Hi, I'm opening this thread to discuss with you about possible downgrades from uncommon, rare and theorically even mythic to common, such as mm3's Burning-Tree Emissary and Mortician Beetle.
Obviously I suggest not to propose too powerful cards, since there is no chance for them to be downgraded.
Let's begin!
Personally, I'd like something to bring mono-white decks to compete with other one-colour decks in terms of competitivity, for example wall of omens would be a nice add to the pauper pool of cards, since it would provide a good blocker against aggressive decks like stompy and rdw, but it wouldn't be too poerful since it's not that useful against control decks and faerie-decks. Moreover, it has a very good sinergy with kor skyfisher.
This is my suggestion, what's yours?
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I agree about piroclasm but not totally. I'd really like to have a cheap sweeper too since I really love control decks, but on the other hand it would drastically change the metagame, favoring too much slower decks: many archetypes like elves, mono-white, red deck wins, stompy, faeries and kuldotha-decks would have a really bad time or definitely die. I think that something like steam blast or volcanic fallout would be more reasonable.
Condemn. White needs a Swords to Plowshares effect like yesterday, and we're never getting the real thing. Smother would also make for a pretty good removal spell. Ideally I'd like Fatal Push, but that will never happen.
Pyroclasm would be amazing, but probably too powerful. I do like the idea of Steam Blast, though.
Another realistic sweeper that could see play at common would be Volcanic Spray and Howling Gale for flyers. it takes four mana to get to two damage, and it doesn't hit flyers. It's a good board-wipe against weenies and elves, but also acts as a more general sweeper if you invest the flashback on the same turn. Howling Gale would also cause Delver decks a lot of problems.
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Originally Posted by Massive Marc
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
Condemn. White needs a Swords to Plowshares effect like yesterday, and we're never getting the real thing. Smother would also make for a pretty good removal spell. Ideally I'd like Fatal Push, but that will never happen.
really late to the party so I apologize, but a lot of the cards that you listed are actually played in the peasant and siloverback formats. If you want to get a feel for them, those are actually good formats that allow you to test the waters with those cards. I know they are fringe formats, but if you can get a playgroup they are actually really fun and unexplored.
Remand gets my vote. Sadly I think it would make UR Blitz easier to combo off though. Pyroclasm would hate out quite a few aggro strategies, and would cause a huge shift in the meta.
I'm not sure how many other people would agree with this, but I'd like to see all the charms get downgrades. None of them are overpowered, the manabase in Pauper isn't great, and I'm always a fan of cards that give players options. This would give the format access to some board sweepers in golgari charm and Jund charm, and just more answers for multicolored decks.
More sweepers may also be necessary since lead the stampede just got a downgrade.
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Modern
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
The card hideous laughter would be nice to have. I would also like infest as a possible option as well. I think if you bring sweepers into the format, they should be in black. Things like electrickery are fine, but anything that does greater then 1 damage or -1/-1 should cost 3-4 mana imo.
Obviously I suggest not to propose too powerful cards, since there is no chance for them to be downgraded.
Let's begin!
Personally, I'd like something to bring mono-white decks to compete with other one-colour decks in terms of competitivity, for example wall of omens would be a nice add to the pauper pool of cards, since it would provide a good blocker against aggressive decks like stompy and rdw, but it wouldn't be too poerful since it's not that useful against control decks and faerie-decks. Moreover, it has a very good sinergy with kor skyfisher.
This is my suggestion, what's yours?
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Mishra's Factory, Shriekmaw, Wall of Omens, Wonder, Roar of the Wurm, Bloodbraid Elf, Artisan of Kozilek and Guttural Response would be pretty good additions to the pool, while things like Reanimate / Animate Dead, Astral Slide, Lightning Rift, Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek and Psychatog would create new strategies altogether.
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Another realistic sweeper that could see play at common would be Volcanic Spray and Howling Gale for flyers. it takes four mana to get to two damage, and it doesn't hit flyers. It's a good board-wipe against weenies and elves, but also acts as a more general sweeper if you invest the flashback on the same turn. Howling Gale would also cause Delver decks a lot of problems.
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BRSacrificial AggroBR
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EDH
BRRakdos, Lord of PingersBR
GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
UB Ramses OverdarkUB
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You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
really late to the party so I apologize, but a lot of the cards that you listed are actually played in the peasant and siloverback formats. If you want to get a feel for them, those are actually good formats that allow you to test the waters with those cards. I know they are fringe formats, but if you can get a playgroup they are actually really fun and unexplored.
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
UB Wight Phantasm
RB Burn
UR Faerie Rites of Initiation
Legacy:
R Burn
CG-Post
More sweepers may also be necessary since lead the stampede just got a downgrade.
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
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Basically B control, reanimator and infect could need a little boost.
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A payoff for Goblins. Goblin King, Goblin Recruiter and/or Goblin Grenade would be sick.
A payoff for sacrifice decks. Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat.
Zombify for reasonably-costed redundancy with Exhume for its decks.
Curious Homunculus because it might actually be playable.
Serra Angel, Sengir Vampire, Shivan Dragon, Mahamoti Djinn, Erhnam Djinn, White Knight and Black Knight because they'd impact nothing, but would tie Pauper's oldschool feel together.