It used to be good players that wrote articles would eventually get around to doing a write up of how a draft looks based on this.
For example:
If your opponent plays a claustrophobia, theres a large chance he's playing a shock too.
(It's slightly different online than in paper)
That example just isn't true. That's not something you can conclude given this information.
It's worth noting that Divination and Claustrophobia can't be in the same pack, which looks like the most important bit of information, as those are the two best blue commons.
There's no difference between pack construction online and in a real life draft. All packs follow this print run.
That's not what I meant, the print runs are the same, but how the packs are constructed from the sections can be different.
I've never checked the print run against paper, but someone in france did for SoM (? I can't find the link but it was a big set).
He found that unlike online, in paper the packs are made of
A+B+C1
A+B+C2
as opposed to online which is
A+B
A+C1
A+C2
B+C1
B+C2
That's what I mean by different. It may not be true for M14, but it has been true in the past the online packs != real life packs.
Which means that in paper, since the range of shock is smaller (6 max online less than 6 in paper), it only appears with claustrophobia in one of it's occurrences.
If you're drafting online the handy (unfinished) program in the link just does all the figuring out for you.
(need to fix the short printed common, and make it add cards automatically that are 100% missing)
And sorry yeah, my example is bad.
I should say online in a sealed if your opponent is playing UR, for every shock he plays there's a 43% chance that shock was with a claustrophobia.
30 total possibilities with shock, 13 of those also contain claustrophobia.
Just to note. It seems wizards has started randomizing the commons in the packs again. Everything is the same it's just way less obvious at a glance.
How did you download it?
Since it's checking for the class I assume you have java installed, is it the latest version of java?
The main class should be in the .jar file (if you open it in winrar it should be there)
As for the spread sheet, here's how it works.
There's 4 sections to the print run.
A, B, C1, C2.
A pack in MTGO contains cards from exactly two of them (and never C1, and C2 in the same pack).
The packs on MTGO can be constructed by choosing 2 of the sections, a number of cards from each section (between 4-6 it depends on which secions exactly).
And then you choose a starting point, in the run column, and take however many cards you're supposed to take going down (if you hit the bottom loop back up).
for example a pack can be made by choosing A and B: 4 cards for A, 6 cards for B
Starting at the first Giant Spider for A and the first Cyclops Tyrant for B
Same as most recent large sets.
Two of each A, B, C1, C2 in a pack.
Never C1 and C2 at the same time.
A new slightly improved draft helper will be up soon.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At2k0LuFYr27dFF2X2IxTzFUYUJPbDJSZ2Fka2toaHc#gid=0
Hey look, a program that you just click/enter cards and it reads the print run for you
https://sites.google.com/site/mtgodrafthelper/
It used to be good players that wrote articles would eventually get around to doing a write up of how a draft looks based on this.
For example:
If your opponent plays a claustrophobia, theres a large chance he's playing a shock too.
(It's slightly different online than in paper)
That example just isn't true. That's not something you can conclude given this information.
It's worth noting that Divination and Claustrophobia can't be in the same pack, which looks like the most important bit of information, as those are the two best blue commons.
There's no difference between pack construction online and in a real life draft. All packs follow this print run.
For example, if a common is missing and Shock is still in the pack, they likely took Claustrophobia.
Re-read what you said.
Hooray you learned something! :nod::thumbsup::D
When is that not good information to have?
How you should approach every game of Magic.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something.
Why the attitude in your post?
Emoticons = no attitude intended.
How you should approach every game of Magic.
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I've never checked the print run against paper, but someone in france did for SoM (? I can't find the link but it was a big set).
He found that unlike online, in paper the packs are made of
A+B+C1
A+B+C2
as opposed to online which is
A+B
A+C1
A+C2
B+C1
B+C2
That's what I mean by different. It may not be true for M14, but it has been true in the past the online packs != real life packs.
Which means that in paper, since the range of shock is smaller (6 max online less than 6 in paper), it only appears with claustrophobia in one of it's occurrences.
If you're drafting online the handy (unfinished) program in the link just does all the figuring out for you.
(need to fix the short printed common, and make it add cards automatically that are 100% missing)
And sorry yeah, my example is bad.
I should say online in a sealed if your opponent is playing UR, for every shock he plays there's a 43% chance that shock was with a claustrophobia.
30 total possibilities with shock, 13 of those also contain claustrophobia.
Just to note. It seems wizards has started randomizing the commons in the packs again. Everything is the same it's just way less obvious at a glance.
Please don't double post
Could not find the main class: drafthelper.DrafthelperUI. Program will exit
Anyone know why?
EDIT: Additionally I'm having a hard time reading the spreadsheet. could someone break it down for me a little?
How did you download it?
Since it's checking for the class I assume you have java installed, is it the latest version of java?
The main class should be in the .jar file (if you open it in winrar it should be there)
As for the spread sheet, here's how it works.
There's 4 sections to the print run.
A, B, C1, C2.
A pack in MTGO contains cards from exactly two of them (and never C1, and C2 in the same pack).
The packs on MTGO can be constructed by choosing 2 of the sections, a number of cards from each section (between 4-6 it depends on which secions exactly).
And then you choose a starting point, in the run column, and take however many cards you're supposed to take going down (if you hit the bottom loop back up).
for example a pack can be made by choosing A and B: 4 cards for A, 6 cards for B
Starting at the first Giant Spider for A and the first Cyclops Tyrant for B
Which gives you the pack
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Rumbling Baloth
Dawnstrike Paladin
Cyclops Tyrant
Divination
Plummet
Suntail Hawk
Zephyr Charge
Undead Minotaur
<Basic Land>
<Uncommon>
<Uncommon>
<Uncommon>
<Rare/Mythic>
So how can this be useful?
Well you know that if A was the section (it is always 4 cards from section A)
then the only packs that contain giant spider these exact cards in them
Show of Valor
Chandra's Outrage
Dark Favor
Giant Spider
Chandra's Outrage
Dark Favor
Giant Spider
Wring Flesh
Dark Favor
Giant Spider
Wring Flesh
Pay No Heed
Giant Spider
Wring Flesh
Pay No Heed
Rumbling Baloth
Siege Mastodon
Demolish
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Demolish
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Vile Rebirth
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Vile Rebirth
Dawnstrike Paladin
Dark Favor
Show of Valor
Demolish
Giant Spider
Show of Valor
Demolish
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Demolish
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Rumbling Baloth
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Rumbling Baloth
Dawnstrike Paladin
No other pack on MTGO will contain a giant spider and not have contained those other 3 cards.
What draft helper does is takes the whole "range" of giant spider.
Show of Valor
Chandra's Outrage
Dark Favor
Giant Spider
Wring Flesh
Pay No Heed
Rumbling Baloth
Siege Mastodon
Demolish
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Vile Rebirth
Dawnstrike Paladin
Dark Favor
Show of Valor
Demolish
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Rumbling Baloth
Dawnstrike Paladin
And checks that against other cards from printrun A that you see in the pack.
Ie if you add demolish the range becomes
Siege Mastodon
Demolish
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Dark Favor
Show of Valor
Demolish
Giant Spider
Armored Cancrix
Rumbling Baloth
and then if you add Lightning Talons
You get
Demolish
Archaeomancer
Giant Spider
Lightning Talons
Which means if you don't see an Archaeomancer in the pack, someone took it (or it was a foil)
That's not the fastest way to do it by hand, so it's hard to do in real time, but you can do something similar with a draft cap in the post.