would Dack Fayden be too strong for modern? -2 is strong, but his very few decks (Tron, Affinity, random batterskull maybe?), and +2 is good, especially in a grixis deck abusing delve. He sure feels pushed, but not necessarily to strong. Do you think wizards would consider bringing him to modern one day?
Veteran explorer would be a cool reprint too
He's perfect for modern ! I think he's right at the sweet spot of being strong, but not too much.
But as always, stupid standard gets in the way
That's also the single biggest problem for my two most wanted cards: Counterspell and Vindicate.
Modern needs generic answers so badly, it's a shame they are cluttered in the corner...
I want to mention Moment's Peace again, though I think it was already. I see it as a real powerhouse against Twin, Infect, Affinity and many more (Merfolk, Zoo and so on).
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PS: I would really like a reprint. Though G(?)Tron would probably be boosted too much by it. I already see mono green lists in my dreams.
I think this would mke for a great reprint in BFZ, but the only problem is the flashback. I can see the flavor being that there is a moment in between the battle with the Eldrazi where everything is calm...
new players as they show up maybe twice with some budget deck they've spent the week designing and testing only to be beaten into oblivion by expensive decks they cannot hope to obtain and I think this is a tragedy.
Diabolic Edict.
Why the hell hasn't it been reprinted at the time we got Doom Blade and Go for the Throat to make Terror feel self-concious, I don't know. But I doubt it'll get printed now that good removal is rare-only.
Modern has Geth's Verdict, though the 1{B} would be a bit better.
Yea with geth's verdict in modern don't think edict is really necessary. I like the effect being hard to achieve for three color decks.
There is one simple reason, why Therapy won't see a reprint: Dredge. I know, this might sound stupid, however, looking at the bans aimed at Dredge AND several statemenes from wizards, they never want to bother with Dredge in any PPTQ Format again. They hate this mechanic (same with storm). Hence I highly doubt, that it will ever see a reprint.
And those, who might think, that Therapy wouldn't be enough to make Dredge competative, you are wrong. Modern Dredge misses a good sac outlet, Thrapy would solve this problem (some others too).
However, I would love too see Therapy in Modern (same with a bunch of cards).
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I think all of these cards would benefit lower-tier decks in Modern without improving top-tier ones (at least, not by too much). I also think these cards improve decks that are fundamentally good for the format, such as policing decks like Death and Taxes and black-based control. Depending on the interest in this article, I might do some more like this to tackle other awesome reprints (Opt! Goblin Bombardment!) and to discuss some controversial reprint ideas with test results (Counterspell, Price of Progress).
as I said on the article, I'll volunteer to testing with counterspell. I won't volunteer to testing with price of progress, that spell is frickin' busted in half in modern, and if that gets reprinted You better believe i'll be glad I had already invested in foiling out legacy burn.
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I've tested out counterspell and daze in some of my modern decks already. My conclusion was that Daze is too powerful for modern. Even on turn 5, it was still effective, especially with another counter in your hand. A few of my opponents tried to force a Cryptic Command out of my hand, only to get salty when I dazed their counter. It would help delver drastically, as well as Scapeshift and any Grixis builds. Quite possibly even raise Scapeshift, too. I also feel that every deck would try to find a way to run daze, and that wouldn't make for a fun metagame.
Counterspell seems much more likely to be reprinted. it's UU, so it's pretty mana-intense for a two-drop. But, it'd also help out some t1-2 decks and make them stronger. And as much as i'd like to see counterspell reprinted, I'm pretty on the fence about it as well.
Just my $0.02.
Interesting article, Ktkenshinx. I hope you do some more in the future.
I agree that Mother of Runes would be a nice addition to modern, white is clearly the weakest color right now and having Mother would make white creature based strategies a little more competitive.
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White is far away from weak in Modern, the combinations with white (UWR Control for example) are doing bad right now. Thalia, Path to Exile, Kor Firewalker, Timely Reinforcements, Path to Exile (again), Anafenza, Restoration Angel, Aven Mindcensor, Path to Exile (hehe), Celestial Purge, Leyline of Sanctity etc
But Counterspell seems like a bad idea to me. It pushes Twin (even more than it is pushed already), Scapeshift and other blue based combo except for Bloom too much I guess.
And Cabal Therapy is flashbacked without paying mana. WotC never wants more such cards in Modern legal as I heard.
White is far away from weak in Modern, the combinations with white (UWR Control for example) are doing bad right now. Thalia, Path to Exile, Kor Firewalker, Timely Reinforcements, Path to Exile (again), Anafenza, Restoration Angel, Aven Mindcensor, Path to Exile (hehe), Celestial Purge, Leyline of Sanctity etc
White isn't weak but it is the weakest. Of the top 10 decks in modern white only shows up in Burn and even then it is only for 1 card and some SB stuff.
But Counterspell seems like a bad idea to me. It pushes Twin (even more than it is pushed already), Scapeshift and other blue based combo except for Bloom too much I guess.
Counterspell would be fine and I don't even think that Twin would play (m)any copies of the card, Remand is probably just better for them. If anything it gives combo decks something to fear from control decks if the game goes late. I do agree that it would give Scapeshift a push but given it is only ~1.8% of the meta at the moment I don't think that is a bad thing.
And Cabal Therapy is flashbacked without paying mana. WotC never wants more such cards in Modern legal as I heard.
I have heard mention of Therapy being put in INN before but it was pulled for some reason. I can't remember if that was to do with modern or some interaction in standard.
I completely agree with you about Dust Bowl and Armageddon being fine in modern however I don't think WotC will ever allow those cards in standard again (how I miss the days when we were allowed to play good cards in standard). Moment's Peace seems sweet though and I can't see any problem with it being reprinted.
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The problem with dredge is that it has trouble triggering bridge from below efficiently in modern. Mostly because it has trouble with the sack-outlet part. If you give it cabal therapy as an out to sack cards, all of a sudden you give them mainboard anti-hate, and the ability to do things like abuse gravecrawler, bloodghast, and narcomoeba to make tokens and push through damage. The real problem card is actually dread return, but cabal therapy is a huge power-up as is.
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You may or may not be right about Dredge being pushed over the edge by Cabal Therapy, but I'm not sure that Wizards would care too hard.
They have stated and demonstrated that Modern is of secondary concern. If they felt that Cabal Therapy would be good for Standard, they would probably print it, and if it broke stuff in Modern they could do retroactive bans.
Dredge in modern faces a lot of really strong hate-cards and does not have the speed to reliable fight back.
So if it would get a power-up , you would win quicker, but still lose game 2+ most of the time.
Cabal Therapy is a good card as it solves many problems and is a engine card to provide an easy sacrifice outlet.
The discard option gets better with Probe to see the hand , and if you can strip away a hate-card you are allready golden, especially as the flashback is pretty much free if you run Bloodghast / Gravecrawler and the like, so you could potentially hit the hate-cards and cripple them all at the same time, while setting yourself up with sacrifice outlets.
Cabal Therapy would be a pretty huge upgrade for Dredge, and one it would desperatly need to become a reasonable deck.
dread return transforms dredge in a pure combo deck, so thats why the card is out. As it is, dredge has much more sustain in all its creatures that come back for free or allmost free , but no matter what, graveyard hate is available and super powerfull, so the deck has an uphill fight game 2 and lacks the speed to ignore that.
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Ancestral Vision and Bloodbraid Elf are the cards i would totally unbann.
They had some great times, but currently theres so much stronger cards around, and i hardly see a deck play Bloodbraid Elf right now, even Jund doesnt need that card anymore.
A.Vision is a decent card draw , but any deck that wants filtering quickly cant really use it, and its horrible to get this card Remand. Cheating around to get it for free without suspend isnt really worth it.
But just assume we would get both. They "migth" spawn a blue/red/green deck or at least power such a Temur deck up to be more competitive. Currently the only green cards to consider in that kind of deck are goyf and some wacky zoo creatures ; as boring as it gets.
Sword of the meek would also be a reasonable unbann. Sure it works with the thopter foundry but absolute nothing about that is any stronger than the available win options.
And the format is now filled with artifact removal, even maindeck answers in Abrupt Decay, Kolaghan's Command, and even burn has its answers.
With graveyard and artifact removal combined, Sword of the Meek looks downright terrible to play , especially if you invest cards to tutor for it (Muddle is plain unplayable as a transmute tutor in modern right now).
I really question why they keep that card banned , they just dont bother i assume.
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I think a functional reprint of krosan wayfarer would be a nice addition to Modern. It would go a long way to boost a lot of tier 2-3 ramp decks, and doesn't easily slot in any existing tier 1 decks.
Swords to Plowshares is a card I've really wished to see a reprint especially when I was playing Junk as it would provide much better 1 cmc removal spell comparing to Path to Exile. White would finally get decent early removal with it.
You say this as if White doesn't have decent early removal. I'd argue that Path to Exile is already the best removal spell in the format... it's certainly the best 1-mana removal spell.
You may or may not be right about Dredge being pushed over the edge by Cabal Therapy, but I'm not sure that Wizards would care too hard.
They have stated and demonstrated that Modern is of secondary concern. If they felt that Cabal Therapy would be good for Standard, they would probably print it, and if it broke stuff in Modern they could do retroactive bans.
I don't think that's a bad thing though. If Cabal Therapy slotted into Standard well then I'm all for them reprinting it and keeping an eye on it in Modern. Standard sets are meant for Standard first.
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He's perfect for modern ! I think he's right at the sweet spot of being strong, but not too much.
But as always, stupid standard gets in the way
That's also the single biggest problem for my two most wanted cards: Counterspell and Vindicate.
Modern needs generic answers so badly, it's a shame they are cluttered in the corner...
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Yea with geth's verdict in modern don't think edict is really necessary. I like the effect being hard to achieve for three color decks.
Eh usually I'm conservative about power level but this strikes me as fine. Could be really cool too with the new lili.
And those, who might think, that Therapy wouldn't be enough to make Dredge competative, you are wrong. Modern Dredge misses a good sac outlet, Thrapy would solve this problem (some others too).
However, I would love too see Therapy in Modern (same with a bunch of cards).
Greetings,
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http://modernnexus.com/four-cards-wizards-should-reprint-for-modern/
My cards (in no particular order:
1. Innocent Blood
2. Baleful Strix
3. Tranquil Thicket and company
4. Mother of Runes
I think all of these cards would benefit lower-tier decks in Modern without improving top-tier ones (at least, not by too much). I also think these cards improve decks that are fundamentally good for the format, such as policing decks like Death and Taxes and black-based control. Depending on the interest in this article, I might do some more like this to tackle other awesome reprints (Opt! Goblin Bombardment!) and to discuss some controversial reprint ideas with test results (Counterspell, Price of Progress).
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Counterspell seems much more likely to be reprinted. it's UU, so it's pretty mana-intense for a two-drop. But, it'd also help out some t1-2 decks and make them stronger. And as much as i'd like to see counterspell reprinted, I'm pretty on the fence about it as well.
Just my $0.02.
Interesting article, Ktkenshinx. I hope you do some more in the future.
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But Counterspell seems like a bad idea to me. It pushes Twin (even more than it is pushed already), Scapeshift and other blue based combo except for Bloom too much I guess.
And Cabal Therapy is flashbacked without paying mana. WotC never wants more such cards in Modern legal as I heard.
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But Dust Bowl seems ok to me. My personal favourite (knowing I won't ever get it) is Armageddon beside Moment's Peace.
White isn't weak but it is the weakest. Of the top 10 decks in modern white only shows up in Burn and even then it is only for 1 card and some SB stuff.
Counterspell would be fine and I don't even think that Twin would play (m)any copies of the card, Remand is probably just better for them. If anything it gives combo decks something to fear from control decks if the game goes late. I do agree that it would give Scapeshift a push but given it is only ~1.8% of the meta at the moment I don't think that is a bad thing.
I have heard mention of Therapy being put in INN before but it was pulled for some reason. I can't remember if that was to do with modern or some interaction in standard.
I completely agree with you about Dust Bowl and Armageddon being fine in modern however I don't think WotC will ever allow those cards in standard again (how I miss the days when we were allowed to play good cards in standard). Moment's Peace seems sweet though and I can't see any problem with it being reprinted.
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They have stated and demonstrated that Modern is of secondary concern. If they felt that Cabal Therapy would be good for Standard, they would probably print it, and if it broke stuff in Modern they could do retroactive bans.
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So if it would get a power-up , you would win quicker, but still lose game 2+ most of the time.
Cabal Therapy is a good card as it solves many problems and is a engine card to provide an easy sacrifice outlet.
The discard option gets better with Probe to see the hand , and if you can strip away a hate-card you are allready golden, especially as the flashback is pretty much free if you run Bloodghast / Gravecrawler and the like, so you could potentially hit the hate-cards and cripple them all at the same time, while setting yourself up with sacrifice outlets.
Cabal Therapy would be a pretty huge upgrade for Dredge, and one it would desperatly need to become a reasonable deck.
dread return transforms dredge in a pure combo deck, so thats why the card is out. As it is, dredge has much more sustain in all its creatures that come back for free or allmost free , but no matter what, graveyard hate is available and super powerfull, so the deck has an uphill fight game 2 and lacks the speed to ignore that.
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Ancestral Vision and Bloodbraid Elf are the cards i would totally unbann.
They had some great times, but currently theres so much stronger cards around, and i hardly see a deck play Bloodbraid Elf right now, even Jund doesnt need that card anymore.
A.Vision is a decent card draw , but any deck that wants filtering quickly cant really use it, and its horrible to get this card Remand. Cheating around to get it for free without suspend isnt really worth it.
But just assume we would get both. They "migth" spawn a blue/red/green deck or at least power such a Temur deck up to be more competitive. Currently the only green cards to consider in that kind of deck are goyf and some wacky zoo creatures ; as boring as it gets.
Sword of the meek would also be a reasonable unbann. Sure it works with the thopter foundry but absolute nothing about that is any stronger than the available win options.
And the format is now filled with artifact removal, even maindeck answers in Abrupt Decay, Kolaghan's Command, and even burn has its answers.
With graveyard and artifact removal combined, Sword of the Meek looks downright terrible to play , especially if you invest cards to tutor for it (Muddle is plain unplayable as a transmute tutor in modern right now).
I really question why they keep that card banned , they just dont bother i assume.
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I don't think that's a bad thing though. If Cabal Therapy slotted into Standard well then I'm all for them reprinting it and keeping an eye on it in Modern. Standard sets are meant for Standard first.