just joined mtgo yesterday to play some pauper and this is one of the decks that i made which was sort of inspired by the standard deck "Caw Blade" but instead of using the swords I'm using bonesplitter axe, Flayer Husk, and Sylvok lifestaff, all of which are fetchable by trinket mage. I thought it was a cool idea and I want to improve it so i would really appreciate suggestions that help the deck, especially with the consistency.
So far i've been playing the deck in the casual rooms playing pauper and its so-so, i was barely able to hammer out a win against cloudpost. Playing cloudpost really made all of my mana leaks useless because of how much mana they're able to build up and always have. I have also noticed that deft duelist would be way more effective against cloudpost because of its shroud ability. I originally had the duelist mainboard but took it out in favor of the legionnaire because i can't equip the duelist but i would like other peoples thoughts on this too.
I do want to start playing pauper tournaments so advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I have been playing something similar in standard and it works very well. Your best bet here is to go more MUC and splash white for squadron hawk, oblivion ring, kor skyfisher, and momentary blink. Gitaxian probe is not a good card for this deck when you have acess to things like brainstorm. Mana leak should be just plain old counterspell. I also suggest at least 2 lifestaffs.
As long you're going to keep white and Bonesplitter in the deck, I cannot recommend adding Guardian of the Guildpact strongly enough. That card is such a house against almost every deck in the format and it is an extremely fast clock when equipped with a Bonesplitter. I would include at least 3. Even if you aren't using Guardian to beat face, he is an amazing blocker, taking out most creatures in the format when he's equipped and a very significant number of them even when he isn't.
Wow thanks for the suggestions just added some still unsure about a couple, but damn i would've had counterspells earlier but i didn't know they were so much cheaper online.
Heres the new deck, more suggestions are always helpful
Also not sure about the kor skyfishers/momentary blinks whether i should find a way to put them in the deck or not. Also dispel or spell pierce? Now i'm also starting to keep a chart of the Wins and Losses Against different decks.
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I've also been trying to come up with something like this for the Pauper format. Unfortunately, I've been running into a couple of problems:
- The available equipment is incredibly sub-par. Getting hit with a Bonesplitter is not nearly as devastating an effect as getting hit with any of the SOM Swords. Heck, getting hit three times with a Bonesplitter is not as devastating as getting hit with any of the SOM Swords.
- There are no planeswalkers. Being able to cast planeswalkers in the CawBlade decks of Standard usually meant "free spells" every turn, whether that spell was a Brainstorm or Unsummon or Fateseal 1 or "destroy target tapped creature" or "all creatures must attack Gideon this turn", they were still extra freebies that didn't require any mana or any cards to be cast from hand. That doesn't exist in Pauper.
- Removal is in large supply in this format. Four out of the five colors have at least one way to get rid of a Hawk for two mana or less.
- Flyers are also in large supply. One of the problems with stopping Hawks from crashing their Swords into you was the fact that there weren't many playable flyers in Standard, and the few that were there were much more expensive (Baneslayer Angel). In Pauper, there are a lot more cheap, efficient flyers that get in the way.
- No man-lands. Another thing that made CawBlade decks good was the fact that they could wipe the board and then still put their Swords onto man-lands and get in there. Pauper has no such lands.
In summary, although the idea seems like a good one to try, the reality is that it probably isn't going to work, for a number of reasons.
In summary, although the idea seems like a good one to try, the reality is that it probably isn't going to work, for a number of reasons.
could be, but just playing pauper in the casual rooms has yielded great results. This deck stomps on the majority of the decks i've played, however it almost looks embarrasing to MUC, and U/R cloudpost is another problem as well. Also those are casual rooms, taking it up to a more competitive level may not go as well.
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could be, but just playing pauper in the casual rooms has yielded great results. This deck stomps on the majority of the decks i've played, however it almost looks embarrasing to MUC, and U/R cloudpost is another problem as well. Also those are casual rooms, taking it up to a more competitive level may not go as well.
Yeah, the concept seems to be applied better in MUC, specifically with Ninjitsu mechanic. Maybe a better approach would be to use Ninjas as psuedo-Equipment?
ya i need to get ahold of some of the ninjas to test with, also i've been keeping track of wins and losses against diferent decks and so far the W/L are at 15-5. Also does anybody know of any cards that would help the match up against blue because besides one bad hand/ no creatures loss i've lost all the other 4 games to MUC, U/R post, and U control that just splashed White
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What are you having troubles with blue exactly? Besides COP:Blue I don't know how to help with out knowing more details.
playing blue control is just miserable, with MUC they counter just about anything slightly threatening, they always have counters in hand via mull drifter, ninja of the deep hours. It's just a really hard deck to play against because i know that i have to play around the counters but they really just kinda pick away at you with a couple of creatures backed by counters till they win. They pretty much just have an answer to everything.
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Board in more counterspells, instant, flash things I guess. Possibly some bounce spells might help. Also possibly playing into there counters with less effective spells could help ease there hand of counterspells.
Sounds like you need a playset or at least 2 dispels in the sideboard lol. Another option might be uncounterable dudes, such as cycling a bant sojourners, if you're having issues with getting peeps on the board.
EDIT: or try pushing cards with flash, such as Deputy of Acquittals, Hussar Patrol, or Zealous Guardian.
9 island
1 halimar depths
2 lonely sandbar
2 terramorphic expanse
9 plains
Creatures (16)
4 Porcelain Legionnaire
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Sea Gate Oracle
4 Trinket mage
3 Bonesplitter
1 flayer husk
1 sylvok lifestaff
1 aether spellbomb
Other (15)
3 gitaxian probe
4 mana leak
4 preordain
4 oblivion ring
4 spell pierce
4 deft duelist
So far i've been playing the deck in the casual rooms playing pauper and its so-so, i was barely able to hammer out a win against cloudpost. Playing cloudpost really made all of my mana leaks useless because of how much mana they're able to build up and always have. I have also noticed that deft duelist would be way more effective against cloudpost because of its shroud ability. I originally had the duelist mainboard but took it out in favor of the legionnaire because i can't equip the duelist but i would like other peoples thoughts on this too.
I do want to start playing pauper tournaments so advice would be greatly appreciated.
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GWURKnight FallGWUR
Legacy
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Heres the new deck, more suggestions are always helpful
2 lonely sandbar
1 halimar depths
2 terramorphic expanse
9 island
9 plains
Creatures (16)
3 guardian of the guildpact
3 porcelain legionnaire
3 sea gate oracle
4 squadron hawk
3 trinket mage
1 aether spellbomb
2 sylvok lifestaff
3 bonesplitter
1 flayer husk
Other (14)
4 preordain
4 counterspell
4 oblivion ring
2 faith's fetters
4 disciple of law
3 dispel
2 faith's fetter
2 weatherseed faeries
1 flayer husk
1 trinket mage
1 porcelain legionnare
1 sea gate oracle
Also not sure about the kor skyfishers/momentary blinks whether i should find a way to put them in the deck or not. Also dispel or spell pierce? Now i'm also starting to keep a chart of the Wins and Losses Against different decks.
RBU
Splinter Twin (RIP)/DelverRBUUUUMono U TronUUU
GRGGR TronGRG
GWURKnight FallGWUR
Legacy
GWBDark MaverickGWB
--> EDH <--
BWUErtai, the CorruptedBWU
- The available equipment is incredibly sub-par. Getting hit with a Bonesplitter is not nearly as devastating an effect as getting hit with any of the SOM Swords. Heck, getting hit three times with a Bonesplitter is not as devastating as getting hit with any of the SOM Swords.
- There are no planeswalkers. Being able to cast planeswalkers in the CawBlade decks of Standard usually meant "free spells" every turn, whether that spell was a Brainstorm or Unsummon or Fateseal 1 or "destroy target tapped creature" or "all creatures must attack Gideon this turn", they were still extra freebies that didn't require any mana or any cards to be cast from hand. That doesn't exist in Pauper.
- Removal is in large supply in this format. Four out of the five colors have at least one way to get rid of a Hawk for two mana or less.
- Flyers are also in large supply. One of the problems with stopping Hawks from crashing their Swords into you was the fact that there weren't many playable flyers in Standard, and the few that were there were much more expensive (Baneslayer Angel). In Pauper, there are a lot more cheap, efficient flyers that get in the way.
- No man-lands. Another thing that made CawBlade decks good was the fact that they could wipe the board and then still put their Swords onto man-lands and get in there. Pauper has no such lands.
In summary, although the idea seems like a good one to try, the reality is that it probably isn't going to work, for a number of reasons.
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Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
could be, but just playing pauper in the casual rooms has yielded great results. This deck stomps on the majority of the decks i've played, however it almost looks embarrasing to MUC, and U/R cloudpost is another problem as well. Also those are casual rooms, taking it up to a more competitive level may not go as well.
RBU
Splinter Twin (RIP)/DelverRBUUUUMono U TronUUU
GRGGR TronGRG
GWURKnight FallGWUR
Legacy
GWBDark MaverickGWB
--> EDH <--
BWUErtai, the CorruptedBWU
Yeah, the concept seems to be applied better in MUC, specifically with Ninjitsu mechanic. Maybe a better approach would be to use Ninjas as psuedo-Equipment?
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
RBU
Splinter Twin (RIP)/DelverRBUUUUMono U TronUUU
GRGGR TronGRG
GWURKnight FallGWUR
Legacy
GWBDark MaverickGWB
--> EDH <--
BWUErtai, the CorruptedBWU
playing blue control is just miserable, with MUC they counter just about anything slightly threatening, they always have counters in hand via mull drifter, ninja of the deep hours. It's just a really hard deck to play against because i know that i have to play around the counters but they really just kinda pick away at you with a couple of creatures backed by counters till they win. They pretty much just have an answer to everything.
RBU
Splinter Twin (RIP)/DelverRBUUUUMono U TronUUU
GRGGR TronGRG
GWURKnight FallGWUR
Legacy
GWBDark MaverickGWB
--> EDH <--
BWUErtai, the CorruptedBWU
EDIT: or try pushing cards with flash, such as Deputy of Acquittals, Hussar Patrol, or Zealous Guardian.
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