So far, the card with the most to lose is Snapcaster Mage, especially if it's reprinted at rare. But even though Snapcaster is likely on the box art, it's still not confirmed because the art is new.
Snapcaster Mage is a single Tier 1 blue deck away from going back to $60+ despite a reprint. It happened to Noble Hierarch and would absolutely happen to Snapcaster.
If he's in the set with the same art, all versions would tank at or slightly below ~$20 before settling back to the mid $30s. If he's got that new art, there will be split opinions on it (For example, I LOVE the original ISD art), and prices would reflect art changes with similar dips and returns, likely with the ISD holding more value. I think his value is much more dictated by a strong blue tier 1 presence than any reprints.
Good analysis, I agree. Snapcaster is one of the best cards in the format and sadly underused and undercosted
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Welcome to speculating? If it were 0 risk, everybody would do it.
I would say also that you never give up on specs. Many players where I live know me as the Sword of the Meek guy and to a lesser extent, the Ancestral Vision guy.
But they don't know that I bought nearly 60 copies of Steel Overseer for $2.50 each when it was in Standard. When they went up to $6, it wasn't worth it for me to sell. I sat on them for years before Modern Affinity pushed it to $16 at one point. Then I found my bulk box where I angrily had kept them after it tanked from Standard and sold most of them to my local store for $8 cash each.
Often, a card will go up at some time unless it is pure trash. Even then...
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So far, the card with the most to lose is Snapcaster Mage, especially if it's reprinted at rare. But even though Snapcaster is likely on the box art, it's still not confirmed because the art is new.
Snapcaster Mage is a single Tier 1 blue deck away from going back to $60+ despite a reprint. It happened to Noble Hierarch and would absolutely happen to Snapcaster.
If he's in the set with the same art, all versions would tank at or slightly below ~$20 before settling back to the mid $30s. If he's got that new art, there will be split opinions on it (For example, I LOVE the original ISD art), and prices would reflect art changes with similar dips and returns, likely with the ISD holding more value. I think his value is much more dictated by a strong blue tier 1 presence than any reprints.
Just to be clear, I was only saying that Snapcaster Mage was the only card revealed so far that has any room to "tank". The OP asked why Griselbrand, Domri Rade, and Stoic Angel hadn't tanked, and the honest answer is that most people aren't scrambling to sell their copies.
I agree with your analysis to an extent. Snapcaster is a great card, and it has the potential to see a lot of play for its relatively low price point. However, I want to point out that Snapcaster was printed in the same set as Liliana of the Veil, and based on the print runs of the set we know that there are twice as many Snapcasters in existence for every single copy of Liliana of the Veil. (They were both WMCQ qualifier promos too, but I'm going to ignore that.)
Interestingly, Liliana is about twice as expensive as Snapcaster, which is actually pretty reasonable, given a simplistic view of the economics. Both cards were printed in the same set, so we know that one is twice as common as the other. Both cards tend to be 4-ofs in their respective decks. The card with the smaller print run is twice as expensive as the other one.
I still agree with you that if Tier 1 blue deck ever exists, Snapcaster will go to go up in price. But it's actually comparably expensive with Liliana of the Veil, given its relative rarity.
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So far, the card with the most to lose is Snapcaster Mage, especially if it's reprinted at rare. But even though Snapcaster is likely on the box art, it's still not confirmed because the art is new.
Snapcaster Mage is a single Tier 1 blue deck away from going back to $60+ despite a reprint. It happened to Noble Hierarch and would absolutely happen to Snapcaster.
If he's in the set with the same art, all versions would tank at or slightly below ~$20 before settling back to the mid $30s. If he's got that new art, there will be split opinions on it (For example, I LOVE the original ISD art), and prices would reflect art changes with similar dips and returns, likely with the ISD holding more value. I think his value is much more dictated by a strong blue tier 1 presence than any reprints.
Good analysis, I agree. Snapcaster is one of the best cards in the format and sadly underused and undercosted
How is Snapcaster either of those things? The reactive blue decks that want Snapcaster are bad, which keeps people from playing him that much. His price tag correlates with that limited demand. Snapcaster is neither underplayed nor undercosted.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
He's underplayed and undercoated for what his power level is, and it's exactly as you stated, because reactive blue decks are bad.
Power levels can only exist in the content of a format, so no, he is not underplayed and undercosted. Snapcaster is bad in Modern (or the decks he fits into are bad in Modern), therefore he is as played as he deserves to be. Nobody wants him because he sucks so there is little demand, therefore he costs what he deserves to cost.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
He's underplayed and undercoated for what his power level is, and it's exactly as you stated, because reactive blue decks are bad.
Power levels can only exist in the content of a format, so no, he is not underplayed and undercosted. Snapcaster is bad in Modern (or the decks he fits into are bad in Modern), therefore he is as played as he deserves to be. Nobody wants him because he sucks so there is little demand, therefore he costs what he deserves to cost.
Ignoring the idea of power level in a vacuum vs. power level in-context isn't going to get this thread anywhere productive. The point is that Snapcaster in context is weaker than Snapcaster in a vacuum, and context changes. He was almost $100 in his heyday, and barring a (likely) reprint, he'll be worth even more if context shifts in his favor. Splitting hairs over the semantics of how that's conveyed is irrelevant to the price discussion.
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He's underplayed and undercoated for what his power level is, and it's exactly as you stated, because reactive blue decks are bad.
Power levels can only exist in the content of a format, so no, he is not underplayed and undercosted. Snapcaster is bad in Modern (or the decks he fits into are bad in Modern), therefore he is as played as he deserves to be. Nobody wants him because he sucks so there is little demand, therefore he costs what he deserves to cost.
Ignoring the idea of power level in a vacuum vs. power level in-context isn't going to get this thread anywhere productive. The point is that Snapcaster in context is weaker than Snapcaster in a vacuum, and context changes. He was almost $100 in his heyday, and barring a (likely) reprint, he'll be worth even more if context shifts in his favor. Splitting hairs over the semantics of how that's conveyed is irrelevant to the price discussion.
You can't have productivity without context, either---and "splitting hairs" in this way is productive to my goal. Claiming Snapcaster is "underpriced" flies in the face of simple supply and demand and reflects a larger trend of people in this thread making claims and asking statements without understanding this very basic and essential principle. I'd argue that most of the on-topic chaff in this thread results from that issue, so it's important to me to call out that chaff when I see it, in hopes that the thread becomes mores informative and useful for everyone.
Not to mention the idea of "power level in a vacuum." What is this?? What vacuum? Restoration Angel used to see tons of Modern play, is that card underpriced too? That's just not what the word "underpriced" means. The format shifts and card availability adjusts to accommodate those shifts. The only cards that are underpriced are cards that are due for a rise because they're being bought out (their supply is dwindling) and can currently be found for a price that is no longer indicative of what that card moves for in similar markets because of slowness by certain vendors to update their stock. Snapcaster Mage is not one of these cards.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
Snapcaster Mage is probably the single most powerful blue creature ever printed (honorable mention to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy). He does not need a specific deck to recognize that his individual ability of being able to cast a spell out of your graveyard at instant speed is an incredibly powerful effect. He is often one the most powerful elements of every deck running him and despite a low strength level of blue decks overall, Snap is still the 4th most played creature and 11th most played card in all of Modern. Considering his play value, abilities, and ubiquity in multiple formats in addition to Modern, I'd say he's pretty under-priced.
Snapcaster Mage is probably the single most powerful blue creature ever printed (honorable mention to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy). He does not need a specific deck to recognize that his individual ability of being able to cast a spell out of your graveyard at instant speed is an incredibly powerful effect. He is often one the most powerful elements of every deck running him and despite a low strength level of blue decks overall, Snap is still the 4th most played creature and 11th most played card in all of Modern. Considering his play value, abilities, and ubiquity in multiple formats in addition to Modern, I'd say he's pretty under-priced.
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the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
Snapcaster Mage is probably the single most powerful blue creature ever printed (honorable mention to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy). He does not need a specific deck to recognize that his individual ability of being able to cast a spell out of your graveyard at instant speed is an incredibly powerful effect. He is often one the most powerful elements of every deck running him and despite a low strength level of blue decks overall, Snap is still the 4th most played creature and 11th most played card in all of Modern. Considering his play value, abilities, and ubiquity in multiple formats in addition to Modern, I'd say he's pretty under-priced.
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The price does not represent his strength. The price represents the number of people selling vs number of people buying (availability vs growth). While there is usually a strong correlation between strength and demand, the relationship is not always a 100% causal. Which, at this point, feels more like an argument of semantics than anything else. I can agree to disagree moving forward though, because I think the disconnect in semantics is not necessarily productive to the discussion.
Snapcaster Mageis the best Blue creature ever printed (sorry Delver) and the best creature in Modern. I see both points from all parties and I do agree that it is semantics as long as both parties know that the current context and state of the format is super important to pricing.
For example, Mishra's Bauble should not be worth half of a Snapcaster Mage in theory. It should take at least 10 of them, but there's other factors in play. (current strong decks, set availability, reprints, upcoming reprints) I personally feel that each person posting here already knows this?
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Snapcaster Mage is probably the single most powerful blue creature ever printed (honorable mention to Jace, Vryn's Prodigy). He does not need a specific deck to recognize that his individual ability of being able to cast a spell out of your graveyard at instant speed is an incredibly powerful effect. He is often one the most powerful elements of every deck running him and despite a low strength level of blue decks overall, Snap is still the 4th most played creature and 11th most played card in all of Modern. Considering his play value, abilities, and ubiquity in multiple formats in addition to Modern, I'd say he's pretty under-priced.
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The price does not represent his strength. The price represents the number of people selling vs number of people buying (availability vs growth). While there is usually a strong correlation between strength and demand, the relationship is not always a 100% causal. Which, at this point, feels more like an argument of semantics than anything else. I can agree to disagree moving forward though, because I think the disconnect in semantics is not necessarily productive to the discussion.
But you do agree that the relationship here is casual, because you've said that Snapcaster is one Tier 1 blue deck away from being much more expensive. So why even make this argument and disagree with yourself? The price may not directly represent his strength, but as you said, his strength directly affects his demand, and his demand directly influences his price.
To you this may be about "semantics," but to me it's about calling out discussions on price that are totally meritless because they don't account for supply and demand. Claiming Snapcaster is "underpriced" falls into this trap. Semantics is a word thrown around enough in modern English to connote uselessness, but I've already outlined how this tangent is productive. Semantics is not always irrelevant.
Snapcaster Mageis the best Blue creature ever printed (sorry Delver) and the best creature in Modern. I see both points from all parties and I do agree that it is semantics as long as both parties know that the current context and state of the format is super important to pricing.
For example, Mishra's Bauble should not be worth half of a Snapcaster Mage in theory. It should take at least 10 of them, but there's other factors in play. (current strong decks, set availability, reprints, upcoming reprints) I personally feel that each person posting here already knows this?
Each person here knows what, that "Mishra's Bauble should not be worth half of a Snapcaster Mage in theory?" No, it absolutely should be. Which is why it is. What "theory" are you referring to? I'm referring to the theory of supply and demand, around which all constructive conversations regarding the price of goods in a market are necessarily based. Is there another theory I'm not aware of that we should be employing for this purpose?
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
Snappy IS actually priced right, the problem is that Bauble is overpriced. In a free market Baubles would be printed to demand, demand would lead to supply, as it will with the upcoming Snapcaster reprint. Price must be subject to demand, if there is very little demand and prices are higher than equivalent products because of low supply, it's overpriced.
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I'm all for supply and demand but to ignore the fact that snapcaster almost surely has the most potential to grow (other than unbanned cards) if a tier 1 reactive blue deck does enter the meta is dangerous from an investment perspective. He is appropriately coated RIGHT NOW, and always will be, but to project how that changes is the whole point of this thread.
I've had my play set for a long time and I prefer smaller specs like preordain personally but if I ever had any hope of playing a reactive blue deck in an eternal format I would be picking up my set in the next few months.
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I do not disagree that snapcaster is a powerful card, however just because he is powerful does not necessarily mean he should have a high price. Essentially modern has seen a decrease in blue decks over the past few months due to the increase in super fast decks such as zoo, shadow, dredge, and infect. Blue is primarily a control/combo color and snapcaster definitely has a place in these decks. In the past snapcaster had a very high price due to the popular decks that were in the format such as twin and UW delver which both saw bans that essentially killed the decks. The older modern also saw a lot more control variants including simic, American, and grixis. Grixis is really the only notable control deck in the format right now with American being much less popular than it was and simic being almost non-existent. Snapcaster still sees play in almost every single blue deck in modern, it's just that blue decks are not nearly as powerful in the format as they were in the year or so coming off of his time in standard. Most blue decks are fringe with a few being tier 1/2 and even in some of those he doesn't see consistent play (hit or miss in scapeshift(combo), not in merfolk(aggro)). He can be compared to cryptic command, which is arguably the best and most versatile spell for a control deck in modern. Cryptic has been creeping down over the past couple of months, not because it isn't good, but because control isn't the powerful type it has been in the past. Planeswalkers are also very powerful cards, but really none of them see too much play in modern because they can't be protected very well in the format. This does not mean they are not powerful, it just means they are not good in the format. I really don't thin can say he is underpriced, his price is determined by demand which mostly comes from modern. The statement that he underpriced gives the impression that there is an implication of a standard price for powerful cards which isn't the case. It also feels like saying that his price is somehow not at or near the equilibrium of supply and demand. If you view his price long-term and you feel that control will come back, or at least start seeing tier 1 decks again then I think that someone could say in their opinion he is underpriced but context is important. I can see him ending up hovering around 30-40 like bob. Both are the most played cards in their colors and they both are staples in certain archetypes (Bob-BGx, Snap-Ux control).
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Snappy IS actually priced right, the problem is that Bauble is overpriced. In a free market Baubles would be printed to demand, demand would lead to supply, as it will with the upcoming Snapcaster reprint. Price must be subject to demand, if there is very little demand and prices are higher than equivalent products because of low supply, it's overpriced.
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But this isn't a free market? Wizards alone has the power to reprint cards as they see fit, and they often pace reprints to make the most money. That's the opposite of a free market. Bauble is not overpriced; it costs what consumers are willing to shell out.
I'm all for supply and demand but to ignore the fact that snapcaster almost surely has the most potential to grow (other than unbanned cards) if a tier 1 reactive blue deck does enter the meta is dangerous from an investment perspective. He is appropriately coated RIGHT NOW, and always will be, but to project how that changes is the whole point of this thread.
I've had my play set for a long time and I prefer smaller specs like preordain personally but if I ever had any hope of playing a reactive blue deck in an eternal format I would be picking up my set in the next few months.
Pretty sure nobody is ignoring that fact. If a Tier 1 reactive blue deck does enter the metagame and Snapcaster's price stays the same, he will probably be underpriced for a very short window of time; that window will expire once people snatch up the existing copies and demand skyrockets. Cards are rarely priced based on hypothetical scenarios, though, especially after they've existed for awhile. They price according to supply and demand.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.
I think you also have to take into account availability. There are probably less Mishra's Baubles in the market than Snapcaster Mage both due to set age and print run. Add in the promo printing of Snap, the high chance that we'll be seeing a reprint with a new art, and the lack of a tier one deck running him, his price is low. What we are seeing is probably Snapcaster's floor, as Legacy demand will keep him as a pricey card. Snap has potential, and that will keep him out of the bulk bin.
The Bauble on the other hand will probably keep going up until it's reprinted. It's a free spell that draws. It's a weak enabler to many strategies aiming to fill their graveyard generically or with a diverse type. However, the Bauble has a much lower floor, and I don't think it's ceiling is near what Snapcaster's is. If reprinted at uncommon, even in a MM set, let alone a standard one, it's value would probably crash. Look at what happened to Mana Crypt or Karakas. One is a chase card for an entire format and can slot into every deck, and the other see's high level play both in main deck and in the side board of several decks. Both cards crashed in value once it's actual demand was met. The same would probably happen to Bauble.
Good analysis, I agree. Snapcaster is one of the best cards in the format and sadly underused and undercosted
I would say also that you never give up on specs. Many players where I live know me as the Sword of the Meek guy and to a lesser extent, the Ancestral Vision guy.
But they don't know that I bought nearly 60 copies of Steel Overseer for $2.50 each when it was in Standard. When they went up to $6, it wasn't worth it for me to sell. I sat on them for years before Modern Affinity pushed it to $16 at one point. Then I found my bulk box where I angrily had kept them after it tanked from Standard and sold most of them to my local store for $8 cash each.
Often, a card will go up at some time unless it is pure trash. Even then...
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I agree with your analysis to an extent. Snapcaster is a great card, and it has the potential to see a lot of play for its relatively low price point. However, I want to point out that Snapcaster was printed in the same set as Liliana of the Veil, and based on the print runs of the set we know that there are twice as many Snapcasters in existence for every single copy of Liliana of the Veil. (They were both WMCQ qualifier promos too, but I'm going to ignore that.)
Interestingly, Liliana is about twice as expensive as Snapcaster, which is actually pretty reasonable, given a simplistic view of the economics. Both cards were printed in the same set, so we know that one is twice as common as the other. Both cards tend to be 4-ofs in their respective decks. The card with the smaller print run is twice as expensive as the other one.
I still agree with you that if Tier 1 blue deck ever exists, Snapcaster will go to go up in price. But it's actually comparably expensive with Liliana of the Veil, given its relative rarity.
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Ignoring the idea of power level in a vacuum vs. power level in-context isn't going to get this thread anywhere productive. The point is that Snapcaster in context is weaker than Snapcaster in a vacuum, and context changes. He was almost $100 in his heyday, and barring a (likely) reprint, he'll be worth even more if context shifts in his favor. Splitting hairs over the semantics of how that's conveyed is irrelevant to the price discussion.
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In whar direction I can not predict. Goyf has been falling for very long. But a reprint yes/no will affect it.
You can look here. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Future Sight/Tarmogoyf#paper
If the reprint goyf and liliana in mm17 expected price on a display might press the price down.
Not to mention the idea of "power level in a vacuum." What is this?? What vacuum? Restoration Angel used to see tons of Modern play, is that card underpriced too? That's just not what the word "underpriced" means. The format shifts and card availability adjusts to accommodate those shifts. The only cards that are underpriced are cards that are due for a rise because they're being bought out (their supply is dwindling) and can currently be found for a price that is no longer indicative of what that card moves for in similar markets because of slowness by certain vendors to update their stock. Snapcaster Mage is not one of these cards.
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The price does not represent his strength. The price represents the number of people selling vs number of people buying (availability vs growth). While there is usually a strong correlation between strength and demand, the relationship is not always a 100% causal. Which, at this point, feels more like an argument of semantics than anything else. I can agree to disagree moving forward though, because I think the disconnect in semantics is not necessarily productive to the discussion.
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For example, Mishra's Bauble should not be worth half of a Snapcaster Mage in theory. It should take at least 10 of them, but there's other factors in play. (current strong decks, set availability, reprints, upcoming reprints) I personally feel that each person posting here already knows this?
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Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)To you this may be about "semantics," but to me it's about calling out discussions on price that are totally meritless because they don't account for supply and demand. Claiming Snapcaster is "underpriced" falls into this trap. Semantics is a word thrown around enough in modern English to connote uselessness, but I've already outlined how this tangent is productive. Semantics is not always irrelevant.Each person here knows what, that "Mishra's Bauble should not be worth half of a Snapcaster Mage in theory?" No, it absolutely should be. Which is why it is. What "theory" are you referring to? I'm referring to the theory of supply and demand, around which all constructive conversations regarding the price of goods in a market are necessarily based. Is there another theory I'm not aware of that we should be employing for this purpose?
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I hope I relayed that correctly from the economics professor in my Magic club, mistakes are from me, he had all these charts but I am not a math person
I've had my play set for a long time and I prefer smaller specs like preordain personally but if I ever had any hope of playing a reactive blue deck in an eternal format I would be picking up my set in the next few months.
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I do not disagree that snapcaster is a powerful card, however just because he is powerful does not necessarily mean he should have a high price. Essentially modern has seen a decrease in blue decks over the past few months due to the increase in super fast decks such as zoo, shadow, dredge, and infect. Blue is primarily a control/combo color and snapcaster definitely has a place in these decks. In the past snapcaster had a very high price due to the popular decks that were in the format such as twin and UW delver which both saw bans that essentially killed the decks. The older modern also saw a lot more control variants including simic, American, and grixis. Grixis is really the only notable control deck in the format right now with American being much less popular than it was and simic being almost non-existent. Snapcaster still sees play in almost every single blue deck in modern, it's just that blue decks are not nearly as powerful in the format as they were in the year or so coming off of his time in standard. Most blue decks are fringe with a few being tier 1/2 and even in some of those he doesn't see consistent play (hit or miss in scapeshift(combo), not in merfolk(aggro)). He can be compared to cryptic command, which is arguably the best and most versatile spell for a control deck in modern. Cryptic has been creeping down over the past couple of months, not because it isn't good, but because control isn't the powerful type it has been in the past. Planeswalkers are also very powerful cards, but really none of them see too much play in modern because they can't be protected very well in the format. This does not mean they are not powerful, it just means they are not good in the format. I really don't thin can say he is underpriced, his price is determined by demand which mostly comes from modern. The statement that he underpriced gives the impression that there is an implication of a standard price for powerful cards which isn't the case. It also feels like saying that his price is somehow not at or near the equilibrium of supply and demand. If you view his price long-term and you feel that control will come back, or at least start seeing tier 1 decks again then I think that someone could say in their opinion he is underpriced but context is important. I can see him ending up hovering around 30-40 like bob. Both are the most played cards in their colors and they both are staples in certain archetypes (Bob-BGx, Snap-Ux control).
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The Bauble on the other hand will probably keep going up until it's reprinted. It's a free spell that draws. It's a weak enabler to many strategies aiming to fill their graveyard generically or with a diverse type. However, the Bauble has a much lower floor, and I don't think it's ceiling is near what Snapcaster's is. If reprinted at uncommon, even in a MM set, let alone a standard one, it's value would probably crash. Look at what happened to Mana Crypt or Karakas. One is a chase card for an entire format and can slot into every deck, and the other see's high level play both in main deck and in the side board of several decks. Both cards crashed in value once it's actual demand was met. The same would probably happen to Bauble.
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