Yep, although I feel that Manamorphose is more a victim of a buyout. That's what friends tell me at least.
Really? I could see maybe a foil buyout, but attempting a buyout on something that was printed at common/uncommon. Granted, those printings were Shadowmoor & MM13, but still a ballsy move nonetheless. I assumed that the spike was mostly organic demand until it was confirmed as a no-go in UMA; it's a 4-of in a ***** ton of established decks + the numerous flavors of phoenix brews. IMO, it would've spiked earlier than it did had it not been for uncertainty surrounding UMA; likely not to the extent that it did, but the demand is there. I was all but sure it would end up in UMA, especially once Bogle, Runed Halo, and all those random Shadowmoor reprints were being revealed; kicking myself for selling four sets of them anticipating I'd be able to pick them back up. Held onto my foils though, so that's a silver lining.
Any of you folks have some decent pics of UMA foils? The prices are right, if they are decent.
I cracked my customary three packs for a new set, so I'll snap some photos of the foils when I get an opportunity and link them. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I've heard a few different people mention how UMA was printed in Japan. I'm also not sure if that's any different compared to RTRTRTRTRavnica. However, I am sure that the quality of these are terrific; I forgot what it was like to crack a pack and shuffle through cards that have a quality feel to them. The difference in quality compared to recent sets is stark.
Yes, I've heard as much as well, and the foils for Battlebond are quite nice (imo) so I was hoping for good things here.
Guys please opinions on japanese cards. Lost a 3/3 creature against Japan celestial colonade. This guy played all creatures and spells in english cards, but some cards in his manabase was japanese. I dont registrated this really ( my brain say its all fine and all english to me lets attack his empty board)...and i am sure it is a Kind of legal cheating. It is not ok, but i know legal. I Hate such people. I never forget colonade normally, but with this Tricks it can happen one time in 3 years and such people take advantage of this
If I am a customer spending premium amount of dollars, I expect a premium service. Jund falls into the category of a premium deck costing more dollars than a majority of the rest of the format. I'm not getting the desired performance ratio per dollars spent out of the Jund deck because WOTC decided to make the format more diverse.
I'm frustrated to see how quickly Noble went back up already.
I mean Noble is still lower overall. But this is still week one of the reprint set. It's still being opened for drafts/sealed, boxes are showing up at people's doors from online orders, and based on the crowds I've seen at stores to get after this set, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw the mythics drop, then rebound a bit, then drop again towards the end of the month.
Ultimately though, the only reason it went back up is that tons of people bought copies between $35-40. It's in the mid 40s now on tcgplayer, which is tremendous compared to three months ago.
Yeah I would probably get in on those at $50 Canadian. Its still too high for a deck I'm not even playing really. Sick that a rare is holding that kind of price at this point, but Humans, Spirits, Infect, and anything GW Combo...its an in demand card.
Yep, although I feel that Manamorphose is more a victim of a buyout. That's what friends tell me at least.
Really? I could see maybe a foil buyout, but attempting a buyout on something that was printed at common/uncommon. Granted, those printings were Shadowmoor & MM13, but still a ballsy move nonetheless. I assumed that the spike was mostly organic demand until it was confirmed as a no-go in UMA; it's a 4-of in a ***** ton of established decks + the numerous flavors of phoenix brews. IMO, it would've spiked earlier than it did had it not been for uncertainty surrounding UMA; likely not to the extent that it did, but the demand is there. I was all but sure it would end up in UMA, especially once Bogle, Runed Halo, and all those random Shadowmoor reprints were being revealed; kicking myself for selling four sets of them anticipating I'd be able to pick them back up. Held onto my foils though, so that's a silver lining.
Any of you folks have some decent pics of UMA foils? The prices are right, if they are decent.
I cracked my customary three packs for a new set, so I'll snap some photos of the foils when I get an opportunity and link them. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I've heard a few different people mention how UMA was printed in Japan. I'm also not sure if that's any different compared to RTRTRTRTRavnica. However, I am sure that the quality of these are terrific; I forgot what it was like to crack a pack and shuffle through cards that have a quality feel to them. The difference in quality compared to recent sets is stark.
Yes, I've heard as much as well, and the foils for Battlebond are quite nice (imo) so I was hoping for good things here.
The Guild's Foils I have (Rav and Niv) are so so.
They are very nice. The foiling isn't super pronounced, but the art remains bright and vibrant (as opposed to the dull and dreary look of MM15).
FYI, I think there is a lot of panic buying that is causing some prices to flare up. We've seen this before on masters 25 and a few other sets lately since people forget that half the supply of the set is going strait into walmart draft packs. People are buying those draft packs like crazy in my area, so that's a lot of copies of stuff being thrown onto the market. Not to mention Games Plus by my workplace has several displays of Ultimate Masters set up for drafts and walk in customers. They are pricey as heck, though. Each booster pack being sold there is going for 14 dollars.
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2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I think it's okay. I can't imagine too many of the cards are going to bottom out anymore.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Well one of my two boxes just got refunded (ironically, the MORE expensive one of the two). Wish this had happened over the weekend so I could have dumped more money into the panic dip for singles. The panic dip is the BEST time to buy (and was the window I used to get foil Snapcasters and foil Tarns during MM17 release weekend). Now to see what else I'd like to pick up, I don't have another lottery box coming... Maybe just... another box? lol. There's nothing I really need from this set that I don't already have (or could stand to use more of, ala Commander), so anything I get would be either an investment, or just future-proofing myself. Goyfs? Nobles? Just pocket the refund?
Is it all right if I ask why the box got refunded (can reply by private message if you like)?
I have a friend in our play group that got 11 identical rares in 2 of his boxes (I mean, he did buy a lot!). Only 1 of those such rares was worth anything worth more than the pack, so if it is possible to get a refund, I'd like to let him know. I mean he's smarter than me, so he probably figured it out anyway...
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Is it all right if I ask why the box got refunded (can reply by private message if you like)?
I have a friend in our play group that got 11 identical rares in 2 of his boxes (I mean, he did buy a lot!). Only 1 of those such rares was worth anything worth more than the pack, so if it is possible to get a refund, I'd like to let him know. I mean he's smarter than me, so he probably figured it out anyway...
Seller claims pallet was damaged upon arrival. Feels shady overall, but who knows. This was a $285 box from way back before the $260 dip too, so maybe it's legit? Either way, there was total lack of communication until an service request was opened through eBay. Then I got the refund and a brief response less than 12 hours later. Though, even as of now (more than 24 hours later), the PayPal refund is still classified as "Pending," so who knows!
Huh, so we had the biggest spike in history with Magic the gathering after masters 25 got spoiled, and now the entire market is entering the worlds most epic bear market stage we've had in years. Probably because no one has any money left after wasting it all on the 300+ dollar boxes of complete randomness. And before anyone comments, I wasted my money, too, so this is not an accusation against OTHERS who have bought boxes.
... also my pulls were crap.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Huh, so we had the biggest spike in history with Magic the gathering after masters 25 got spoiled, and now the entire market is entering the worlds most epic bear market stage we've had in years. Probably because no one has any money left after wasting it all on the 300+ dollar boxes of complete randomness. And before anyone comments, I wasted my money, too, so this is not an accusation against OTHERS who have bought boxes.
... also my pulls were crap.
Hyperbolic much?
And "boxes of complete randomness" have been WotC's bread and butter for 25 years; what were you expecting this time around?
As soon as the first UMA reprints were revealed, anybody who typically sticks to buying singles creamed their pants. My list of reprint pick ups is getting longer by the day, however, I'm reluctant to pull the trigger until word starts to get around about just how large a print run we're looking at. Any given staple that was reprinted could either tank or spike tomorrow and it wouldn't be a surprise if it was a knee-jerk reaction in response to any info indicating the number of boxes in circulation/in the pipeline waiting to enter circulation.
I spent my money picking up Engineered Explosives. I picked up three normal copies ($22-25), a regular foil ($41) and a Box Topper ($56). Seems like a good place to be and snipped some great prices. This WILL be going back up.
Huh, so we had the biggest spike in history with Magic the gathering after masters 25 got spoiled, and now the entire market is entering the worlds most epic bear market stage we've had in years. Probably because no one has any money left after wasting it all on the 300+ dollar boxes of complete randomness. And before anyone comments, I wasted my money, too, so this is not an accusation against OTHERS who have bought boxes.
... also my pulls were crap.
Boxes were supposed to have crap, otherwise people can just keep buying to get the cash cards.
Still have some money left, because kept myself busy foiling out some of the cheaper cards in Ponza instead of buying UMA box.
Just waiting for the prices of singles from UMA to settle a little more before buying some.
Friend of mine opened a case and was pretty disappointed. I would steer clear of UMA unless you want to essentially pay $50-100 to open packs.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Congrats on the good box.
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Yes, I've heard as much as well, and the foils for Battlebond are quite nice (imo) so I was hoping for good things here.
The Guild's Foils I have (Rav and Niv) are so so.
Spirits
I kind of expected this for the format staples like hierarch and snap. High power-level, sees play in multiple decks, played in 4s. Yeap.
I mean Noble is still lower overall. But this is still week one of the reprint set. It's still being opened for drafts/sealed, boxes are showing up at people's doors from online orders, and based on the crowds I've seen at stores to get after this set, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw the mythics drop, then rebound a bit, then drop again towards the end of the month.
Ultimately though, the only reason it went back up is that tons of people bought copies between $35-40. It's in the mid 40s now on tcgplayer, which is tremendous compared to three months ago.
Spirits
They are very nice. The foiling isn't super pronounced, but the art remains bright and vibrant (as opposed to the dull and dreary look of MM15).
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
On the other hand, well now I have to pay out for the foils...
Spirits
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Spirits
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Spirits
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
I have a friend in our play group that got 11 identical rares in 2 of his boxes (I mean, he did buy a lot!). Only 1 of those such rares was worth anything worth more than the pack, so if it is possible to get a refund, I'd like to let him know. I mean he's smarter than me, so he probably figured it out anyway...
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Thanks to DNC from Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sig
Check my Pauper Cube!
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
... also my pulls were crap.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Hyperbolic much?
And "boxes of complete randomness" have been WotC's bread and butter for 25 years; what were you expecting this time around?
As soon as the first UMA reprints were revealed, anybody who typically sticks to buying singles creamed their pants. My list of reprint pick ups is getting longer by the day, however, I'm reluctant to pull the trigger until word starts to get around about just how large a print run we're looking at. Any given staple that was reprinted could either tank or spike tomorrow and it wouldn't be a surprise if it was a knee-jerk reaction in response to any info indicating the number of boxes in circulation/in the pipeline waiting to enter circulation.
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UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Spirits
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Boxes were supposed to have crap, otherwise people can just keep buying to get the cash cards.
Still have some money left, because kept myself busy foiling out some of the cheaper cards in Ponza instead of buying UMA box.
Just waiting for the prices of singles from UMA to settle a little more before buying some.
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Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Like any box, it could be amazing or it could be trash.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate