Lol what...is this guy doing anything? I've not once said 'oh no it's teeg'.
Legacy?
Teeg is a Kithkin Advisor... as long as he is in the battlefield, he will advise that you cannot summon Jace TMS, he will also tell you cannot cast 4 mana board wipes. Green white mages can hire Teeg for 2 mana, and a one time fee of 40 dollars. just kidding
From what I know, he also seems to be a sideboard card for Devoted Druid + Vizier combo decks, although that deck seems to be in decline right now.
I guess, but it doesnt seem to play out that way. Normally its 'GW - Absorb 1 Lightning Bolt' :]
That's why he's a house in Bogles; opponents naturally board out targeted removal after G1 and even if they keep 1 or 2 Bolts/Paths in G2/G3, we allow Kor Spiritdancer to be the sacrificial lamb & take the Bolt, and then Teeg is free to do his thing. Going back to the reasoning behind his price spike, the last few days worth of data strongly points to a renewed interest in Bogles as the catalyst:
Personally, I love that we've been moved back up into Tier 2, however, it's a double-edged sword b/c we'll never be a deck that can succeed in a well-prepared meta. I wanted to cry when I found out Aura Barbs existed...
WTH happened to Snapcaster Mage here in Canada??? It's now 93$ SP and 99$ NM on Face to Face. It was 79$ yesterday. It was like 53$ 2 months ago. I know, Jace and all, but this is serious spike...
Basically, the Jace unban made people want to play blue decks. Virtually all Jace decks also want at least a pair of Snapcaster Mages, and since the card was already fairly expensive, demand has shot up. Honestly, if you look at how things have gone since the unban announcement with various cards spiking, modern went from being the most affordable it had been in a long time to the exact opposite. Sure, the card initially spiked on the vendor side as people hoped to play up Jace hype into sales, but enough people are paying that the price isn't dropping.
From a financial perspective, these unbans really hurt a lot of people.
If A25 is DOA. Well maybe they look back at MM17 and reconsider.
We could quickly have Noble, Bob, Snaps, and Goyf all pushing towards $100. I'm stupid with money, but that's too rich for even my questionable judgement.
I think you misunderstood. Gaddock Teeg is used against Company decks. With so little removal, the card is as good as gold in these matchups, granted you get it by turn 2 or 3.
Regarding vs. Lightning Bolt decks. Usually Bogles can put such a deck on the back foot. Then when they tap low, Gaddock Teeg comes down with a Spider Umbra or maybe even more to put him out of reach. You'd be surprised how many Blue players draw Cryptic Commands off the top of their libraries late in the game. Also, if you are waiting every turn for a Gaddock Teeg to come down so you can Bolt it, you've probably already taken some amount of damage.
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i know this isnt the thread to talk about the strengths of various decks, but i figured it was worth commenting since we are talking about boggles cards rising in price.
hexproof is an obvious counter to jund, which people believe is going to be extremely popular in the coming days. what surprises me though is the influx of people wanting to pick it up. the deck has never been a force in the format for a reason.
it loses to itself a lot with nonfunctional draws. even more so if you start packing the deck full of things that arent hexproof creatures or auras to suit them up. i cant tell you how many times ive played against the deck and it just mulls itself into oblivion, or ends up having to just go all-in on a dryad arbor and fold to a single removal spell.
i dunno, maybe people are seeing something im not.
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If A25 is DOA. Well maybe they look back at MM17 and reconsider.
We could quickly have Noble, Bob, Snaps, and Goyf all pushing towards $100. I'm stupid with money, but that's too rich for even my questionable judgement.
I don't know how this is even going to work given how conservative they just played it on masters 25. It feels like they are trying to trickle out staples in the last two masters sets just to try and squeeze as much as they can out of the reprint worthy cards.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
i know this isnt the thread to talk about the strengths of various decks, but i figured it was worth commenting since we are talking about boggles cards rising in price.
hexproof is an obvious counter to jund, which people believe is going to be extremely popular in the coming days. what surprises me though is the influx of people wanting to pick it up. the deck has never been a force in the format for a reason.
it loses to itself a lot with nonfunctional draws. even more so if you start packing the deck full of things that arent hexproof creatures or auras to suit them up. i cant tell you how many times ive played against the deck and it just mulls itself into oblivion, or ends up having to just go all-in on a dryad arbor and fold to a single removal spell.
i dunno, maybe people are seeing something im not.
Dan Ward is proof that it can spike a tournament. He did not win every time he played Bogles at a Pro Tour or GP, but he eventually got one. When you sign up for certain decks, you have to take in the variance and thrive in it. There are times when you need to draw literally 1 Aura to win and you miss on 5 draw steps. There are times when you are trying to find another creature and you are not close to getting it. There are players that play these types of decks well and players who don't enjoy them at all. It goes with deck.
There are players who'd rather go 11-4 in 3 consecutive GPs with Jund. There are players who would like to not day 2 two of them, but win the other GP. It just depends on where your head is to be honest and EVERY deck has variance. I was a bit tired of variance, so I played "first 7 land drop every single game" Grixis Shadow to 2-1-1 on a Wednesday. How do you think that felt? There were 1 and 2 land keeps where honestly I probably should have been mana screwed, but ended up not missing a land drop. Of course fetching only minimalizes the chances of drawing another land, but I feel like I would have done the same thing, or else had fetches that literally just read Death's Shadow gets +1/+1 and delve creatures have 1 more card. Maybe it's just my experience as a Combo player, but when I play "consistent" decks, I believe I sign up to have some of the similar draws that I've seen my opponents have. When I play an inconsistent, but powerful deck, I realize that there are going to be times when variance is out of my control. Just like when you ran Jund or Jeskai and ran into 2 Trons in 5 rounds at your local tournament...
Bogles is also a super easy deck to play, but some players are realizing that the results can be a bit more satisfying if they play it tightly.
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I felt like trying some Scapeshift and then looked at the card price I traded those back in the day when Valakut was banned and partly because it seemed way too slow for the format. Too bad, winning games on the spot was the nuts and the floating fish art is godlike.
A Masters series reprint for the card looks quite likely but if it's mythic then the price is likely to stay.
i know this isnt the thread to talk about the strengths of various decks, but i figured it was worth commenting since we are talking about boggles cards rising in price.
hexproof is an obvious counter to jund, which people believe is going to be extremely popular in the coming days. what surprises me though is the influx of people wanting to pick it up. the deck has never been a force in the format for a reason.
it loses to itself a lot with nonfunctional draws. even more so if you start packing the deck full of things that arent hexproof creatures or auras to suit them up. i cant tell you how many times ive played against the deck and it just mulls itself into oblivion, or ends up having to just go all-in on a dryad arbor and fold to a single removal spell.
i dunno, maybe people are seeing something im not.
Dan Ward is proof that it can spike a tournament. He did not win every time he played Bogles at a Pro Tour or GP, but he eventually got one. When you sign up for certain decks, you have to take in the variance and thrive in it. There are times when you need to draw literally 1 Aura to win and you miss on 5 draw steps. There are times when you are trying to find another creature and you are not close to getting it. There are players that play these types of decks well and players who don't enjoy them at all. It goes with deck.
There are players who'd rather go 11-4 in 3 consecutive GPs with Jund. There are players who would like to not day 2 two of them, but win the other GP. It just depends on where your head is to be honest and EVERY deck has variance. I was a bit tired of variance, so I played "first 7 land drop every single game" Grixis Shadow to 2-1-1 on a Wednesday. How do you think that felt? There were 1 and 2 land keeps where honestly I probably should have been mana screwed, but ended up not missing a land drop. Of course fetching only minimalizes the chances of drawing another land, but I feel like I would have done the same thing, or else had fetches that literally just read Death's Shadow gets +1/+1 and delve creatures have 1 more card. Maybe it's just my experience as a Combo player, but when I play "consistent" decks, I believe I sign up to have some of the similar draws that I've seen my opponents have. When I play an inconsistent, but powerful deck, I realize that there are going to be times when variance is out of my control. Just like when you ran Jund or Jeskai and ran into 2 Trons in 5 rounds at your local tournament...
Bogles is also a super easy deck to play, but some players are realizing that the results can be a bit more satisfying if they play it tightly.
FCG nailed it; the deck has been around a while and still proves it can spike a tournament. Most pilots I'm familiar with know what they're getting into and don't expect the deck to be something it's not; certainly times when the best you can do is roll with the punches. I've had those games where ***** hit the fan and Dryad Arbor was my only out, but I also have a fortunate track record of winning a solid percentage of those games; it matters who's in the driver seat There are plenty of decks notorious for aggressive mulling and losing to silver bullets; they're not traits unique to the archetype. So tronix is correct, this isn't the proper place to undermine an established tier 2 deck, but FCG's response is an accurate insight into some of the driving forces behind renewed interest in the deck. Some amalgam of the current meta, Dan Ward crushing it at GP Toronto and Horizon Canopy coincidentally getting a long-overdue reprint just created a perfect storm.
I felt like trying some Scapeshift and then looked at the card price I traded those back in the day when Valakut was banned and partly because it seemed way too slow for the format. Too bad, winning games on the spot was the nuts and the floating fish art is godlike.
A Masters series reprint for the card looks quite likely but if it's mythic then the price is likely to stay.
I'm genuinely concerned about the future of the game right now as it stands. The problem I keep seeing year after year is that the company actively promotes modern, but just wants to use it for cash flow now and not really reprint the cards to get people playing the format. The fact they are switching to themes in masters sets suggests (to me at least) that they want to stop supporting modern as a format and just reprint high value cards where-ever they show up, regardless of the market demands. As can be seen with the last two masters sets, this isn't a very good plan. They also seem to be trying to play it safe and find any way they can keep themselves afloat, from trying to make as much money as they can on rotating staples via the challenger decks, to intentionally hamstringing the masters sets.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I was not keeping up on the price of this one... but Thrun, the last troll has always been a 19 -20 dollar card? If he spiked, I guess it might be because people wanted him as one more card to fight the Jace decks?
I was not keeping up on the price of this one... but Thrun, the last troll has always been a 19 -20 dollar card? If he spiked, I guess it might be because people wanted him as one more card to fight the Jace decks?
He's been $10 for the last couple years. I imagine he spiked because Ponza/Jund is now on the upswing and so is control so the decks that want him are up and the decks to run him against are up. Since he's a very specific card unlikely to see reprint I wouldn't be surprised to see people speccing on him.
I was not keeping up on the price of this one... but Thrun, the last troll has always been a 19 -20 dollar card? If he spiked, I guess it might be because people wanted him as one more card to fight the Jace decks?
He has been drifting up lately, I was seeing copies on TCG player for around. 10-12 USD in moderate condition around Christmas. Like Teeg, he hasn't seen a ton of copies and hasn't seen a ton of play. Ponza/elves/random green decks run him in the side as a one of from time to time.
I can see the $20 price tag paying off if your meta is infested with people jamming Jace into every shell imaginable over the next 12 months week after week. I don't think he's going to impact a larger tournament enough for me to bite though. He's just not as hard to get rid of as he used to be.
@colt47 - sometimes fnm wont fire and i worry about prices but other nights im playing against foiled out control and jund decks so i wonder sometimes if modern could actually cost more
I'm genuinely concerned about the future of the game right now as it stands. The problem I keep seeing year after year is that the company actively promotes modern, but just wants to use it for cash flow now and not really reprint the cards to get people playing the format. The fact they are switching to themes in masters sets suggests (to me at least) that they want to stop supporting modern as a format and just reprint high value cards where-ever they show up, regardless of the market demands. As can be seen with the last two masters sets, this isn't a very good plan. They also seem to be trying to play it safe and find any way they can keep themselves afloat, from trying to make as much money as they can on rotating staples via the challenger decks, to intentionally hamstringing the masters sets.
the issue i have with this viewpoint is that it implies that wizards trying to make money and making good decisions for the health of the game are mutually exclusive concepts. actively promoting modern, choosing to stop supporting modern, and finding any way to keep themselves afloat isnt exactly a coherent line of reasoning.
sure it could be some mixture of greed and incompetence; i have no doubt that they have played some partial role. however, as others are so eager to point out, they could simply fix so many things by doing X or Y. the fact that they arent indicates to me that there may just be factors that people arent considering, or are unaware of.
i choose to give them the benefit of the doubt. not because i think companies are immune to making stupid decisions, but because it has always been in their best interest to get things right.
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Suggesting that Wizards doesnt want to support Modern is laughable. Suggesting they are doing it wrong, is (when looking from the outside) not an unreasonable statement.
You dont have to look too far back to see a set done right (MM17) and to think that they will go back to that if A25 sucks financially, is not that much of a leap.
Wizards is plainly aware of the draw of Modern, they comment on it. They watch the numbers (as modest as Magic numbers are in the scheme of things) and know what 'the people' who are invested in Magic want to see.
The day they give up on Modern, is the day they have finished digging their grave, and decide to jump in.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
As long as people keep showing up (and they do to Modern) there is no issue in Wizards eyes. These cards have all spiked because people are buying them to play the decks.
If rare, and applications exist in Standard, considering the other formats hyping it I don't see how it stays under 10. Remember how everyone said Push would be 2 bucks.
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That's why he's a house in Bogles; opponents naturally board out targeted removal after G1 and even if they keep 1 or 2 Bolts/Paths in G2/G3, we allow Kor Spiritdancer to be the sacrificial lamb & take the Bolt, and then Teeg is free to do his thing. Going back to the reasoning behind his price spike, the last few days worth of data strongly points to a renewed interest in Bogles as the catalyst:
Daybreak Coronet up 106% on the week
The adorable bastard himself, Slippery Bogle, +15%
Hyena Umbra +12%
Canopy +10%
Leyline +10%
Personally, I love that we've been moved back up into Tier 2, however, it's a double-edged sword b/c we'll never be a deck that can succeed in a well-prepared meta. I wanted to cry when I found out Aura Barbs existed...
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Basically, the Jace unban made people want to play blue decks. Virtually all Jace decks also want at least a pair of Snapcaster Mages, and since the card was already fairly expensive, demand has shot up. Honestly, if you look at how things have gone since the unban announcement with various cards spiking, modern went from being the most affordable it had been in a long time to the exact opposite. Sure, the card initially spiked on the vendor side as people hoped to play up Jace hype into sales, but enough people are paying that the price isn't dropping.
From a financial perspective, these unbans really hurt a lot of people.
Snaps at 100...jeez. next year Masters is going to be hugely important.
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If A25 is DOA. Well maybe they look back at MM17 and reconsider.
We could quickly have Noble, Bob, Snaps, and Goyf all pushing towards $100. I'm stupid with money, but that's too rich for even my questionable judgement.
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My mistake then. I'm a bit unfamiliar with the vizier decks.
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They're readily available on eBay in the low-$60s and TCG Player for mid-$60s. Must be something isolated to CA or a currency difference.
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Regarding vs. Lightning Bolt decks. Usually Bogles can put such a deck on the back foot. Then when they tap low, Gaddock Teeg comes down with a Spider Umbra or maybe even more to put him out of reach. You'd be surprised how many Blue players draw Cryptic Commands off the top of their libraries late in the game. Also, if you are waiting every turn for a Gaddock Teeg to come down so you can Bolt it, you've probably already taken some amount of damage.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)hexproof is an obvious counter to jund, which people believe is going to be extremely popular in the coming days. what surprises me though is the influx of people wanting to pick it up. the deck has never been a force in the format for a reason.
it loses to itself a lot with nonfunctional draws. even more so if you start packing the deck full of things that arent hexproof creatures or auras to suit them up. i cant tell you how many times ive played against the deck and it just mulls itself into oblivion, or ends up having to just go all-in on a dryad arbor and fold to a single removal spell.
i dunno, maybe people are seeing something im not.
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BURGrixis Death's Shadow
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WCDeath and Taxes(sold)I don't know how this is even going to work given how conservative they just played it on masters 25. It feels like they are trying to trickle out staples in the last two masters sets just to try and squeeze as much as they can out of the reprint worthy cards.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
They could put Goyf, Lily, Jace, Bob, Snaps, and Noble (was at Rare!) in a set, and they would all still push over $50, considerably so.
They have a good 2 or 3 printings in them, all of them.
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Dan Ward is proof that it can spike a tournament. He did not win every time he played Bogles at a Pro Tour or GP, but he eventually got one. When you sign up for certain decks, you have to take in the variance and thrive in it. There are times when you need to draw literally 1 Aura to win and you miss on 5 draw steps. There are times when you are trying to find another creature and you are not close to getting it. There are players that play these types of decks well and players who don't enjoy them at all. It goes with deck.
There are players who'd rather go 11-4 in 3 consecutive GPs with Jund. There are players who would like to not day 2 two of them, but win the other GP. It just depends on where your head is to be honest and EVERY deck has variance. I was a bit tired of variance, so I played "first 7 land drop every single game" Grixis Shadow to 2-1-1 on a Wednesday. How do you think that felt? There were 1 and 2 land keeps where honestly I probably should have been mana screwed, but ended up not missing a land drop. Of course fetching only minimalizes the chances of drawing another land, but I feel like I would have done the same thing, or else had fetches that literally just read Death's Shadow gets +1/+1 and delve creatures have 1 more card. Maybe it's just my experience as a Combo player, but when I play "consistent" decks, I believe I sign up to have some of the similar draws that I've seen my opponents have. When I play an inconsistent, but powerful deck, I realize that there are going to be times when variance is out of my control. Just like when you ran Jund or Jeskai and ran into 2 Trons in 5 rounds at your local tournament...
Bogles is also a super easy deck to play, but some players are realizing that the results can be a bit more satisfying if they play it tightly.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)A Masters series reprint for the card looks quite likely but if it's mythic then the price is likely to stay.
FCG nailed it; the deck has been around a while and still proves it can spike a tournament. Most pilots I'm familiar with know what they're getting into and don't expect the deck to be something it's not; certainly times when the best you can do is roll with the punches. I've had those games where ***** hit the fan and Dryad Arbor was my only out, but I also have a fortunate track record of winning a solid percentage of those games; it matters who's in the driver seat There are plenty of decks notorious for aggressive mulling and losing to silver bullets; they're not traits unique to the archetype. So tronix is correct, this isn't the proper place to undermine an established tier 2 deck, but FCG's response is an accurate insight into some of the driving forces behind renewed interest in the deck. Some amalgam of the current meta, Dan Ward crushing it at GP Toronto and Horizon Canopy coincidentally getting a long-overdue reprint just created a perfect storm.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
I'm genuinely concerned about the future of the game right now as it stands. The problem I keep seeing year after year is that the company actively promotes modern, but just wants to use it for cash flow now and not really reprint the cards to get people playing the format. The fact they are switching to themes in masters sets suggests (to me at least) that they want to stop supporting modern as a format and just reprint high value cards where-ever they show up, regardless of the market demands. As can be seen with the last two masters sets, this isn't a very good plan. They also seem to be trying to play it safe and find any way they can keep themselves afloat, from trying to make as much money as they can on rotating staples via the challenger decks, to intentionally hamstringing the masters sets.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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He's been $10 for the last couple years. I imagine he spiked because Ponza/Jund is now on the upswing and so is control so the decks that want him are up and the decks to run him against are up. Since he's a very specific card unlikely to see reprint I wouldn't be surprised to see people speccing on him.
He has been drifting up lately, I was seeing copies on TCG player for around. 10-12 USD in moderate condition around Christmas. Like Teeg, he hasn't seen a ton of copies and hasn't seen a ton of play. Ponza/elves/random green decks run him in the side as a one of from time to time.
I can see the $20 price tag paying off if your meta is infested with people jamming Jace into every shell imaginable over the next 12 months week after week. I don't think he's going to impact a larger tournament enough for me to bite though. He's just not as hard to get rid of as he used to be.
the issue i have with this viewpoint is that it implies that wizards trying to make money and making good decisions for the health of the game are mutually exclusive concepts. actively promoting modern, choosing to stop supporting modern, and finding any way to keep themselves afloat isnt exactly a coherent line of reasoning.
sure it could be some mixture of greed and incompetence; i have no doubt that they have played some partial role. however, as others are so eager to point out, they could simply fix so many things by doing X or Y. the fact that they arent indicates to me that there may just be factors that people arent considering, or are unaware of.
i choose to give them the benefit of the doubt. not because i think companies are immune to making stupid decisions, but because it has always been in their best interest to get things right.
UWGSnow-Bant Control
BURGrixis Death's Shadow
GWBCoCo Elves
WCDeath and Taxes(sold)You dont have to look too far back to see a set done right (MM17) and to think that they will go back to that if A25 sucks financially, is not that much of a leap.
Wizards is plainly aware of the draw of Modern, they comment on it. They watch the numbers (as modest as Magic numbers are in the scheme of things) and know what 'the people' who are invested in Magic want to see.
The day they give up on Modern, is the day they have finished digging their grave, and decide to jump in.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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GWR Naya Zoo
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