozilek
Ulamog
Vengevine
All is Dust
Wall of Omens
Celestial Colonnade
Raging Ravine
Creeping Tar Pit
Obviously I didn't expect all of these to be reprinted, but not a single one...? That is what I was saying.
Tarmogoyf's price didn't drop despite these reprints in Modern Masters since it wasn't reprinted in enough numbers.
The Future Sight version's price didn't change much, but you can get a MM or MM2 Tarmogoyf for $140, which is 25% cheaper than the Future Sight printing. That's significant.
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Yeah I honestly wouldn't look for another goyf reprint anytime soon. 25%-30% is a pretty big dip in value. Sure it's expensive still but more reprints could start to be dangerous, especially if the meta shifts in a hostile direction for goyf. That's something to remember. If goyf gets hated out of the format, there are gonna be a lot folks moving the card to the secondary market and with a drop in demand, supply will explode and value will tank.
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Affinity Legacy
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Burn
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Dredge
Affinity EDH W Akroma GBW Ghave BRU Thrax GR Ruric I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
Tarmogoyf's price didn't drop despite these reprints in Modern Masters since it wasn't reprinted in enough numbers.
The Future Sight version's price didn't change much, but you can get a MM or MM2 Tarmogoyf for $140, which is 25% cheaper than the Future Sight printing. That's significant.
This is a perfect example of why more reprints is not bad. The original Future Sight one is still pretty expensive and has not seen much of a dip because of its rarity and uniquness. But the new ones are cheaper and more accessible to players (not by much, but a measurable amount).
Tarmogoyf's price didn't drop despite these reprints in Modern Masters since it wasn't reprinted in enough numbers.
The Future Sight version's price didn't change much, but you can get a MM or MM2 Tarmogoyf for $140, which is 25% cheaper than the Future Sight printing. That's significant.
This is a perfect example of why more reprints is not bad. The original Future Sight one is still pretty expensive and has not seen much of a dip because of its rarity and uniquness. But the new ones are cheaper and more accessible to players (not by much, but a measurable amount).
In Europe, Future Sight Goyf is always cheaper than both MM and MM2 Goyf. Prices from MKM.
Interesting. I don't follow international price trends. I'd be curious to find out why that is.
Tarmogoyf's price didn't drop despite these reprints in Modern Masters since it wasn't reprinted in enough numbers.
The Future Sight version's price didn't change much, but you can get a MM or MM2 Tarmogoyf for $140, which is 25% cheaper than the Future Sight printing. That's significant.
First rule of buying cards: always buy cards that are currently in-print.
First exception to the first rule: never ever buy mythic rares from a Modern Masters set until the print run is long done.
we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
Inquisition is really the only card you mentioned that is plane specific. The rest could easily be slotted into any plane and any plane with goblins, respectively.
I don't see what you're saying... I mentioned a few cards that the playerbase MOST expected to be reprinted followed by "etc."
"etc." meaning others like:
Linvalla
Iona
Emrakul
Kor Spiritdancer
Kozilek
Ulamog
Vengevine
All is Dust
Wall of Omens
Celestial Colonnade
Raging Ravine
Creeping Tar Pit
Obviously I didn't expect all of these to be reprinted, but not a single one...? That is what I was saying.
Again, many of those are not plane specific, and I really don't understand people's belief that a return to the plane they first appeared in means we MUST see a reprint of them. For one thing, when have they ever reprinted a Legendary card? They basically always create a new version (which we got). It's disappointing to not see any of them, but it just makes no sense to me to expect them. If they reprint a lot of cards, that means they end up having to support the same mechanics and themes they did in the first block- Wizards is just not going to tie their hands like that.
we need aggressive reprints not conservative ones that don't do anything like printing Tarmogoyf at mythic rare in a limited print product.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
Inquisition is really the only card you mentioned that is plane specific. The rest could easily be slotted into any plane and any plane with goblins, respectively.
I don't see what you're saying... I mentioned a few cards that the playerbase MOST expected to be reprinted followed by "etc."
"etc." meaning others like:
Linvalla
Iona
Emrakul
Kor Spiritdancer
Kozilek
Ulamog
Vengevine
All is Dust
Wall of Omens
Celestial Colonnade
Raging Ravine
Creeping Tar Pit
Obviously I didn't expect all of these to be reprinted, but not a single one...? That is what I was saying.
Well, 5 of those are Legendary, we got a new cycle of manlands, and All is Dust DID get a reprint and fall hard... I just wanted Guide, but I could see him in any set really
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I'm thinking of building the WB Eldrazi and Taxes deck and have all the pieces besides the eldrazi but am in no hurry. With the recent ban is now the time to pick up Thought Knot Seers, Reality Smashers, Wasteland Stranglers and Eldrazi Displacers? Will their value ever go up from here down the road?
I'm thinking of building the WB Eldrazi and Taxes deck and have all the pieces besides the eldrazi but am in no hurry. With the recent ban is now the time to pick up Thought Knot Seers, Reality Smashers, Wasteland Stranglers and Eldrazi Displacers? Will their value ever go up from here down the road?
It would take another format breaking/defining deck using them to get the price back up, and I don't see that happening. Standard puts too many rares in play due to chase mythics. I doubt they will be going down significantly anytime soon either, though, so buy at your leisure.
Should I be investing in the Khans fetch lands right now?
I would (and did). I picked up most of them shortly after Khans was released and they hit rock bottom, but they are pretty low right now too. They have nowhere to go but up, and each extra penny I have right now is going towards stocking up. I have a playset of all KTK fetches to use, and an additional 2 playsets each of the blue ones (Delta and Strand) for future selling/trading.
Will enemy fetches spike if they aren't reprinted in Eternal Masters?
Within 10 minutes of MaRo's announcement that "enemy fetches will not be in Battle for Zendikar," every single one of them shot up 50% or more. Scalding Tarn went from about $45 to over $100 in 30 minutes, and it's taken nearly nine months for it to fall back down to the mid $70s (and that's also taking into account no tier 1 Modern deck has run Scalding Tarn since January). If you need them, pay very close attention to the EM spoilers. If it is announced that they won't be reprinted or if they are mathematically eliminated using the Number Crunch thread, buy them asap. Otherwise they will all spike again, and who knows when they'll actually print them. If they're announced specifically in that set, they should all fall by at least 30-40%, but still maintain more value than the new ones (like Onslaught fetches vs Khans).
Will enemy fetches spike if they aren't reprinted in Eternal Masters?
Within 10 minutes of MaRo's announcement that "enemy fetches will not be in Battle for Zendikar," every single one of them shot up 50% or more. Scalding Tarn went from about $45 to over $100 in 30 minutes, and it's taken nearly nine months for it to fall back down to the mid $70s (and that's also taking into account no tier 1 Modern deck has run Scalding Tarn since January). If you need them, pay very close attention to the EM spoilers. If it is announced that they won't be reprinted or if they are mathematically eliminated using the Number Crunch thread, buy them asap. Otherwise they will all spike again, and who knows when they'll actually print them. If they're announced specifically in that set, they should all fall by at least 30-40%, but still maintain more value than the new ones (like Onslaught fetches vs Khans).
God. You're right. People are so ridiculously stupid when it comes to this stuff.
Will enemy fetches spike if they aren't reprinted in Eternal Masters?
Within 10 minutes of MaRo's announcement that "enemy fetches will not be in Battle for Zendikar," every single one of them shot up 50% or more. Scalding Tarn went from about $45 to over $100 in 30 minutes, and it's taken nearly nine months for it to fall back down to the mid $70s (and that's also taking into account no tier 1 Modern deck has run Scalding Tarn since January). If you need them, pay very close attention to the EM spoilers. If it is announced that they won't be reprinted or if they are mathematically eliminated using the Number Crunch thread, buy them asap. Otherwise they will all spike again, and who knows when they'll actually print them. If they're announced specifically in that set, they should all fall by at least 30-40%, but still maintain more value than the new ones (like Onslaught fetches vs Khans).
God. You're right. People are so ridiculously stupid when it comes to this stuff.
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I only remember it so vividly because I still needed 2 more Tarns at the time. I saw the announcement on a facebook feed for some site (probably Goldfish), and immediately grabbed two more on eBay for $46 and $48 from two different sellers. When I checked back later on, thinking "maybe I should get more," they were all $100+ and I was like
I seriously doubt the enemy fetchlands will be printed with Eternal Masters, along with a bunch of juicy looking chase cards, it makes no sense, through a financial perspective view. They're going to print it in a standard set and milk the ***** out of it
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Thing is this isn't the first time they've upshifted rarity, though. Back when we went from 7th to 8th there was a change in rarity on many cards as well going from uncommon to rare. We've been seeing this happening before they ever had a mythic rarity. They will likely do the same thing they did to Aether Vial to a reprint of Inquisition of Kozilek, or removal cards that are good from what we've seen in standard right now.
A lot of woes in MTG stem from the fact that they designed the game around placing mechanically interactive cards in the rare and mythic slots. Then they unintentionally built a modern format that survives off of comboing different mechanically advanced strategies from different sets, putting the majority of the strain on rare and mythic cards. Then the designers see these cards, realize they are above the pay grade that they were aiming for, and refuse to resupply the cards in standard product for fear of going over the power level they set AND to avoid an overly expensive game for constructed.
The only reason the company doesn't do anything about the situation is that they have this card game as their only cash cow. They got other games, but none of them make ends meet like MtG, so the execs don't feel safe green lighting solutions. Then the rest of the company has to come up with plausible reasons they can feed to everyone sitting around wondering what is going on. They can sometimes get partial solutions out that may not shake the waters too much, like the change in block rotation and a dedicated modern masters / eternal masters, but unless Wizards finds another product that can make good money, I don't feel like they are going to risk "fixing" the dilemma for players of MtG.
It's the MMO cash cow / whale problem all over again. Only in a TCG...
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
What WotC needs to do is expand the reserve list and branch out further.
GB Rock
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RUG Delver Midrange
WU Monks
UW Tempo Geist
GW Bogle
GW Liege
UR Tron
B Vampires
Affinity
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Fish
Goblins
Burn
Reanimator
Dredge
Affinity
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W Akroma
GBW Ghave
BRU Thrax
GR Ruric
I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
Tarmogoyf has lost about 1/3 of its value over the past 3 years from these reprints... I wouldn't call that "not doing anything."
Instead of "crashing the prices" like some are foolishly suggesting, it would be better if Wizards would stay on top of the cards and reprint them when the opportunity presents itself. I could have sworn one of Wizards' reasonings for ditching core sets and going down to 2 sets per block was so they could revisit previous sets/blocks that needed "plane specific reprints." Well, what the heck was the point of returning to Zendikar if they aren't going to reprint Fetches, Goblin Guide, Inquisition, etc.
If we look at Goblin Guide's price history for example:
they had the chance of keeping it under $8 with MMA,
then the chance of keeping it under $15 with M15,
...$25 with MM2,
...$30 with Origins,
...$35 with BFZ/OGW...
But instead, now it sits over $40 with the hopes of it being in Eternal Masters as the only price resistance keeping it under $50.
Wizards could have easily kept the card under any of these price points, heck, the player base outright assumed it (look at the dips in price each aforementioned sets). But now we sit qued to jump over $50. There is no need to "crash the prices" and piss people off... They just need to get their collective heads out of the sand and reprint rising cards where they should be an obvious inclusion.
Inquisition is really the only card you mentioned that is plane specific. The rest could easily be slotted into any plane and any plane with goblins, respectively.
I don't see what you're saying... I mentioned a few cards that the playerbase MOST expected to be reprinted followed by "etc."
"etc." meaning others like:
Linvalla
Iona
Emrakul
Kor Spiritdancer
Kozilek
Ulamog
Vengevine
All is Dust
Wall of Omens
Celestial Colonnade
Raging Ravine
Creeping Tar Pit
Obviously I didn't expect all of these to be reprinted, but not a single one...? That is what I was saying.
The Future Sight version's price didn't change much, but you can get a MM or MM2 Tarmogoyf for $140, which is 25% cheaper than the Future Sight printing. That's significant.
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It was $210 around FRF/DTK (as high as $240 on SCG). Now its around $145.
GB Rock
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RUG Delver Midrange
WU Monks
UW Tempo Geist
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Affinity
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Fish
Goblins
Burn
Reanimator
Dredge
Affinity
EDH
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GBW Ghave
BRU Thrax
GR Ruric
I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
This is a perfect example of why more reprints is not bad. The original Future Sight one is still pretty expensive and has not seen much of a dip because of its rarity and uniquness. But the new ones are cheaper and more accessible to players (not by much, but a measurable amount).
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Interesting. I don't follow international price trends. I'd be curious to find out why that is.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
First rule of buying cards: always buy cards that are currently in-print.
First exception to the first rule: never ever buy mythic rares from a Modern Masters set until the print run is long done.
Again, many of those are not plane specific, and I really don't understand people's belief that a return to the plane they first appeared in means we MUST see a reprint of them. For one thing, when have they ever reprinted a Legendary card? They basically always create a new version (which we got). It's disappointing to not see any of them, but it just makes no sense to me to expect them. If they reprint a lot of cards, that means they end up having to support the same mechanics and themes they did in the first block- Wizards is just not going to tie their hands like that.
Well, 5 of those are Legendary, we got a new cycle of manlands, and All is Dust DID get a reprint and fall hard... I just wanted Guide, but I could see him in any set really
It would take another format breaking/defining deck using them to get the price back up, and I don't see that happening. Standard puts too many rares in play due to chase mythics. I doubt they will be going down significantly anytime soon either, though, so buy at your leisure.
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I would (and did). I picked up most of them shortly after Khans was released and they hit rock bottom, but they are pretty low right now too. They have nowhere to go but up, and each extra penny I have right now is going towards stocking up. I have a playset of all KTK fetches to use, and an additional 2 playsets each of the blue ones (Delta and Strand) for future selling/trading.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
RGTron
UGInfect
URStorm
WUBRAd Nauseam
BRGrishoalbrand
URGScapeshift
WBGAbzan Company
WUBRGAmulet Titan
BRGLiving End
WGBogles
I don't think so - the odds of such a ridiculously high value reprint being included in a product like that seems low to me.
Within 10 minutes of MaRo's announcement that "enemy fetches will not be in Battle for Zendikar," every single one of them shot up 50% or more. Scalding Tarn went from about $45 to over $100 in 30 minutes, and it's taken nearly nine months for it to fall back down to the mid $70s (and that's also taking into account no tier 1 Modern deck has run Scalding Tarn since January). If you need them, pay very close attention to the EM spoilers. If it is announced that they won't be reprinted or if they are mathematically eliminated using the Number Crunch thread, buy them asap. Otherwise they will all spike again, and who knows when they'll actually print them. If they're announced specifically in that set, they should all fall by at least 30-40%, but still maintain more value than the new ones (like Onslaught fetches vs Khans).
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Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
God. You're right. People are so ridiculously stupid when it comes to this stuff.
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I only remember it so vividly because I still needed 2 more Tarns at the time. I saw the announcement on a facebook feed for some site (probably Goldfish), and immediately grabbed two more on eBay for $46 and $48 from two different sellers. When I checked back later on, thinking "maybe I should get more," they were all $100+ and I was like
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate