Has WotC ever made anything modern legal without printing it again? Do they have to print it in standard to put it in modern? Can't they just make an announcement that baleful strix is now modern legal? Would people be against this?
Has WotC ever made anything modern legal without printing it again? Do they have to print it in standard to put it in modern? Can't they just make an announcement that baleful strix is now modern legal? Would people be against this?
Modern is everything printed (or reprinted) from a certain set onward so as of right now no that has never happened. WotC could decide they will start including specific things in Modern, but it is extremely unlikely they would do so.
i am still hoping Pillage gets into the Modern card pool.
Kolaghan's Command is a thing anyways but it grants standard card pool a sideboard card. the closest deck that could use it in Modern is that R/G Ponza list and maybe Skred Red decks but Pillage isn't going to propel these decks to Tier 1 from their Tier 3 status.
-Baleful Strix...how bad would this mess with Standard on its way to Modern? My guess is too much, but this is also another great card people love.
I actually don't think Strix would be too bad for standard
Why do you think it would be a problem?
It would slot right into decks with Hostage Taker and The Scarab God. The synergies it would have with both, while allowing some great early game value, would be way too good.
It would slot right into decks with Hostage Taker and The Scarab God. The synergies it would have with both, while allowing some great early game value, would be way too good.
That's an argument for why it wouldn't be good in the current standard format, sure. However that isn't an argument for why it could never be good in Standard.
Standard as a format is kind of defined by it's creatures, and the format's ability to deal with creatures. A 1/1 Flying, Deathtouch creature would be good yes, but it is also very fragile, which balances it out for Standard playability.
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Oh sure; in and of itself, Baleful Strix is very good, but not broken. The current meta is completely bonkers for it, and will continue to be for a good while. Once the disgustingly powerful UB synergies rotate, it would be nice to see. It does feel like Wizards feels it's too risky to print through Standard, though I'd love to be wrong on this and see it in a few years.
Force Spike would be great, haha. Prohibit would certainly be fine in power level for Standard at some point.
Oh sure; in and of itself, Baleful Strix is very good, but not broken. The current meta is completely bonkers for it, and will continue to be for a good while. Once the disgustingly powerful UB synergies rotate, it would be nice to see. It does feel like Wizards feels it's too risky to print through Standard, though I'd love to be wrong on this and see it in a few years.
Force Spike would be great, haha. Prohibit would certainly be fine in power level for Standard at some point.
I certainly hope WotC printing Censor shows that they feel Force Spike may be fine in standard. Who knows, we may just have to forever deal with only having Mana Tithe.
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It might be a nice addition to modern, still 4 mana sources and 2 turns to destroy everything is pretty slow so it might not be good enough of an answer. Also, I do think there could be a standard that could handle this, but that is a debate for another format.
Thanks for the reply. It does seem a bit slow but it could be a turn 4 play in certain decks.
I'd love to see something like the following some day.
Genocide Machine 3
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When Genocide Machine enters the battlefield, name a creature type.
2 tap : Sacrifice Genocide Machine and put it in exile. Destroy all creatures of the named type.
Yes I know it would be a tribal hoser. But answers are getting overwhelmed by threats in my estimation. Just a thought.
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Probably will be in Return to Dominaria since they will need a hate card against tribal.
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It would help. But being just black makes it too narrow in my estimation and at just -1/-1 it might not kill anything with so many low cost lords floating around. Colorless to be played in all decks and strong specific hate is needed. E Plague just doesn't fit that bill, its too weak. But I like the specificity of the creature type for sure.
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Nether Spirit - It's fun for Deathcloud/Smallpox strategies. Maybe even BW Tokens. It wouldn't make any of those decks too powerful.
In the same spirit, the one mana cycle lands should come back to bring Life from the Loam decks back.
Mother of Runes - Having it strenghtens the right decks.
Phyrexian Tower - Allow for nice plays without being too powerful
Humility - We need better control decks.
Wild Growth - Will be used by nice linear decks.
Mother would be great but Humility and tower are on the reserved list. Utopia sprawl is also better then wild growth , Utopia Sprawl is the one that needs to reprinted should be a $5 common.
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
Mother would be great but Humility and tower are on the reserved list. Utopia sprawl is also better then wild growth , Utopia Sprawl is the one that needs to reprinted should be a $5 common.
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
Mother of Runes seems like a dangerous reprint now that Humans are doing well.
Most definitely correct. We don't need more cards that advance the fast threats, we need more and faster responses to those threats.
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It would help. But being just black makes it too narrow in my estimation and at just -1/-1 it might not kill anything with so many low cost lords floating around. Colorless to be played in all decks and strong specific hate is needed. E Plague just doesn't fit that bill, its too weak. But I like the specificity of the creature type for sure.
they could redo the card to be BB for the same effect. dark ritual is not a thing in modern or standard anymore... they should revisit these cards and retro fit them into the contemporary design...
Modern is everything printed (or reprinted) from a certain set onward so as of right now no that has never happened. WotC could decide they will start including specific things in Modern, but it is extremely unlikely they would do so.
I actually don't think Strix would be too bad for standard
Why do you think it would be a problem?
Modern Decks:
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Kolaghan's Command is a thing anyways but it grants standard card pool a sideboard card. the closest deck that could use it in Modern is that R/G Ponza list and maybe Skred Red decks but Pillage isn't going to propel these decks to Tier 1 from their Tier 3 status.
a safe reprint i feel.
and i can use my old Alliances ones finally
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None of them would be too strong for Modern. Counterspell/Strix might be too strong for Standard though.
That's an argument for why it wouldn't be good in the current standard format, sure. However that isn't an argument for why it could never be good in Standard.
Standard as a format is kind of defined by it's creatures, and the format's ability to deal with creatures. A 1/1 Flying, Deathtouch creature would be good yes, but it is also very fragile, which balances it out for Standard playability.
Modern Decks:
UBG Lantern Control GBU
BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks
UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU
BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
#PayThePros
Force Spike would be great, haha. Prohibit would certainly be fine in power level for Standard at some point.
I certainly hope WotC printing Censor shows that they feel Force Spike may be fine in standard. Who knows, we may just have to forever deal with only having Mana Tithe.
Modern Decks:
UBG Lantern Control GBU
BRG Bridge-Vine GRB
Commander Decks
UBG Muldrotha, Value Elemental GBU
BRG Windgrace Real-Estate Ltd. GRB
#PayThePros
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Yes, No, Maybe? Yep, it would have to be printed into Standard, where I guess it would be too strong I suppose.
Seems like the threats are far outpacing the responses in Modern and I see the trend continuing. Or just be happy with Oblivion Stone? Thoughts?
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I'd love to see something like the following some day.
Genocide Machine 3
Artifact
When Genocide Machine enters the battlefield, name a creature type.
2 tap : Sacrifice Genocide Machine and put it in exile. Destroy all creatures of the named type.
Yes I know it would be a tribal hoser. But answers are getting overwhelmed by threats in my estimation. Just a thought.
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Probably will be in Return to Dominaria since they will need a hate card against tribal.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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Mother would be great but Humility and tower are on the reserved list. Utopia sprawl is also better then wild growth , Utopia Sprawl is the one that needs to reprinted should be a $5 common.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Mother of Runes in Modern though.
I wonder if Crimson Acolyte or something similar would be fairer.
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Most definitely correct. We don't need more cards that advance the fast threats, we need more and faster responses to those threats.
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they could redo the card to be BB for the same effect. dark ritual is not a thing in modern or standard anymore... they should revisit these cards and retro fit them into the contemporary design...
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