Is now the best time to buy tarmogoyf or are they likely to go down in price even more?
If you can get them for less that $60, I'd do it. It's very unlikely they show up in the next two premium products, and even if they did it won't crash the price much from here. Goyf may be at its bottom right now. I wouldn't speculate on them, though. Just buy what you need. Fatal Push is still a card and until players figure out a way to neutralize it, Goyf won't be good again.
Goyf is still one of the best options at 2CMC. Fatal Push might have hurt its position in the metagame, but it's still a 4x in many mid-range or CoCo decks. The change in the Planeswalker rule might give a second wind to BGx decks, since they will be able to run both 3cmc Lilis at the same time.
That said, I agree with your conclusion: buy if you need them, don't speculate on them. The fan base of Magic is on a downward slope, due mostly to the many problems of standard and the changes in rotation alienating many young players. There is no guarantee Modern Staples will go up in price, since they we are also seeing more reprints.
Having survived like five "this is the end of magic" periods, I gotta say that's a little hyperbolic. Standard issues have largely passed, and the current format is being extolled by basically everyone. Modern is basically immune to those issues, as well.
Yeah Spine I think you missed the latest doomsaying period by a couple months. Although I'm sure there will be another one before too long.
I doubt that, since Chronicles was released in summer 1995 if i remember correctly
It was pretty close to that time.
I also quit Magic for the first time when Homelands came out. It seemed like a suuuuper crappy set and I didn't think Magic would have the longevity. That mixed with the fact that I needed to have my car's engine rebuilt so I could make it to college made it an easy option to sell out of Magic at the time. (Wish I could take that back...regret...regret...regret.)
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Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
At this point, I think Stoneforge Mystic is a pipedream. Would be a boost for Cheeri0s decks, maybe too much, which has to be taken into consideration as well.
best joke ever
Cheeri0s has already too much equipment, a tutor is useless
Not at all. A tutor allows them to run less equipments, and instead start running answers in the main for decks that cause problems.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Any idea why Emeria, the Sky Ruin went so up in price since the only Modern deck featuring it (1x) is Soul Sisters?
Gotta be EDH.
Its played in other decks too.
I don't know offhand but saffronolive runs it in value decks with flickerwisp, combo decks with saheeli rai, and uses it in other decks to recur ghost quarter, etc...
They aren't tier decks, but it still sees some play.
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big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
aaand...someone has bought every single TCG Direct copy of Opt . I just wanted a playset for TiTi. oh well, they will be back. I hope whoever did it just paled in horror as they realized it's a common in Ixalan. May they lose their butt on this.
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Project Booster Fun makes it less fun to open a booster.
aaand...someone has bought every single TCG Direct copy of Opt . I just wanted a playset for TiTi. oh well, they will be back. I hope whoever did it just paled in horror as they realized it's a common in Ixalan. May they lose their butt on this.
Same dude asking $5 for moderately played copy?
Why buy up the direct copies anyways? What's the benefit over say... then on-direct copies?
aaand...someone has bought every single TCG Direct copy of Opt . I just wanted a playset for TiTi. oh well, they will be back. I hope whoever did it just paled in horror as they realized it's a common in Ixalan. May they lose their butt on this.
Same dude asking $5 for moderately played copy?
Why buy up the direct copies anyways? What's the benefit over say... then on-direct copies?
most of the ebay copies were also bought out.
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pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
aaand...someone has bought every single TCG Direct copy of Opt . I just wanted a playset for TiTi. oh well, they will be back. I hope whoever did it just paled in horror as they realized it's a common in Ixalan. May they lose their butt on this.
I tried to buy opts months ago. There were very scarce then, and no foils at all. I ended up only getting one copy at the time so I suspect the scarcity predates today's announcement.
Do people have bots buying on these services? I wonder if buyers had bots set to "Buy any Foo that hits the market at $Bar or less" and the reprint announcement caused vendors to pre-emptively drop prices which caused bot autobuys.
aaand...someone has bought every single TCG Direct copy of Opt . I just wanted a playset for TiTi. oh well, they will be back. I hope whoever did it just paled in horror as they realized it's a common in Ixalan. May they lose their butt on this.
Same dude asking $5 for moderately played copy?
Why buy up the direct copies anyways? What's the benefit over say... then on-direct copies?
most of the ebay copies were also bought out.
It's a common. They're going to be everywhere.
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WoTC, thank you for finally announcing the Modern format, an eternal format where everyone can participate.
You should have at least a playset. If you want more for investment, it is up to you.
The current price should be acceptable.
I'm asking whether to ditch it, seeing as it rotates out in 3 weeks. No idea why I should have a playset.
Sorry I do not read your words carefully.
If you want to sell it, this is not a good time to do it because of the rotation. Better to keep them for another year in order to sell it with a better price tag.
Personally I would keep a playset for my Modern decks.
I'm keeping 2 Kalitas for Modern: I doubt I would ever play more.
That said, this is a terrible time to sell them: it is at the lowest it has been since release. It will continue to go down for at least 6 months to a year, then it should start increasing again. It's a Mythic in a small set: they are always rarer than other cards.
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
Have noticed that Scalding Tarn is slowly rising up in price again. Is this because of the continued presence of Grixis Death Shadow decks in tier 1? Or caused by something else?
Yeah Spine I think you missed the latest doomsaying period by a couple months. Although I'm sure there will be another one before too long.
I went through this in 1996, when I sold all my cards for peanuts, including a lot of power 9, etc. I guessed wrong.
Was that when they released Chronicles?
Modern Decks:
UBG Lantern Control GBU
BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks
UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU
BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
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It was pretty close to that time.
I also quit Magic for the first time when Homelands came out. It seemed like a suuuuper crappy set and I didn't think Magic would have the longevity. That mixed with the fact that I needed to have my car's engine rebuilt so I could make it to college made it an easy option to sell out of Magic at the time. (Wish I could take that back...regret...regret...regret.)
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)I don't think you understand Cheerios at all if you think they would have any interest in running Stoneforge Mystic.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
It's absolutely nuts with The Scarab God Commander deck, but doesn't see play really anywhere else.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Its played in other decks too.
I don't know offhand but saffronolive runs it in value decks with flickerwisp, combo decks with saheeli rai, and uses it in other decks to recur ghost quarter, etc...
They aren't tier decks, but it still sees some play.
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Same dude asking $5 for moderately played copy?
Why buy up the direct copies anyways? What's the benefit over say... then on-direct copies?
most of the ebay copies were also bought out.
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
I tried to buy opts months ago. There were very scarce then, and no foils at all. I ended up only getting one copy at the time so I suspect the scarcity predates today's announcement.
It's a common. They're going to be everywhere.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
You should have at least a playset. If you want more for investment, it is up to you.
The current price should be acceptable.
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
I'm asking whether to ditch it, seeing as it rotates out in 3 weeks. No idea why I should have a playset.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Sorry I do not read your words carefully.
If you want to sell it, this is not a good time to do it because of the rotation. Better to keep them for another year in order to sell it with a better price tag.
Personally I would keep a playset for my Modern decks.
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
That said, this is a terrible time to sell them: it is at the lowest it has been since release. It will continue to go down for at least 6 months to a year, then it should start increasing again. It's a Mythic in a small set: they are always rarer than other cards.
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
“Homo homini lupus est.”
EDH. Vampire is one of the 4 decks this year.
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
The price spike seems crazy though.
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