When it's easy, it's easy. But when it's difficult, it can be extremely difficult. Much like... any combo deck. Infect also suffers more from variance than some other combo decks.
When it's easy, it's easy. But when it's difficult, it can be extremely difficult. Much like... any combo deck. Infect also suffers more from variance than some other combo decks.
idk man I played 2 infect decks at a local tournament today and I was dead by turn 3 every game. That's 4 games in a row. Didn't see much variance.
Turn 2 Invigorate, Invigorate, Invigorate. Game's over. Swords to Plowshares
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I sided in the Trinispheres and the Chalices. Got chalice out too late though. I was dead by turn 2 or turn 3 every game. I got chalice out for 1 on turn 2 once, but it was too late. I was already at 8 counters, and he didn't even need pump effect after that anymore anyway.
Deck seemed to work fine in my other matchups. Even beat affinity. At least in those games I have 20 life instead of basically 10 infect gives me.
So your deck does fine against other decks but loses to a fast deck. You deck looks super slow and much more casual than any sort of MUD deck I've ever seen. So... Welcome to magic?
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I sided in the Trinispheres and the Chalices. Got chalice out too late though. I was dead by turn 2 or turn 3 every game. I got chalice out for 1 on turn 2 once, but it was too late. I was already at 8 counters, and he didn't even need pump effect after that anymore anyway.
Deck seemed to work fine in my other matchups. Even beat affinity. At least in those games I have 20 life instead of basically 10 infect gives me.
Affinity is far from a tier 1 deck in Legacy though. Your deck would fold equally flat to any of the fast combo decks. Storm, Belcher, Dredge, Omnitell, Sneak and Show, Painter decks... Those are all going to be almost unwinnable for you short of getting hate cards out incredibly early. You're playing a non-tier deck in legacy against a tier 1 deck. IT should be expected it's going to be a hard matchup.
I would look into the MUD deck primers in the legacy section to figure out what they're doing that gives them edges in these sorts of matchups. Other MUD decks can easily get a Chalice of the Void or Trinisphere out much earlier than turn 3.
Most Mud lists run 3-4 Chalice and 3-4 3Sphere in the main, along with 4-8 sol lands and perhaps some Grim Monolith. Also Lodestone Golem. And... have you looked up competitive MUD lists?
Most Mud lists run 3-4 Chalice and 3-4 3Sphere in the main, along with 4-8 sol lands and perhaps some Grim Monolith. Also Lodestone Golem. And... have you looked up competitive MUD lists?
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Turn 2 Invigorate, Invigorate, Invigorate. Game's over.
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idk man I played 2 infect decks at a local tournament today and I was dead by turn 3 every game. That's 4 games in a row. Didn't see much variance.
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4x Glimmerpost
4x Vesuva
4x Eldrazi Temple
4x Deserted TEmple
1x Eye of Ugin
3x Mishra's Factory
1x Mystifying Maze
4x Everflowing Chalice
4x Thran Dynamo
4x Expedition Map
4x Quicksilver Amulet
3x All is Dust
3x Oblivion Stone
2x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
2x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
4x Wurmcoil Engine
2x Steel Hellkite
1x Karn Liberated
2x Sundering Titan
2x Cursed Totem
3x Pithing Needle
2x Relic of Progenitus
3x Chalice of the Void
3x Trinisphere
I sided in the Trinispheres and the Chalices. Got chalice out too late though. I was dead by turn 2 or turn 3 every game. I got chalice out for 1 on turn 2 once, but it was too late. I was already at 8 counters, and he didn't even need pump effect after that anymore anyway.
Deck seemed to work fine in my other matchups. Even beat affinity. At least in those games I have 20 life instead of basically 10 infect gives me.
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I have 3 in sideboard. Didn't see any of them in any game 2's.
Edit: not to mention the earliest they could come out is turn 3, and by then I'm dead.
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Affinity is far from a tier 1 deck in Legacy though. Your deck would fold equally flat to any of the fast combo decks. Storm, Belcher, Dredge, Omnitell, Sneak and Show, Painter decks... Those are all going to be almost unwinnable for you short of getting hate cards out incredibly early. You're playing a non-tier deck in legacy against a tier 1 deck. IT should be expected it's going to be a hard matchup.
I would look into the MUD deck primers in the legacy section to figure out what they're doing that gives them edges in these sorts of matchups. Other MUD decks can easily get a Chalice of the Void or Trinisphere out much earlier than turn 3.
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