MTG Salvation

I would love to see undermine reprinted could be a nice addition and open up the forgotten archetype of counterburn. Here's hoping something breaks loose in the next few sets that gives tempo/control a boost to help get another few types of top decks rolling out.

Tibalt, The Not Half-Bad RR

+1 discard a card, then draw a card
-2 deal 2 damage to any target
-7 target opponent discards their hand, for each card discarded this way, draw a card

starting loyalty 3

1UB
Instant
Remove all cards in all graveyards from the game. For each card type exiled this way, put a 1/1 faerie creature token onto the battlefield.

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Ali Aintrazi just proposed this:

Intrude
UU
Instant
Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player puts that card at the bottom of their library. You draw a card.

Nice try Antrazi, but that card is busted.

It's V-Cllque's ability but you get the draw instead of the opponent??

All I can think is "Hey Thoughtseize is a good card, but we don't want it to cost a card. Plus it should be doable during their drawstep just in case they draw something good. 1 more mana sounds about right."

If my interpretation is right, the targeted player would still draw their card (representing the "Clique" effect), then you would draw a card regardless. That seems powerful but not broken by any means. Maybe downgrade to Scry 1 instead of Draw 1 if it needed to be powered down?

Please print a new command cycle.

Well, after seeing Fatal Push I have some things on my wish-list:

Hymn to Push
BB
Sorcery
Target player discards 1 card at Random
Revolt - 2 cards at random

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Counter Push
UU
Instant
Counter target spell with CMC 2 or less
Revolt - 4 or less

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Cantrip Push
U
Sorcery
Scry 1 then draw a card
Revolt - Scry 3 (2?) then draw

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Lightning Push
R
Instant
Deal 2 damage to target creature or player
Revolt - 3 damage

Counter Push UU
Instant
Counter target spell unless it's controller pays 1
Revolt - Instead counter target spell

Push Goyf 1G
Creature
Revolt - When Push Goyf enters the battlefield place 2 +1/+1 counters on it
2/3

Draw-Go-Revolt 1UU
Instant
Draw 2 cards
Revolt - Draw 3 cards

Make Mill Great Again UB
Sorcery
Target player puts the top 8 cards of their library into their graveyard.
Revolt - Target player puts the top 15 cards of their library into their graveyard.

Token Revolt 1WB
Instant

Put 3 1/1 Spirit Tokens with Flying onto the battlefield
Revolt - Put 3 2/2 Spirit Tokens with Flying onto the battlefield

Baleful Revolt UB
Creature
Flying, Deathtouch
Revolt - When Baleful Revolt enters the battlefield, draw a card.
1/1

Devotion to Revolt GG
Sorcery
Add G to your mana pool equal to your devotion to Green
Revolt - Add GG to your mana pool equal to your devotion to Green

Revolting Mom W
Creature
Revolt - Tap: Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until the end of your turn.

Stoneforge Revolt 1W
Creature
When ~ enters the battlefield you may search your library for an equipment card, reveal it, and put it in your hand. Then shuffle your library
Revolt - 1WTap: you may put an equipment card from your hand onto the battlefield.

Force of Revolt 3UU
Instant

Counter target spell
Revolt - you may pay 1 life and remove a blue card in your hand from the game instead of paying FoR's casting cost.

As busted as all of those are, if Fatal Push were suggested here before officially spoiled, most of us would react like "Now way Wizards would do that! Way too pushed!."

Fatal Push should've been the Christmas spoiler

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now it's just green that needs a 1-mana effective instant interaction for modern (the other being Path to Exile, Vapor Snag, Lightning Bolt and Fatal Push to some extent). You could argue there is prey upon (lol) but it is not a standalone card.
What could that card be?

Here's what I propose:

Primal Defiance G
Instant
Destroy target creature.
Its controller reveals the card on top of his library. If it is a creature, he or she puts it in hand, otherwise on the bottom of his/her library.

I'm sorry, but that's just way too powerful. Push kills 2 cmc creatures for G, and then only 4 cmc with revolt. That's just straight up *any* creature for G, with a Goblin Guide-esque drawback. Green doesn't have kill spells.


I think control is on the cusp in modern again. I want something like:

Decent 3 mana counterspell 1UU
Instant

Counter target spell, then look at the top card of your library. If it's a land, put it on the battlefield tapped.

I feel like that wouldn't be too powerful for standard, but would be powerful enough to see some play in modern.

Also something simple like:

Decent Restock Spell 2U
Instant
Scry 1, then draw a card. You may return target card from your graveyard to your hand.

Or

Restock 3UU
Instant
Draw 3 cards.
Restock costs 2 less during your opponent's end step if they have not cast a spell this turn.

or even

Secret Intelligence UU
Instant
Counter Target spell with CMC 2 or less
Return a land you control to your hand: Instead counter target spell

Maybe

FistfightG
Instant
Create a 3/1 Beast token named One Punch with "When this creature enters the battlefield, this creature fights target creature an opponent controls. Sacrifice One Punch at the end of the turn.

Nicolai, Spawn of Bolas UBR

Planeswalker - Nicolai

Starting loyalty: 3

+1: [Card name] deals two damage to target creature or player.
-2: Scry 2, then draw a card.
-7: [Card name] deals 4 damage to target player. That player discards four cards, then sacrifices four permanents.

New control planeswalker? Too good? Too bad? You decide!

Flasher 1U
Creature
Flash
Tap: The next spell you cast this turn has flash.
2/1

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I see. Could you help me out then?
I wanted to brainstorm a premiere removal spell on par with the others, with a minor secondary effect that could be exploited. Since green is often creature-based, I thought that green would like to bring the fight with creatures, so I guessed that it was cool to give card advantage to the opponent only if they had creatures (it's pretty much the same philosophy of path to exile that "awards" you for playing basics).
Also, there is Beast Within at 3cmc that destroys everything, so I thought an idea could have been to downgrade it a bit and give a conditional advantage.

Green won't get unconditional removal. That's just not part of it's colour pie. Just like blue won't (besides Piracy Charm I can't think of a modern legal blue removal that trades 1 for 1. I'm pretty sure R&D has stated that Beast Within was a design mistake. Green is the only colour that can directly interact with every permanent besides creatures and I think that's fine.

I really like those revolt counterspells at 2 cmc Minos, Khaos, and rcrwaspy. I am honestly hoping revolt isn't quite evergreen but comes back frequently, better odds of a proper counterspell that way (not quite evergreen because I want to see Zen fetches reprinted in Standard someday)

Pull Under
UU
When you cast Pull Under, exile the top three cards of your library.
Exile target Instant or Creature spell.

Parasitic Infestation
(1)B
Enchantment-Aura
Enchanted creature is black.
Enchanted creature has +2/+1
When enchanted creature dies, put a 1/1 black Insect token onto the battlefield.

Glitch Savant
(1)R
Creature-Wizard
Activated abilities cost an additional
2/1

Because it would make for a really silly combo deck with Splendid Reclamation and Crucible of Worlds:

Magus of the Dead Moon 1RB
Creature
All cards in all graveyards are Mountains.
2/2

Because I think its about time we brought the Enchantress archtype to modern:

Enchantress Planeswalker 1UWW
Planeswaker
+1 Draw a card for each enchantment you control.
-2 Exile target permanent you control, if you do exile target permanent.
-6 You may put any number of permanents either player controls in exile onto the battlefield under your control. You may cast any number of spells either player controls in exile without paying their mana costs.
3

Because green needs a 1 mana creature answer:

Beastial Wrath G
Instant
Put a 3/3 Beast creature token onto the battlefield. That token fights target creature another player controls. Sacrifice it at the end of the turn.

Because blue needs a 1 mana creature answer:

Glitch in Time U
Instant
Put target creature with converted mana cost 4 or less 3rd from the top in its owners library.

Because Tribal decks need a more powerful counter:

Extreme Prejudice 3
Artifact
As Extreme Prejudice enters the battlefield, name a creature type. You and permanents you control have protection from that creature type.

Because Control decks are getting more powerful:

Counter Trap 2
Instant
Split Second
Spells you control gain hexproof until the end of the turn.
If an opponent casts a spell during your turn, you may cast Counter Trap without paying its mana cost.

Because I want Modern to have even more interaction and I want UW control to be better:
Revoke from the Ether 2WU
Instant
Pick 1:
- Exile target spell and draw a card, then discard a card.
- Exile target permanent and draw a card, then discard a card.
- Draw 3 cards, then either exile a permanent you control or discard 1 card.

Desolate Tutor R
Sorcery
Search your library for a spell with converted cost of one.
Reveal it and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
One is the lonliest number

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Desolate Tutor R
Sorcery
Search your library for a spell with converted cost of one.
Reveal it and shuffle your library.
One is the lonliest number

Well it's pretty bad as written unless you just really want to show someone a card in your deck. Might want to add it to your hand or shuffle then put it on top like vampiric tutor.

Whoops, fixed it.
Red doesn't really get any love with tutor effects, but it seems fair for a restrictive effect.
It also fills the red portion of the mirage cycle tutors after 21 years.

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Desolate Tutor R
Sorcery
Search your library for a spell with converted cost of one.
Reveal it and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
One is the lonliest number

That seems insanely pushed even at sorcery speed. I could see making an argument for it if it put it on top of your library after the shuffle, but into hand is way too strong IMO.

In terms of Standard, I imagine its power would be pretty limited, but in eternal formats full of broken cards that cost 1, being able to run 4 more of any given one is amazing, and getting selection on top of it is busted. IMO. Sorry.

(It would, however, make every URx Delver player leap for joy.)

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Desolate Tutor R
Sorcery
Search your library for a spell with converted cost of one.
Reveal it and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
One is the lonliest number

That seems insanely pushed even at sorcery speed. I could see making an argument for it if it put it on top of your library after the shuffle, but into hand is way too strong IMO.

In terms of Standard, I imagine its power would be pretty limited, but in eternal formats full of broken cards that cost 1, being able to run 4 more of any given one is amazing, and getting selection on top of it is busted. IMO. Sorry.

(It would, however, make every URx Delver player leap for joy.)

How would it be broken in modern?

There aren't that many cards to tutor in modern. There are 17 cards out of the 50 most played spells you can tutor for, and many of them are significantly worse when you add and extra R to the cost.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/modern/full/all

How about:

So at the very least decks can play a singleton Counterspell in their deck. In Standard, it seems fair that you get a Counterspell early but then it becomes a Cancel and then a worse Cancel as the game goes on.

In Modern on the other hand, this could perhaps play out similar to actual Counterspell in a deck that can use Snapcaster Mage, or delve-spells to get rid of the taxing copies in your graveyard.

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Desolate Tutor R
Sorcery
Search your library for a spell with converted cost of one.
Reveal it and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
One is the lonliest number

That seems insanely pushed even at sorcery speed. I could see making an argument for it if it put it on top of your library after the shuffle, but into hand is way too strong IMO.

In terms of Standard, I imagine its power would be pretty limited, but in eternal formats full of broken cards that cost 1, being able to run 4 more of any given one is amazing, and getting selection on top of it is busted. IMO. Sorry.

(It would, however, make every URx Delver player leap for joy.)

How would it be broken in modern?

There aren't that many cards to tutor in modern. There are 17 cards out of the 50 most played spells you can tutor for, and many of them are significantly worse when you add and extra R to the cost.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/modern/full/all

Sure a Lightning Bolt that costs RR is pretty bad. A card that reads U/B/RR (so cmc 2) choose one: Lightning Bolt, Delver, Dispel, Serum Visions, Thought Scour, Spell Snare, Fatal Push on the other hand is pretty bonkers. The modes on Collective Brutality are also rather bad individually. Flexibility comes at a cost and this card is super flexible. Heck I could even see Infect splash for this thing. It's an additional 4x of threats while it's also a pump/protection spell and it' an answer for annoying stuff like Spellskite.
Lantern Control would like some more copies of Lantern of Insight too I guess (even more if it's also a Codex Shredder, Pithing Needle, Thoughtseize or Surgical Extraction. Not to mention all the SB bullets.)

Red also doesn't really tutor outside of Gamble. The only colour that can get any type of card is black.

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How about:

Scaling CounterspellUU
Instant
Scaling Counterspell costs an additional 1 to play for each card named Scaling Counterspell in your graveyard.

Counter target spell.

So at the very least decks can play a singleton Counterspell in their deck. In Standard, it seems fair that you get a Counterspell early but then it becomes a Cancel and then a worse Cancel as the game goes on.

In Modern on the other hand, this could perhaps play out similar to actual Counterspell in a deck that can use Snapcaster Mage, or delve-spells to get rid of the taxing copies in your graveyard.

I see that or a counterspell like:

Rebellious Defiance - UU

counter target spell unless it controller pays 2 mana.

Revolt - Counter that spell instead if a permanent you controlled left the battlefield this turn.