Dimir Infiltrator is there to fetch all the 2cc spells in the deck. Echoing Truth bounce the tokens my opponent gets when playing Hunted Horror and Hunted Phantasm. Echoing Decay kill the Goblin tokens and other creatuers too. Thank you for your input. Please give more advice. Thanks!
- dimir infiltrator, + muddle the mixture. the counter spell will sometimes be useful and it should be slightly easier to transmute.
Other than that, I can promise you that you don't have enough consistency. With ponder or preordain, you'll do a lot better. With 8 of these, you can run less of other cards and still be more consistent.
That is true. With Ponder and/or Preodrain the deck would be more consistent. And Muddle the Mixture I see is more useful than the Dimir Infiltrator.
So I drop four Dimir Infiltrator and add four Muddle the Mixture.
Add four of each Ponder and Preordain, 8 cards total. Then I can go down on some of the other cards, but not shure where I should cut. Could Brainstorm be an alternative also? Please help.
Thanks for your advice so far, look forward to further comments.
If your going to run Hunted Horror with torpid orb, might as well run Phyrexian Dreadnought and Stifle as well.
K so change out the $1.50 for the Horror and Torpor Orb. For the $30 for the Dreadnought Stifle package. Clearly his/her best option.
On a more helpful note I think that brainstorm may very well help u alot. My question is how are you gonna deal with the expensive cards (FoW) on the cheap? The only card that comes to mind is Nix. This is of course a fairly specific Sb card.
Flamebaiting? This is neither the budget section of the forum nor did the thread author specifically state he's tight on cash. Anyways, dreadnought and stifle are still very viable with the existing combo. They add more consistency as both stifle and dreadnought could be used in conjunction with hunted horrors and torpid orb.
First I would like to say, that this is not meant to be a tournament deck. So I would not fear to much the use of Force of Will and such. It is more for casual use, but I still want it to be quite competitive and fun to play.
But the combo with Gilded Drake alongside Isochron Scepter and Boomerang is something I think is nice, and would like to keep. Thus I would like to try to make the deck without Torpor Orb as well, as strange as that might be.
Also there must be some room for any of and in any quantities of Ponder, Preordain and/or Brainstorm. What to drop and what should I add?
I saw that the deck needed more consistency, so i cut 1 Echoing Truth, 1 Echoing Decay and 2 Muddle the Mixture to make place for 4 Ponder. Some hand disruption could be good, like Duress, but not sure if there is room for it.
Please help me. In advance, thank you.
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Here is my deck:
4x Creeping Tar Pit
4x Watery Grave
4x Sunken Ruins
4x Reflecting Pool
4x Underground River
2x River of Tears
4x Hunted Horror
4x Hunted Phantasm
4x Gilded Drake
Instant
4x Echoing Truth
4x Echoing Decay
4x Boomerang
4x Muddle the Mixture
4x Counterspell
4x Isochron Scepter
2x Ratchet Bomb
Please help me.
In advance, thank you.
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Dimir Infiltrator is there to fetch all the 2cc spells in the deck. Echoing Truth bounce the tokens my opponent gets when playing Hunted Horror and Hunted Phantasm. Echoing Decay kill the Goblin tokens and other creatuers too. Thank you for your input. Please give more advice. Thanks!
Other than that, I can promise you that you don't have enough consistency. With ponder or preordain, you'll do a lot better. With 8 of these, you can run less of other cards and still be more consistent.
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So I drop four Dimir Infiltrator and add four Muddle the Mixture.
Add four of each Ponder and Preordain, 8 cards total. Then I can go down on some of the other cards, but not shure where I should cut. Could Brainstorm be an alternative also? Please help.
Thanks for your advice so far, look forward to further comments.
K so change out the $1.50 for the Horror and Torpor Orb. For the $30 for the Dreadnought Stifle package. Clearly his/her best option.
On a more helpful note I think that brainstorm may very well help u alot. My question is how are you gonna deal with the expensive cards (FoW) on the cheap? The only card that comes to mind is Nix. This is of course a fairly specific Sb card.
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Retired: Grixis Control 15-1
UR Pyromancer 4-0
3-Color White Spirits
Goblins
G/W Hate
MBC
I am most probably not going to run the Phyrexian Dreadnought/Stifle package, as I only have one Phyrexian Dreadnought and no Stifles. But I see the quality with those cards, thanks.
But the combo with Gilded Drake alongside Isochron Scepter and Boomerang is something I think is nice, and would like to keep. Thus I would like to try to make the deck without Torpor Orb as well, as strange as that might be.
Also there must be some room for any of and in any quantities of Ponder, Preordain and/or Brainstorm. What to drop and what should I add?
I have decided to add four Muddle the Mixture instead of Dimir Infiltrator.
In advance, thank you!
4x Creeping Tar Pit
4x Watery Grave
4x Sunken Ruins
4x Reflecting Pool
4x Underground River
2x River of Tears
4x Hunted Horror
4x Hunted Phantasm
4x Gilded Drake
Instant
3x Echoing Truth
3x Echoing Decay
4x Boomerang
2x Muddle the Mixture
4x Counterspell
4x Ponder
Artifact
4x Isochron Scepter
2x Ratchet Bomb
I saw that the deck needed more consistency, so i cut 1 Echoing Truth, 1 Echoing Decay and 2 Muddle the Mixture to make place for 4 Ponder. Some hand disruption could be good, like Duress, but not sure if there is room for it.
Please help me. In advance, thank you.