So, what do you all think about Horizon Canopy? I have three regular ones and one expedition. Been playing it for 2 years, but just took the deck apart.
My gut feeling says that it's due for a reprint and that it will probably crash quite a bit if it happens. Is it the right time to sell? I'm probably keeping the expedition (feels like a safer investment) but considering to sell the regular ones.
I think we can expect a reprint soon. That said, I got a good deal on one recently, picking up my second copy, a heavily played at $38. I'm a buyer at that price. If you aren't going to use them any time soon though, and you have some good condition ones I would sell out. If nothing else, you can buy back in on a HP copy if you need one. There's a huge spread on these for condition (or just keep the expedition I suppose)
So Scalding Tarn is still pretty high after the reprint. Is there any conceivable upcoming situation in which it could tank to a reasonable level?
Only thing that would cause it to drop is being reprinted in a Standard set or supplemental set that is print-to-demand. Though, because of the higher distribution of foils in Masters sets, if you want to splurge, the foils are at insanely good prices. While standard MM3 copies are still about $45-50, the foils have dropped considerably from over $175 for Zen foils down to about $75 for MM3 foils (which is what standard Zen copies were going for just a few months ago).
So Scalding Tarn is still pretty high after the reprint. Is there any conceivable upcoming situation in which it could tank to a reasonable level?
Only thing that would cause it to drop is being reprinted in a Standard set or supplemental set that is print-to-demand. Though, because of the higher distribution of foils in Masters sets, if you want to splurge, the foils are at insanely good prices. While standard MM3 copies are still about $45-50, the foils have dropped considerably from over $175 for Zen foils down to about $75 for MM3 foils (which is what standard Zen copies were going for just a few months ago).
Do keep in mind that the MM3 foils aren't as nice-looking as the Zendikar ones. More of a dull, matte finish.
So Scalding Tarn is still pretty high after the reprint. Is there any conceivable upcoming situation in which it could tank to a reasonable level?
Only thing that would cause it to drop is being reprinted in a Standard set or supplemental set that is print-to-demand. Though, because of the higher distribution of foils in Masters sets, if you want to splurge, the foils are at insanely good prices. While standard MM3 copies are still about $45-50, the foils have dropped considerably from over $175 for Zen foils down to about $75 for MM3 foils (which is what standard Zen copies were going for just a few months ago).
Do keep in mind that the MM3 foils aren't as nice-looking as the Zendikar ones. More of a dull, matte finish.
I personally think they look fantastic. At least as good as Khans foils. They're definitely not the best foil, but nowhere near as bad as the MM15 foils.
So, what do you all think about Horizon Canopy? I have three regular ones and one expedition. Been playing it for 2 years, but just took the deck apart.
My gut feeling says that it's due for a reprint and that it will probably crash quite a bit if it happens. Is it the right time to sell? I'm probably keeping the expedition (feels like a safer investment) but considering to sell the regular ones.
I think we can expect a reprint soon. That said, I got a good deal on one recently, picking up my second copy, a heavily played at $38. I'm a buyer at that price. If you aren't going to use them any time soon though, and you have some good condition ones I would sell out. If nothing else, you can buy back in on a HP copy if you need one. There's a huge spread on these for condition (or just keep the expedition I suppose)
It might not be this year, but they'll reprint that land soon. It's creeping up to the price point where Wizards usually slaps it down. Also, it's not unthinkable that they turn that land into a cycle for a expansion.
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WoTC, thank you for finally announcing the Modern format, an eternal format where everyone can participate.
So, what do you all think about Horizon Canopy? I have three regular ones and one expedition. Been playing it for 2 years, but just took the deck apart.
My gut feeling says that it's due for a reprint and that it will probably crash quite a bit if it happens. Is it the right time to sell? I'm probably keeping the expedition (feels like a safer investment) but considering to sell the regular ones.
I think we can expect a reprint soon. That said, I got a good deal on one recently, picking up my second copy, a heavily played at $38. I'm a buyer at that price. If you aren't going to use them any time soon though, and you have some good condition ones I would sell out. If nothing else, you can buy back in on a HP copy if you need one. There's a huge spread on these for condition (or just keep the expedition I suppose)
It might not be this year, but they'll reprint that land soon. It's creeping up to the price point where Wizards usually slaps it down. Also, it's not unthinkable that they turn that land into a cycle for a expansion.
I'm still bummed that I missed the window to snag a set for ~$100 when I was building Bogles, my first modern deck, when I got back into the game some 3-4 years ago. I held onto my collection, but stopped playing right before Time Spiral block, so I never got to open any Future Sight. I stopped into an LGS to pick up the remaining pieces and scoffed at Canopy's $30 price tag and decided to just substitute them out. A few months go by and I'm able to shake off the rust and realize how big the game/secondary market had gotten in my absence; walk back into the same LGS and there is Canopy sitting there with a whopping price tag of $65. Since then, I've been infatuated with the secondary market...for better or worse
Ok, no more memory lane. I've been holding onto hope for WoTC to complete the cycle, but it seems like a crapshoot at this point; it doesn't seem like anything that would fit into 'Iconic Master', but if Hasbro is gonna strong arm them into printing multiple Masters set in a year then I'd have to imagine we would see it reprinted sooner than later. Lately, I've stopped picking up singles to collect and have stuck to cards that I will either play now/in the near future and cheap modern/eternal specs. Aside from sealed product, I've gotten rid of a lot of my collection's value/non-RL staples and have been funneling everything into Power/Revised duals.
Affordable reprints in sets like MM17 are great, but Hasbro has gotten more and more comfortable re-printing ***** into the ground whenever they need a boost for their quarterly earnings report. Since I'm not a fan of losing hundreds of dollars whenever an unexpected spoiler surfaces, I've found it pretty hard to justify even keeping a collection of cards which I like, but don't play with. Has anybody else found themselves in a similar situation? I'm glad EDH continues to thrive as it gives me a reason to hold onto the essence of my collection, except rather than keeping play sets of cards, I can cut down to just one or two copies.
So, with her complete absence in the PT, do you guys think Lili last hope will go down from her $40 pedestal? She only sees serious play in BG delirium, which didn't make it to top 8, and in the top 8 she is only in Zombies SB and never appeared in front of the camera. I really wanna test her but i'm not paying 40 for a card that's simply not worth it.
I asked about ST because even the regular ones are outside my budget.
They're still pricey for sure, but at least $25-30 down per copy from what they used to be before MM17, and the cheapest they've been in nearly 2 years.
Ah, fair enough, that's better than expected. I heard IOK foils from Conspiracy go for quite a bit more than the MM17 ones for this exact reason, not sure how big the difference is in real life.
Ah, fair enough, that's better than expected. I heard IOK foils from Conspiracy go for quite a bit more than the MM17 ones for this exact reason, not sure how big the difference is in real life.
IOK was also a Rare in Conspiracy and an Uncommon in MM17. Combine that with the foil-in-every-pack packaging and there's a TON more MM17 foils in the market than Conspiracy. I haven't seen IOK foils in person for either though.
There's a problem with Foil Uncommons from MM17: the ink is slightly smeared. That's one of the reasons for the lower values of IoK and PtE foils in MM17, compared to other printings.
I'm curious as to why Mistbind Clique is seeing a trend upward. Is there a deck it's being used in outside of niche UB Faeries? I play faeries regularly and most people in our forum would agree that Mistbind isn't great right now.
I'm curious as to why Mistbind Clique is seeing a trend upward. Is there a deck it's being used in outside of niche UB Faeries? I play faeries regularly and most people in our forum would agree that Mistbind isn't great right now.
Probably because of a few articles written recently on UB Faerie decks.
There's a problem with Foil Uncommons from MM17: the ink is slightly smeared. That's one of the reasons for the lower values of IoK and PtE foils in MM17, compared to other printings.
For example:
Jesus! That's pretty serious.
On a different note: what do you guys reckon will happen to Bloodbraid Elf if/when it gets unbanned? It was reprinted in Planechase Anthology and EMA recently so there are tons of copies around (although I'm sure most people prefer the Planechase art)... will it go up at all? Just a bit? AKA should I get 16 copies?
There's a problem with Foil Uncommons from MM17: the ink is slightly smeared. That's one of the reasons for the lower values of IoK and PtE foils in MM17, compared to other printings.
For example:
Jesus! That's pretty serious.
On a different note: what do you guys reckon will happen to Bloodbraid Elf if/when it gets unbanned? It was reprinted in Planechase Anthology and EMA recently so there are tons of copies around (although I'm sure most people prefer the Planechase art)... will it go up at all? Just a bit? AKA should I get 16 copies?
1. The price will go up if it is unbanned, but not from $2 to $10 due to the recent reprints.
2. Getting 16 copies is not a big decision from my perspective. You only put $30 and the risk is so low.
3. If you want to make a larger profit, you should put your investment on Zen fetch lands, or SFM, or Jace.
Bloodbraid Elf will never be unbanned in Modern. Buy them if you want them and if you expect Legacy to adopt it for some reason, but I am certain that Wizards will never allow it to return. There's a couple articles on Modern Nexus about why, if you are interested: http://modernnexus.com/testing-bloodbraid-elf/
I'm curious as to why Mistbind Clique is seeing a trend upward. Is there a deck it's being used in outside of niche UB Faeries? I play faeries regularly and most people in our forum would agree that Mistbind isn't great right now.
Fae has become a flavor of the month deck. As someone who plays fae, it is decent right now with all of the storm/shadow decks running around but it folds to eldrazi tron really badly.
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Is the uptick in Fae decks partially why Cryptic Command seems to have gone up in price again recently? I could've sworn it was around the $18-$20 mark about a month or so ago? I don't know much about the deck but I can only assume it runs some number of Cryptics.
Is the uptick in Fae decks partially why Cryptic Command seems to have gone up in price again recently? I could've sworn it was around the $18-$20 mark about a month or so ago? I don't know much about the deck but I can only assume it runs some number of Cryptics.
Well that, and people seem convinced that UW Control is actually a good deck. Price spikes and jumps are often more about hype and perception than anything else.
Hey guys im building affinity and all i have left to purchase are arcbound ravagers and mox opals.
Currently arcbound ravagers sell for lightly played (which btw is usually always NM in my experience) for around 33$ give or take. On mtgstock i saw the price curve was around 18-20$ Around tarkir and spiked to 50$ at oath of the gatewatch and has now come down to low $30s. My questions is should i purchase my playset now or should I wait?
I dont want the price to raise on me again and i dont have the economic smarts nor the knowledge of the current state to predict whether or not to buy in now or wait a little longer.
What should I do?
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Hey guys im building affinity and all i have left to purchase are arcbound ravagers and mox opals.
Currently arcbound ravagers sell for lightly played (which btw is usually always NM in my experience) for around 33$ give or take. On mtgstock i saw the price curve was around 18-20$ Around tarkir and spiked to 50$ at oath of the gatewatch and has now come down to low $30s. My questions is should i purchase my playset now or should I wait?
I dont want the price to raise on me again and i dont have the economic smarts nor the knowledge of the current state to predict whether or not to buy in now or wait a little longer.
What should I do?
Ravager's price is pretty stable but you risk a lot more by waiting. It won't drop significantly any time soon (maybe by 5$ in a year, barring the unlikely scenario of a sudden and sustained hostile environment emerging), but if it does well in high-level events, it could be bought out and jump up to ~50. If you're sure you want to play the deck then you should always just jump on them now.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
Hey guys im building affinity and all i have left to purchase are arcbound ravagers and mox opals.
Currently arcbound ravagers sell for lightly played (which btw is usually always NM in my experience) for around 33$ give or take. On mtgstock i saw the price curve was around 18-20$ Around tarkir and spiked to 50$ at oath of the gatewatch and has now come down to low $30s. My questions is should i purchase my playset now or should I wait?
I dont want the price to raise on me again and i dont have the economic smarts nor the knowledge of the current state to predict whether or not to buy in now or wait a little longer.
What should I do?
Affinity is one of the cheapest decks in all of modern so I don't see why you are complaining about its price. If you like it, I would buy in.
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I think we can expect a reprint soon. That said, I got a good deal on one recently, picking up my second copy, a heavily played at $38. I'm a buyer at that price. If you aren't going to use them any time soon though, and you have some good condition ones I would sell out. If nothing else, you can buy back in on a HP copy if you need one. There's a huge spread on these for condition (or just keep the expedition I suppose)
Only thing that would cause it to drop is being reprinted in a Standard set or supplemental set that is print-to-demand. Though, because of the higher distribution of foils in Masters sets, if you want to splurge, the foils are at insanely good prices. While standard MM3 copies are still about $45-50, the foils have dropped considerably from over $175 for Zen foils down to about $75 for MM3 foils (which is what standard Zen copies were going for just a few months ago).
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Do keep in mind that the MM3 foils aren't as nice-looking as the Zendikar ones. More of a dull, matte finish.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
I personally think they look fantastic. At least as good as Khans foils. They're definitely not the best foil, but nowhere near as bad as the MM15 foils.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
It might not be this year, but they'll reprint that land soon. It's creeping up to the price point where Wizards usually slaps it down. Also, it's not unthinkable that they turn that land into a cycle for a expansion.
I'm still bummed that I missed the window to snag a set for ~$100 when I was building Bogles, my first modern deck, when I got back into the game some 3-4 years ago. I held onto my collection, but stopped playing right before Time Spiral block, so I never got to open any Future Sight. I stopped into an LGS to pick up the remaining pieces and scoffed at Canopy's $30 price tag and decided to just substitute them out. A few months go by and I'm able to shake off the rust and realize how big the game/secondary market had gotten in my absence; walk back into the same LGS and there is Canopy sitting there with a whopping price tag of $65. Since then, I've been infatuated with the secondary market...for better or worse
Ok, no more memory lane. I've been holding onto hope for WoTC to complete the cycle, but it seems like a crapshoot at this point; it doesn't seem like anything that would fit into 'Iconic Master', but if Hasbro is gonna strong arm them into printing multiple Masters set in a year then I'd have to imagine we would see it reprinted sooner than later. Lately, I've stopped picking up singles to collect and have stuck to cards that I will either play now/in the near future and cheap modern/eternal specs. Aside from sealed product, I've gotten rid of a lot of my collection's value/non-RL staples and have been funneling everything into Power/Revised duals.
Affordable reprints in sets like MM17 are great, but Hasbro has gotten more and more comfortable re-printing ***** into the ground whenever they need a boost for their quarterly earnings report. Since I'm not a fan of losing hundreds of dollars whenever an unexpected spoiler surfaces, I've found it pretty hard to justify even keeping a collection of cards which I like, but don't play with. Has anybody else found themselves in a similar situation? I'm glad EDH continues to thrive as it gives me a reason to hold onto the essence of my collection, except rather than keeping play sets of cards, I can cut down to just one or two copies.
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They're still pricey for sure, but at least $25-30 down per copy from what they used to be before MM17, and the cheapest they've been in nearly 2 years.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
IOK was also a Rare in Conspiracy and an Uncommon in MM17. Combine that with the foil-in-every-pack packaging and there's a TON more MM17 foils in the market than Conspiracy. I haven't seen IOK foils in person for either though.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
For example:
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
FULL TIME FAERIES
Jesus! That's pretty serious.
On a different note: what do you guys reckon will happen to Bloodbraid Elf if/when it gets unbanned? It was reprinted in Planechase Anthology and EMA recently so there are tons of copies around (although I'm sure most people prefer the Planechase art)... will it go up at all? Just a bit? AKA should I get 16 copies?
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
1. The price will go up if it is unbanned, but not from $2 to $10 due to the recent reprints.
2. Getting 16 copies is not a big decision from my perspective. You only put $30 and the risk is so low.
3. If you want to make a larger profit, you should put your investment on Zen fetch lands, or SFM, or Jace.
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
Fae has become a flavor of the month deck. As someone who plays fae, it is decent right now with all of the storm/shadow decks running around but it folds to eldrazi tron really badly.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)
Well that, and people seem convinced that UW Control is actually a good deck. Price spikes and jumps are often more about hype and perception than anything else.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
Currently arcbound ravagers sell for lightly played (which btw is usually always NM in my experience) for around 33$ give or take. On mtgstock i saw the price curve was around 18-20$ Around tarkir and spiked to 50$ at oath of the gatewatch and has now come down to low $30s. My questions is should i purchase my playset now or should I wait?
I dont want the price to raise on me again and i dont have the economic smarts nor the knowledge of the current state to predict whether or not to buy in now or wait a little longer.
What should I do?
RUAffinityUR
GMono Green StompyG
CEldrazi TronC
URWJeskai GeistWRU
WRBoros BurnRW
BRWMardu PyromancerWRB
Counter-Cat
Colorless Eldrazi Stompy
RUAffinityUR
GMono Green StompyG
CEldrazi TronC
URWJeskai GeistWRU
WRBoros BurnRW
BRWMardu PyromancerWRB
RUAffinityUR
GMono Green StompyG
CEldrazi TronC
URWJeskai GeistWRU
WRBoros BurnRW
BRWMardu PyromancerWRB
Nobody knows, and yes.
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
Affinity is one of the cheapest decks in all of modern so I don't see why you are complaining about its price. If you like it, I would buy in.
Decks I'm playing in Modern right now:
URB Grixis Reveler (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-grixis-reveler/)
UB Faeries (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/ub-fae-2/)
UW Azorious Control (http://www.mtgvault.com/supast4r7/decks/modern-ojutai-control-2/)