IDK. Push looks like one that could easily be dropped in a supplemental product to add immediate value to it. That said, barring reprints, yeah, up we go.
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Affinity Legacy
Fish
Goblins
Burn
Reanimator
Dredge
Affinity EDH W Akroma GBW Ghave BRU Thrax GR Ruric I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
Surgical Extraction is just simply one of the best sideboard cards in modern at the moment.
As foretold and Harsh Mentor don't excite me too much.
If Grixis Delver ever becomes a thing again (Young Pyromancer builds), Harsh Mentor could slot in as nice incidental damage. At least as something outside of the obvious Burn slots.
Thank goodness. It's one of the cards that I made sure I didn't bulk out. It will be interesting to see how the combo pans out with that 1G 2/2 from a newer set that you can "2G to search the top 3 cards for a creature and put it in your hand."
vizier of remedies just makes the card silly. Slap down a helix pinnacle, run coco and well...there you go. Glad I've been slowly collecting elf cards because this is a pleasant surprise that I'm on the right side of something for once.
And Abzan most definitely plays Gideon - I've seen him popping up in Legacy as well.
Yep, he's a 1-2 of in BW Tokens, 1-2 of in most Abzan Midrange, 2 of in legacy Death and Taxes sideboard, as well as additional places in modern, legacy, vintage, and sees a lot of edh play. $10 is definitely the lowest he'll ever get and I'd personally expect him to bottom out around $15
I think you'd still rather have a hurky's recall/shattering spree type of thing in the sideboard. I get that those decks like stuff like countersquall and molten rain, but the card reminds me of something like an ash zealot. either way, i don't see it hitting high prices.
Thank goodness. It's one of the cards that I made sure I didn't bulk out. It will be interesting to see how the combo pans out with that 1G 2/2 from a newer set that you can "2G to search the top 3 cards for a creature and put it in your hand."
vizier of remedies just makes the card silly. Slap down a helix pinnacle, run coco and well...there you go. Glad I've been slowly collecting elf cards because this is a pleasant surprise that I'm on the right side of something for once.
The first boxes I ever bought were shadowmoore/lorwyn. All the bulk cards are back at my parents place. I must have at least 5-10 of these just lying in the box lol. I'll probably end up going back home to visit next year...kind of excited to look through all of my bulk commons/uncommons that I left there (Lorwyn/Alara/Zendikar).
Thank goodness. It's one of the cards that I made sure I didn't bulk out. It will be interesting to see how the combo pans out with that 1G 2/2 from a newer set that you can "2G to search the top 3 cards for a creature and put it in your hand."
vizier of remedies just makes the card silly. Slap down a helix pinnacle, run coco and well...there you go. Glad I've been slowly collecting elf cards because this is a pleasant surprise that I'm on the right side of something for once.
The first boxes I ever bought were shadowmoore/lorwyn. All the bulk cards are back at my parents place. I must have at least 5-10 of these just lying in the box lol. I'll probably end up going back home to visit next year...kind of excited to look through all of my bulk commons/uncommons that I left there (Lorwyn/Alara/Zendikar).
Nice. I just have them because I played a LOT of Limited at the time since you could really make your DCI rating go up by winning in Limited. I ended up selling 6 of them for $3 each to a local shop today for store credit and then giving it to a friend for $18.
I hope you find some nice ones.
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Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/ Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Someone went in hard on the Bone Picker speculation. Already a 2$ uncommon from 25-50 cents. I wonder if it will continue to go up to Fatal Push levels. I guess that will largely depend on modern play and if it's really the new Delver of Secrets.
Why do you think that Surgical Extraction has skyrocketed in price? Also why the modern masters printing at that?
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
I was told about some Europe-based counterfeiter a couple months ago who is apparently printing cards with the foil sticker. IIRC, the cards fail some other basic anti-counterfeiting tests, fortunately, and the color is supposed to be off enough that they're easy to pick out. Still unsettling that the foil stamp is no longer a surefire protection though.
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
I was told about some Europe-based counterfeiter a couple months ago who is apparently printing cards with the foil sticker. IIRC, the cards fail some other basic anti-counterfeiting tests, fortunately, and the color is supposed to be off enough that they're easy to pick out. Still unsettling that the foil stamp is no longer a surefire protection though.
The same issue happens with paper money, and is why new anti-counterfeit methods are introduced every so often. Unfortunately, I don't know if they'll put the same effort into protecting cards as the US Treasury does for $100 bills, for example. But the hologram is at least a step in the right direction, and likely a reflection on why some MM15/MM17 copies of cards hold equal or higher value than their older counterparts.
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
I was told about some Europe-based counterfeiter a couple months ago who is apparently printing cards with the foil sticker. IIRC, the cards fail some other basic anti-counterfeiting tests, fortunately, and the color is supposed to be off enough that they're easy to pick out. Still unsettling that the foil stamp is no longer a surefire protection though.
I'd imagine that the hologram itself is off in some way as well.
Why is there a price difference in Surgical Extraction? SCG has MM15 for $25 and New Phyrexia for $23. TCGplayer has both versions at around $20. CFB has both at $20.
Mishra's Bauble also has a price difference. SCG has them at $50 and TCGplayer has the normal at $50 and the medium price at $45. CFB has slightly played versions at $30.
Quick question. I am making investments into a UW Control deck right now. HOWEVER, I want to go for a more Zendikar themed deck, so I am getting cards from that plane. I like foils and I only need to invest into lands right now. Should I move forward with getting foil Celestial Colonnades or expedition Hallowed Fountains. Currently I have one of each. I need 2 more Colonnades and one more Hallowed Fountain. Which one should I obtain/complete first? I don't NEED to buy them right now or any time soon, but I would like some thoughts as to what would be the more wise option.
Why do you think that Surgical Extraction has skyrocketed in price? Also why the modern masters printing at that?
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
AFAIK there are no counterfeit japanese language cards so for those of us who enjoy the foreign language cards we're pretty much in the clear (unless you've seen/heard differently). Another notch for foreign language cards over English
Why is there a price difference in Surgical Extraction? SCG has MM15 for $25 and New Phyrexia for $23. TCGplayer has both versions at around $20. CFB has both at $20.
Mishra's Bauble also has a price difference. SCG has them at $50 and TCGplayer has the normal at $50 and the medium price at $45. CFB has slightly played versions at $30.
Because SCG is a massive player in the secondary market and can swing their dick around to alter market values. Also, I'd assume that the players who feed into the machine by selling into the SCG buylist get store credit and, since there's only one play where that credit can be spent, they can force those players to pay those inflated prices.
Why do you think that Surgical Extraction has skyrocketed in price? Also why the modern masters printing at that?
As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
AFAIK there are no counterfeit japanese language cards so for those of us who enjoy the foreign language cards we're pretty much in the clear (unless you've seen/heard differently). Another notch for foreign language cards over English
Ehhh I remember reading somewhere that foreign counterfeits were more prevalent for certain languages. Particularly Chinese and Russian but I wouldn't rule out Japense. If you want a real safe bet buy moderately played because no counterfeitter is going to print played cards or play the cards into moderately played condition, and even if they did a lot times it will make it more noticeable that the cards are fake.
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern: DredgeVine EDH: Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Anima Standard:
Apologies for double post but is TCGplayer down for everyone else too? Cuz if it is that could have a big impact on prices if anyone picks now as the time to buy out something. I was just checking prices on through the breach since they went up on ebay, and TCG comes up as being updated for me.
I don't think it's an uncommon occurrence. I'll often check TCGplayer before work and I've noticed it being down quite a few times in the mornings; usually around like 6:30am EST. I usually just chalk it up to site maintenance or something.
Why is there a price difference in Surgical Extraction? SCG has MM15 for $25 and New Phyrexia for $23. TCGplayer has both versions at around $20. CFB has both at $20.
Mishra's Bauble also has a price difference. SCG has them at $50 and TCGplayer has the normal at $50 and the medium price at $45. CFB has slightly played versions at $30.
The latest deck that was presented to us by none other the saffron Olive is going to cause some spikes. If you want parts get them now, mtgo already had almost all the key components see spikes.
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern: DredgeVine EDH: Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Anima Standard:
The latest deck that was presented to us by none other the saffron Olive is going to cause some spikes. If you want parts get them now, mtgo already had almost all the key components see spikes.
Jimminy christmas; what's the brew this time? Nobody wants to believe Frontier was a shill format propagated by the big 4 titans of MTG secondary markets, but these Saffro builds spike prices overnight from a single video. Lucrative secondary market + zero to no regulations = almost guaranteed market manipulation.
GB Rock
U Flooding Merfolk
RUG Delver Midrange
WU Monks
UW Tempo Geist
GW Bogle
GW Liege
UR Tron
B Vampires
Affinity
Legacy
Fish
Goblins
Burn
Reanimator
Dredge
Affinity
EDH
W Akroma
GBW Ghave
BRU Thrax
GR Ruric
I advocate for the elimination of the combo archetype in Modern. I believe it is degenerate and unfun by its very nature and will always limit design space and cause unnecessary bans.
As foretold and Harsh Mentor don't excite me too much.
If Grixis Delver ever becomes a thing again (Young Pyromancer builds), Harsh Mentor could slot in as nice incidental damage. At least as something outside of the obvious Burn slots.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
vizier of remedies just makes the card silly. Slap down a helix pinnacle, run coco and well...there you go. Glad I've been slowly collecting elf cards because this is a pleasant surprise that I'm on the right side of something for once.
Yep, he's a 1-2 of in BW Tokens, 1-2 of in most Abzan Midrange, 2 of in legacy Death and Taxes sideboard, as well as additional places in modern, legacy, vintage, and sees a lot of edh play. $10 is definitely the lowest he'll ever get and I'd personally expect him to bottom out around $15
The first boxes I ever bought were shadowmoore/lorwyn. All the bulk cards are back at my parents place. I must have at least 5-10 of these just lying in the box lol. I'll probably end up going back home to visit next year...kind of excited to look through all of my bulk commons/uncommons that I left there (Lorwyn/Alara/Zendikar).
Nice. I just have them because I played a LOT of Limited at the time since you could really make your DCI rating go up by winning in Limited. I ended up selling 6 of them for $3 each to a local shop today for store credit and then giving it to a friend for $18.
I hope you find some nice ones.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)As someone already mentioned, it's seeing a ton of SB play in both Modern and Legacy. As far as why the MM15 version is more expensive, I'd personally chalk it up to the anti-counterfeit sticker. It's amazing how the quality of fakes has improved over the last couple of years; after receiving a counterfeit Serra's Sanctum, I've started using a jeweler's loupe on all high-end cards I get and if there are two versions of a card, one w/ the foil sticker, I'll pick that version up 9 times out of 10.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
I was told about some Europe-based counterfeiter a couple months ago who is apparently printing cards with the foil sticker. IIRC, the cards fail some other basic anti-counterfeiting tests, fortunately, and the color is supposed to be off enough that they're easy to pick out. Still unsettling that the foil stamp is no longer a surefire protection though.
BW BW Tokens
BUW Esper Shadow
BUR Grixis Shadow
The same issue happens with paper money, and is why new anti-counterfeit methods are introduced every so often. Unfortunately, I don't know if they'll put the same effort into protecting cards as the US Treasury does for $100 bills, for example. But the hologram is at least a step in the right direction, and likely a reflection on why some MM15/MM17 copies of cards hold equal or higher value than their older counterparts.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
I'd imagine that the hologram itself is off in some way as well.
Mishra's Bauble also has a price difference. SCG has them at $50 and TCGplayer has the normal at $50 and the medium price at $45. CFB has slightly played versions at $30.
AFAIK there are no counterfeit japanese language cards so for those of us who enjoy the foreign language cards we're pretty much in the clear (unless you've seen/heard differently). Another notch for foreign language cards over English
Because SCG is a massive player in the secondary market and can swing their dick around to alter market values. Also, I'd assume that the players who feed into the machine by selling into the SCG buylist get store credit and, since there's only one play where that credit can be spent, they can force those players to pay those inflated prices.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
Ehhh I remember reading somewhere that foreign counterfeits were more prevalent for certain languages. Particularly Chinese and Russian but I wouldn't rule out Japense. If you want a real safe bet buy moderately played because no counterfeitter is going to print played cards or play the cards into moderately played condition, and even if they did a lot times it will make it more noticeable that the cards are fake.
Modern:
EDH:
Standard:
Anyone, guys?
Abzan Traverse / Traverse Shadow / UR Kiki
I don't think it's an uncommon occurrence. I'll often check TCGplayer before work and I've noticed it being down quite a few times in the mornings; usually around like 6:30am EST. I usually just chalk it up to site maintenance or something.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.
Mishra's Bauble also has a price difference. SCG has them at $50 and TCGplayer has the normal at $50 and the medium price at $45. CFB has slightly played versions at $30.
Modern:
EDH:
Standard:
Jimminy christmas; what's the brew this time? Nobody wants to believe Frontier was a shill format propagated by the big 4 titans of MTG secondary markets, but these Saffro builds spike prices overnight from a single video. Lucrative secondary market + zero to no regulations = almost guaranteed market manipulation.
Link to Discord server where anybody from MTGS can keep up with thread topics while everything is being sorted out with the new site.