By the time you got to that stage of the game, Belcher most likely already has tried going off once, or you've successfully disrupted them enough, and this is just extra and quite pointless.. plus you need to draw it.
I agree that this is kinda win-more against belcher though I've never gotten behind the whole need to draw it excuse, feels like the dies to removal argument to me. You need to draw something to further your game plan so any card fits into that catagory.
I think Mind Grind will be tried and may be relegated to a 1 of in the SB if even that.
I'm not even going to bother explaining why using cards like Volcanic Fallout or Searing Blaze are better in those situations you just listed for a Burn deck.
I'll let you think it's playable, test it, and realize Burn has better options
So far, IMHO , nothing is playable in legacy... other than shocklands for budget builds.
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Maybe Thrull Parasite can be Sideboard-material for black decks. It can shrink Planeswalkers loyalty on sight and you maybe get one Extort-Activation or two. What do you think?
I like this card, I think it will see Standard play.
But that is no where near good enough in Legacy. 2 Life for a Loyalty counter?
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yeah. well.... im just dissapointed at the spoilers. nothing much new for legacy... but for EDH. LOL
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So far, IMHO , nothing is playable in legacy... other than shocklands for budget builds.
I think a single copy of Enter the Infinite replaces the Time of Need in Omniscience sideboards, but other than that I don't like anything spoiled at all.
maybe Crypt Ghast... on the long run can be playable. i want to brew something that would actually make him playable in legacy.
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personally i could see the boros charm in maybe something like zoo or something else?
that thing has alot of versatility and it does do the 4 damage with no downside what so ever thing.
personally i could see the boros charm in maybe something like zoo or something else?
that thing has alot of versatility and it does do the 4 damage with no downside what so ever thing.
Zoo would rather deal damage to creatures to swing with it's own creatures, and use Burn to finish off it's opponent. Boros Charm does not hit creatures.
That being said, I could be tempted to splash White in Burn and try that.
Zoo would rather deal damage to creatures to swing with it's own creatures, and use Burn to finish off it's opponent. Boros Charm does not hit creatures.
That being said, I could be tempted to splash White in Burn and try that.
It does give double strike to a creature so you can use it as pseudo-removal.
I really like the charm, but I do agree it's more Modern stuff than Legacy's.
Maybe Thrull Parasite can be Sideboard-material for black decks. It can shrink Planeswalkers loyalty on sight and you maybe get one Extort-Activation or two. What do you think?
This is not how bans/unbans work. Its always the enabler that gets the ban, not the card that is being abused. If you would have Yawgmoths will + whatever cards - it would be Yawgs that would be banned. If you would have Stoneforge and batterskull - it would be stone who would be banned and that is exactly how it works. Furthermore, banning a card in order to unban a different card is a thought process that was and wont be never applied in practical means.
Zoo would rather deal damage to creatures to swing with it's own creatures, and use Burn to finish off it's opponent. Boros Charm does not hit creatures.
That being said, I could be tempted to splash White in Burn and try that.
2 casting for 4 damage is really awesome. BOROS burn. LOl
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I agree that this is kinda win-more against belcher though I've never gotten behind the whole need to draw it excuse, feels like the dies to removal argument to me. You need to draw something to further your game plan so any card fits into that catagory.
I think Mind Grind will be tried and may be relegated to a 1 of in the SB if even that.
Maybe in Modern where you can Primeval Titan into that.
I'm not even going to bother explaining why using cards like Volcanic Fallout or Searing Blaze are better in those situations you just listed for a Burn deck.
I'll let you think it's playable, test it, and realize Burn has better options
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Could it be played in manaless dredge along side griselbrand?
At worst it would come into play as a 7/7 and dredge 6 times.
Sacrifice narcomeobas to dredge return, trigger bridge from below for 3 zombies Etc. etc.
Or is this win-more?
Modern
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As yet nothing remotely close to what we could play in legacy.
I like this card, I think it will see Standard play.
But that is no where near good enough in Legacy. 2 Life for a Loyalty counter?
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Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
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Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
EDH - UWGrand Arbiter Agustin IV
UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
Buy All the Dual Lands!!!
Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
So far nothing is Legacy playable. But our format looks more and more like Vintage, all the playable cards tend to be commons and uncommons.
I think a single copy of Enter the Infinite replaces the Time of Need in Omniscience sideboards, but other than that I don't like anything spoiled at all.
Trade Thread
Modern
RWGBurnGWR
GUInfectUG
GRTronRG
UWGifts TronWU
URBGrixis DelverBRU
RGWZooWGR
Legacy
BUWTinFinsWUB
UROmniTellRU
BURTESRUB
GElves!G
GBPSIBG
RGBelcherGR
UBRGWDredgeWGRBU
UBAffinityBU
RBurnR
Vintage
UBGDoomsdayGBU
0Martello Shops0
GElves!G
UBTPSBU
UBelcherU
0Dredge0
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Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
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Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
that thing has alot of versatility and it does do the 4 damage with no downside what so ever thing.
Zoo would rather deal damage to creatures to swing with it's own creatures, and use Burn to finish off it's opponent. Boros Charm does not hit creatures.
That being said, I could be tempted to splash White in Burn and try that.
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It does give double strike to a creature so you can use it as pseudo-removal.
I really like the charm, but I do agree it's more Modern stuff than Legacy's.
Legacy:
combo elves
Modern:
White Rock (41-24-4 in matches. Beginning 10/14/14. Last updated 1/2/15)
List:
4 Dark Confidant
3 Siege Rhino
1 Thrun, The Last Troll
Spells - 20
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 abrupt decay
2 maelstrom pulse
1 slaughter pact
1 path to exile
1 Disfigure
1 damnation
3 lingering souls
NCP - 4
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Bow of Nylea
4 verdant Catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 windswept heath
2 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 overgrown tomb
1 godless shrine
1 temple garden
1 Treetop Village
2 stirring wildwood
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Thrun, the last troll
2 Duress
1 Creeping Corrosion
2 Stony Silence
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Back to nature
1 Utter End
1 Golgari Charm
Trade Thread
Modern
RWGBurnGWR
GUInfectUG
GRTronRG
UWGifts TronWU
URBGrixis DelverBRU
RGWZooWGR
Legacy
BUWTinFinsWUB
UROmniTellRU
BURTESRUB
GElves!G
GBPSIBG
RGBelcherGR
UBRGWDredgeWGRBU
UBAffinityBU
RBurnR
Vintage
UBGDoomsdayGBU
0Martello Shops0
GElves!G
UBTPSBU
UBelcherU
0Dredge0
Paper: WUR Waffle Control, RG and U Tron
MTGO: U Tron, BRG Living End, B Infect
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Hermit Druid Combo:
Hex Parasite does it million time better.
2 casting for 4 damage is really awesome. BOROS burn. LOl
someting like.
4 boros charm
4 lightning bolt
etc etc...
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UBW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
Modern - Mono U tron / Polymorph / NFTW (ninja for the win)GR tron GR
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Buy All the fetches!
Create tons of EDH Decks!!!
Eat Nothing but Oats!! (LOL, not true)
Train MMA!!!
Marry My girlfriend!!!
Get her Pregnant only Once!
Teach my Son/Daughter Sports and magic cards!!!
Continue my legacy son!!!/Daughter!!
If Incinerate isn't good enough for Legacy Burn, Lightning Helix won't be either.
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