Alright, first off, check my signature. Has all the decks I play at the moment, with Death & Taxes and Boss Sligh being my 'pet' decks. Merfolk is only Modern because I do not have Force of Wills.
Now I ask the question because I am always cruising through this forum and the established decklists for Legacy (my favourite format by far, but no events in my area so it's all casual). I may see a deck and say, that's pretty cool, come back a few weeks later and really want to make it. At the moment I'm trying to make manaless dredge (did not like the idea a month ago but now seems fun), a month ago I decided to buy the rest of my Affinity deck for Legacy (3 Tezzert, Agent of Bolas), and 2 months before that I started building Reanimator (stopped after trying a cheap version of it). At the moment I really like the idea of combo/control in the High Tide deck. I try and stick to mono-colour decks since I only have Shocks as a mana base and it seems to extremely cut the cost of the format to get into a new deck that way.
I was wondering am I getting too deep into Legacy even if it's casual with my mates? Like I love the power of the format, and love trying out the successful decklists, but am I going to far? Should I limit myself to how many Legacy decks too keep? (I will not be adding anymore decks to Modern, so Modern does not seem like a problem for me)
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It only becomes "too deep" when it's actively causing problems for your life or your finances. You shouldn't have to worry about anything as long as it's not causing any harm and you're having fun with it. Don't judge your enjoyment of this game by what others might potentially think of you.
I'm still trying to decide where my next deck decision should be, but I collect foil and expensive versions of my main deck. I'd say you're doing fine at the moment. All else fails: proxy!
I would agree with the previous replies: As long as it isn't a hindering you life otherwise, there is no reason to feel like you are going too deep. Keep in mind that bouncing between decks will make you a 'Jack of all trades, but a master of none'. If you do play the format more than just casually with your friends, you may find yourself outplayed by a lot of people who have committed to one deck and have been grinding with it for some time. Making new decks and bouncing around is very fun (I do the same thing) but make sure you know how to play at least one deck VERY well.
Another thing I would suggest is getting into Legacy on MTGO. With Vintage Masters, the cards have become much cheaper AND you can play in events multiple times each day. Having the same deck on MODO and paper can really help you improve your play.
Lastly, I should admit that I have the same 'problem' (if you want to call it that) that you do: I LOVE finding new decks and I find enjoyment from budgeting myself and finding the cards for $x or below. However, since I am also saving to buy a house, I am done buying new decks after I finish DnT (and TES.... and DnT on MODO)
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I guess to put it a little differently, I can build every legacy deck plus numerous brews I try to push on others. I love the format and the game and use my collection to help others play. It isn't hurting me in any way and is simply my number one hobby.
If you are uncomfortable with where you sit then that is your choice and the opinions of others should not sway you otherwise.
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All of what everyone said is relevant, but the one thing I haven't noticed, is someone mentioning how much time you have to devote to your hobby. If time is an issue, then being able to build 20 decks is really irrelevant. That said, if you have the time, brewing is awesome and a great way to blow some time and like you said, help your buddies
I have to disagree with "Jack of all trades, master of none." When you do decide on the deck you prefer to master above all others, your experience piloting the others and their key cards and plays will invaluable. A base example is deciding what to name/when to cast your Cabal Therapy with TES/Ad Nauseum when your opponent's T1 play is basic plains vs. volcanic island, or what part of a storm chain you counter when playing AGAINST TES/Ad Nauseum.
But I think there's never such a thing as "getting too much into Legacy." I mean, unless you're starting to work nights on the street corners to pay for dual lands. Then you should maybe consider dialing it back a bit.
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I have to disagree with "Jack of all trades, master of none." When you do decide on the deck you prefer to master above all others, your experience piloting the others and their key cards and plays will invaluable. A base example is deciding what to name/when to cast your Cabal Therapy with TES/Ad Nauseum when your opponent's T1 play is basic plains vs. volcanic island, or what part of a storm chain you counter when playing AGAINST TES/Ad Nauseum.
But I think there's never such a thing as "getting too much into Legacy." I mean, unless you're starting to work nights on the street corners to pay for dual lands. Then you should maybe consider dialing it back a bit.
I wouldn't disagree with this. I am currently running Pod in Modern because I noticed I was weak to it. My only argument would be that since Legacy is more diverse and complicated, mastering your deck is more important in this format.
I could be wrong though. Either way, if making new decks is part of the fun for you, no reason to stop. You can always sell off a deck or two if you find yourself not having fun with them. I am actually doing that with Omnitell right now.
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Come along on a Tuesday and see one of the regulars Foil lands deck. When you hit that point, your in too deep. Until then, go as far as you like. It's not like most of these cards are going down in value. So if you decide to walk away, your toasty.
Also those Lili's have made their way into Legacy Jund, I owe you a pat on the back for that.
Come along on a Tuesday and see one of the regulars Foil lands deck. When you hit that point, your in too deep. Until then, go as far as you like. It's not like most of these cards are going down in value. So if you decide to walk away, your toasty.
Also those Lili's have made their way into Legacy Jund, I owe you a pat on the back for that.
I'm one of those Foil Lands types (It's my favorite archetype - surprise). I have other decks and whatever, and I play them and do things but it's whatever. I wouldn't even call that too deep. It's more a reflection of accumulation of trade power to a point where I push some to having the ultra-luxury versions of the 76 I spent the most time with. It's a thing. Not a thing I recommend out of the gate for anyone, but some of my Lands cards (MPR Wastelands) which I either had mailed to me or traded for for very little by today's standards are now worth nauseating amounts according to vendors/ebay/tcgplayer.
I'm not sure there is a "too deep", but you might know it for yourself if you get there.
Come along on a Tuesday and see one of the regulars Foil lands deck. When you hit that point, your in too deep. Until then, go as far as you like. It's not like most of these cards are going down in value. So if you decide to walk away, your toasty.
Also those Lili's have made their way into Legacy Jund, I owe you a pat on the back for that.
Ouch, legacy on a Tuesday night plus a foiled lands deck can only mean one thing.. That's me! I think.
But yeah, I made the decision a long time ago to foil my favorite legacy deck, and I would say it's pretty deep in. I got many of the cards cheaper than they are now, and had to trade/buy/sell and work the market to afford what I could over the span of 2+ years. I could probably have a playset of each dual land with the decks contents, now.
No Sparki, I do not think it is you since Brentane and I both live in Australia. (I actually bought my Lili's off him and the local scene has hated me ever since.)
I think really though, in too deep is kind of a personal thing. I mean I have a large collection, but others locally have much more than I do. I think you will draw the line when you feel it is right for you. While I like decks like Painter and will do whatever I can to make it look pretty (Alpha REB's, Beta Duals and white bordered Imp's) others would rather put that money into things like getting together every possible Delver venerate and then stopping there. You will know your wall when you hit it. It's not something that you can really ask the Internet as I feel that individual wants, needs and situations will shape how far they are willing to go and where they will put on the breaks.
No Sparki, I do not think it is you since Brentane and I both live in Australia. (I actually bought my Lili's off him and the local scene has hated me ever since.)
I think really though, in too deep is kind of a personal thing. I mean I have a large collection, but others locally have much more than I do. I think you will draw the line when you feel it is right for you. While I like decks like Painter and will do whatever I can to make it look pretty (Alpha REB's, Beta Duals and white bordered Imp's) others would rather put that money into things like getting together every possible Delver venerate and then stopping there. You will know your wall when you hit it. It's not something that you can really ask the Internet as I feel that individual wants, needs and situations will shape how far they are willing to go and where they will put on the breaks.
Ah, well it's nice to know there are others out there
I thought it might be "Brisbane" as in Brisbane, CA, which is fairly close to where I live.
But yeah. It's nice to be able to pimp your decks the way you want, some people like japanese cards, some want everything black bordered (some white bordered!), some just want the deck put together. Like I said earlier, its your hobby, do how you wish. You'll definitely know if it becomes a problem.
There are many posters on this forum who have 40+ duals, 40+ fetches, multiple playsets of Forces/Wasteland, etc and I don't think they're too deep. As long as it isn't affecting your life outside of magic, I'd say you're fine.
In my opinion the standard for "too deep" is entirely subjective. Ask yourself, would a reasonable person in similar circumstances as you (income, expenses, age, hobbies, etc.) think your MTG purchases are too deep?
If you have to ask, you should consider that somewhere inside you fear you are pushing your limits (time-wise, financially...) and could be at risk for temporizing a real life important task/commitment. Try not to be consoled by what you are reading here and look within - I wouldn't be surprised if you already know the answer.
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Now I ask the question because I am always cruising through this forum and the established decklists for Legacy (my favourite format by far, but no events in my area so it's all casual). I may see a deck and say, that's pretty cool, come back a few weeks later and really want to make it. At the moment I'm trying to make manaless dredge (did not like the idea a month ago but now seems fun), a month ago I decided to buy the rest of my Affinity deck for Legacy (3 Tezzert, Agent of Bolas), and 2 months before that I started building Reanimator (stopped after trying a cheap version of it). At the moment I really like the idea of combo/control in the High Tide deck. I try and stick to mono-colour decks since I only have Shocks as a mana base and it seems to extremely cut the cost of the format to get into a new deck that way.
I was wondering am I getting too deep into Legacy even if it's casual with my mates? Like I love the power of the format, and love trying out the successful decklists, but am I going to far? Should I limit myself to how many Legacy decks too keep? (I will not be adding anymore decks to Modern, so Modern does not seem like a problem for me)
U Merfolk | GR Tron | WUR Jeskai Control | WBG Abzan Company
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G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
Some people are content with a single deck and play variations of it. (I really, really like the lands/stax archtype)
Others play multiple decks or brew something new every few weeks.
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Another thing I would suggest is getting into Legacy on MTGO. With Vintage Masters, the cards have become much cheaper AND you can play in events multiple times each day. Having the same deck on MODO and paper can really help you improve your play.
Lastly, I should admit that I have the same 'problem' (if you want to call it that) that you do: I LOVE finding new decks and I find enjoyment from budgeting myself and finding the cards for $x or below. However, since I am also saving to buy a house, I am done buying new decks after I finish DnT (and TES.... and DnT on MODO)
RGOmnath, Locus of ManaRG
URThe Locust godUR
Modern
UWMiraclesUW
Legacy
BGIce Station Zebra (Living Fins)BG
UBRGrixis ControlUBR
RGLandsRG
If you are uncomfortable with where you sit then that is your choice and the opinions of others should not sway you otherwise.
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But I think there's never such a thing as "getting too much into Legacy." I mean, unless you're starting to work nights on the street corners to pay for dual lands. Then you should maybe consider dialing it back a bit.
EDH: Grand Arbiter $tax, Freyalise Stompy, Mimeoplasm Death From the Grave
I wouldn't disagree with this. I am currently running Pod in Modern because I noticed I was weak to it. My only argument would be that since Legacy is more diverse and complicated, mastering your deck is more important in this format.
I could be wrong though. Either way, if making new decks is part of the fun for you, no reason to stop. You can always sell off a deck or two if you find yourself not having fun with them. I am actually doing that with Omnitell right now.
RGOmnath, Locus of ManaRG
URThe Locust godUR
Modern
UWMiraclesUW
Legacy
BGIce Station Zebra (Living Fins)BG
UBRGrixis ControlUBR
RGLandsRG
Also those Lili's have made their way into Legacy Jund, I owe you a pat on the back for that.
Current decks of choice:
Vintage: Shops.
Legacy: Lands.
Modern: Lantern.
I'm one of those Foil Lands types (It's my favorite archetype - surprise). I have other decks and whatever, and I play them and do things but it's whatever. I wouldn't even call that too deep. It's more a reflection of accumulation of trade power to a point where I push some to having the ultra-luxury versions of the 76 I spent the most time with. It's a thing. Not a thing I recommend out of the gate for anyone, but some of my Lands cards (MPR Wastelands) which I either had mailed to me or traded for for very little by today's standards are now worth nauseating amounts according to vendors/ebay/tcgplayer.
I'm not sure there is a "too deep", but you might know it for yourself if you get there.
Big Thanks to Xeno for sig art <3.
Ouch, legacy on a Tuesday night plus a foiled lands deck can only mean one thing.. That's me! I think.
But yeah, I made the decision a long time ago to foil my favorite legacy deck, and I would say it's pretty deep in. I got many of the cards cheaper than they are now, and had to trade/buy/sell and work the market to afford what I could over the span of 2+ years. I could probably have a playset of each dual land with the decks contents, now.
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I think really though, in too deep is kind of a personal thing. I mean I have a large collection, but others locally have much more than I do. I think you will draw the line when you feel it is right for you. While I like decks like Painter and will do whatever I can to make it look pretty (Alpha REB's, Beta Duals and white bordered Imp's) others would rather put that money into things like getting together every possible Delver venerate and then stopping there. You will know your wall when you hit it. It's not something that you can really ask the Internet as I feel that individual wants, needs and situations will shape how far they are willing to go and where they will put on the breaks.
Current decks of choice:
Vintage: Shops.
Legacy: Lands.
Modern: Lantern.
Ah, well it's nice to know there are others out there
I thought it might be "Brisbane" as in Brisbane, CA, which is fairly close to where I live.
But yeah. It's nice to be able to pimp your decks the way you want, some people like japanese cards, some want everything black bordered (some white bordered!), some just want the deck put together. Like I said earlier, its your hobby, do how you wish. You'll definitely know if it becomes a problem.
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Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero