Sneak and Shows worst matchup is its own library. Sad, but true. But if you really want to cut down to those two options, Reanimator is about to take flack from the new Delve cards and Sneak and show gained a fair amount from Dig. I would go with Sneak.
I have been looking to get into Legacy for a while and have finally decided to have a go at it.
I play on MTGO and am looking for a deck that would be competitive in the dailies
I am looking for a deck that will cost less than 500 tickets
I dislike playing aggro unless it is a Control/Aggro Blend.
I like to play combo decks and in Modern i play Scapeshift
I really like to play control decks but most of them in legacy seem to be out of my price range
Hello all, I am looking for opinions. I am debating between reanimator and sneak/show. I love both decks but I want to know which one is going to be a more consistent performer.
I'd honestly say go Reanimator if your love a toolbox deck. It will ALWAYS put a fatty onto the field turn 2 and 3. It's very consistent. Sneak and Show relies on cantrip spells most of the game and is a deck with no toolbox element.
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I have been looking to get into Legacy for a while and have finally decided to have a go at it.
I play on MTGO and am looking for a deck that would be competitive in the dailies
I am looking for a deck that will cost less than 500 tickets
I dislike playing aggro unless it is a Control/Aggro Blend.
I like to play combo decks and in Modern i play Scapeshift
I really like to play control decks but most of them in legacy seem to be out of my price range
You might like legacy's monored aggro-combo-prison-control deck: Imperial painter. Its ~550$ Online if you have nothing, but about half of that expense is cards that are modern staples.
Yea as i was looking through the decks in legacy over last night and a bit today, Imperial Painter was one that i liked the look of but i also really like the look of Dredge and Adnausem Tendrils.
Which one out of the three would you say is more competitive in the mtgo meta?
They are all good decks. ANT puts up the best results, followed by painters and then dredge. But that is not by huge margines. Painter definitely offers the most variety and interaction. There are a lot of tricks with the deck. I would recommend watching some past SCG streams where people are playing painter, or if there are any MTGO streamers that play painter watch them as well. Two "pros" that play painter are Cedric Philips and Lejay/Mary Jean Accart but I am not sure if they stream.
Elves is a also a deck you might like. It is fairly cheap online, and easily one of the top 5 best decks in the format right now.
I think Painter is better right now. Issue with Ad Nauseam decks is that knowing your lines is important, so you can easily lose games just because you didnt realize a line. I also am big on Blood Moon decks as on MTGO, duals are cheaper and people will play them even more.
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I was a big Manaless Dredge and Burn guy but I wanted to try a more stable and fun deck. I grew bored of them after a few months.
I tried Dark Depths, Nic Fit, Goblin Stompy, Werewolves, Enchantress, and even affinity. But none of them, besides Werewolves, really spoke to me. So if anything, I really enjoy Chalice Aggro
I also really like black and Pox decks, but I'm kinda budgeted. 400-500 is my range, but I can spend more if need be.
I was a big Manaless Dredge and Burn guy but I wanted to try a more stable and fun deck. I grew bored of them after a few months.
I tried Dark Depths, Nic Fit, Goblin Stompy, Werewolves, Enchantress, and even affinity. But none of them, besides Werewolves, really spoke to me. So if anything, I really enjoy Chalice Aggro
I also really like black and Pox decks, but I'm kinda budgeted. 400-500 is my range, but I can spend more if need be.
Well, you’re really giving me a workout trying to find the deck that fits these criteria! Of course, nobody can ever really say what’s going to constitute fun for another person. Of the decks you mentioned, the one that I’d consider the most fun would be Nic Fit. What could be more fun than recycling Pernicious Deeds? Goblin Stompy is also a wicked fun deck for me, when it does what it does… the problem being that it pretty much never did what it did for me, the deck was pretty all-in and linear. Burn and Dredge are both super linear and as non-interactive as possible, which is what makes them good decks, if a bit unsatisfying to pilot exclusively for a long period of time.
I’ve played a lot of Chalice decks in my time, and the one I enjoyed the most was MUD with Goblin Welder. Welder really does stupid things. Painter also runs Welder and also does stupid things, but I think the problem here is that both of these decks require a pretty serious investment into City of Traitors… and the creatures are non-trivial, MUD requiring Metalworker and Wurmcoil Engine, and Painter wanting to play Imperial Recruiter. If you already have City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb, exploring the rest of the Chalice deck family might be the way to go. Welder MUD really is a lot of fun. A good MUD hand is just unbeatable, though of course you have to stomach a fair share of not-so-good, eminently-beatable hands along the way.
Merfolk is also playing Chalice of the Void these days. It doubles as a Modern deck, and if there is one purchase decision that you won’t regret in this game, it’s Force of Will.
I'm planning to participate in a leg league the a LGS runs. However there are a considerable amount of burn players that scares me away from using Jund outright (I'd probably use Jund in the final weeks where it's usually the Top 8's going against each other) The Top 8 players play:
Death and Taxes
RUG Delver
BUG Delver
Esper Deathblade
TES
Elves
Esper Stoneblade
Shardless BUG
So in the meantime the current decks I got built are:
U/B Reanimator which has been doing me well but when I get the daily Top 4 contention I lose to one of those decks listed above.
Mono-R Painter- Components of the deck are borrowed.
R/W Painter- Same deal but only 2 plateau's at my disposal.
Punishing Jund- Losses to burn end up leading to more losses to burn in a day.
I guess what I'm asking is what gives me a solid burn matchup but has game against the decks above.
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Otherwise I think I would suggest grixis delver/pyromancer. That shell should give you the most overlap. Also young frankenstein should also have a lot of overlap.
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Otherwise I think I would suggest grixis delver/pyromancer. That shell should give you the most overlap. Also young frankenstein should also have a lot of overlap.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
I want to play my shiny new playset of foil Treasure Cruise as well as my Tropical Islands. In other words, I'm looking for a UG (no other colors) deck that doesn't run Tarmogoyf (because of 4x Treasure Cruise). Does such a thing exist, or do I need to make it?
I want to play my shiny new playset of foil Treasure Cruise as well as my Tropical Islands. In other words, I'm looking for a UG (no other colors) deck that doesn't run Tarmogoyf (because of 4x Treasure Cruise). Does such a thing exist, or do I need to make it?
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
If it doesn't exist then lets make something! How about a traditional u/g food chain list with the Treasure Cruise to possibly exile misthollow griffin while also delving. It's probably not optimal, but it is the only deck u/g deck that i can possible see using cruise that also doesnt run goyf.
A variant of NO Bant dropping white is probably doable. There's nothing premade for you to choose, but if one of these ideas strikes your fancy, I'd recommend starting a thread in Developing so that we can help flesh it out.
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
Quote from LuckNorris »
ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
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ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
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:ER:, you suck as a hero
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Current decks of choice:
Vintage: Shops.
Legacy: Lands.
Modern: Lantern.
I play on MTGO and am looking for a deck that would be competitive in the dailies
I am looking for a deck that will cost less than 500 tickets
I dislike playing aggro unless it is a Control/Aggro Blend.
I like to play combo decks and in Modern i play Scapeshift
I really like to play control decks but most of them in legacy seem to be out of my price range
I'd honestly say go Reanimator if your love a toolbox deck. It will ALWAYS put a fatty onto the field turn 2 and 3. It's very consistent. Sneak and Show relies on cantrip spells most of the game and is a deck with no toolbox element.
U Merfolk | GR Tron | WUR Jeskai Control | WBG Abzan Company
EDH:
G Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fighting for Rivendell
WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
You might like legacy's monored aggro-combo-prison-control deck: Imperial painter. Its ~550$ Online if you have nothing, but about half of that expense is cards that are modern staples.
Which one out of the three would you say is more competitive in the mtgo meta?
Elves is a also a deck you might like. It is fairly cheap online, and easily one of the top 5 best decks in the format right now.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI'm a fan of combo decks, red decks, and aggro.
I'm okay at midrange decks.
Looking for a deck to invest in and learn to love.
Thanks.
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Current decks of choice:
Vintage: Shops.
Legacy: Lands.
Modern: Lantern.
Have you considered Aluren? It's midrange-combo with some significant room for continued tuning and learning.
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That bolded part makes this a really difficult question to answer.
What decks have you tried, and why have you ultimately found each one unsatisfactory?
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
I tried Dark Depths, Nic Fit, Goblin Stompy, Werewolves, Enchantress, and even affinity. But none of them, besides Werewolves, really spoke to me. So if anything, I really enjoy Chalice Aggro
I also really like black and Pox decks, but I'm kinda budgeted. 400-500 is my range, but I can spend more if need be.
"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than 'good job'." -Terrance Fletcher, Whiplash (2014)
Well, you’re really giving me a workout trying to find the deck that fits these criteria! Of course, nobody can ever really say what’s going to constitute fun for another person. Of the decks you mentioned, the one that I’d consider the most fun would be Nic Fit. What could be more fun than recycling Pernicious Deeds? Goblin Stompy is also a wicked fun deck for me, when it does what it does… the problem being that it pretty much never did what it did for me, the deck was pretty all-in and linear. Burn and Dredge are both super linear and as non-interactive as possible, which is what makes them good decks, if a bit unsatisfying to pilot exclusively for a long period of time.
I’ve played a lot of Chalice decks in my time, and the one I enjoyed the most was MUD with Goblin Welder. Welder really does stupid things. Painter also runs Welder and also does stupid things, but I think the problem here is that both of these decks require a pretty serious investment into City of Traitors… and the creatures are non-trivial, MUD requiring Metalworker and Wurmcoil Engine, and Painter wanting to play Imperial Recruiter. If you already have City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb, exploring the rest of the Chalice deck family might be the way to go. Welder MUD really is a lot of fun. A good MUD hand is just unbeatable, though of course you have to stomach a fair share of not-so-good, eminently-beatable hands along the way.
Merfolk is also playing Chalice of the Void these days. It doubles as a Modern deck, and if there is one purchase decision that you won’t regret in this game, it’s Force of Will.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
Death and Taxes
RUG Delver
BUG Delver
Esper Deathblade
TES
Elves
Esper Stoneblade
Shardless BUG
So in the meantime the current decks I got built are:
U/B Reanimator which has been doing me well but when I get the daily Top 4 contention I lose to one of those decks listed above.
Mono-R Painter- Components of the deck are borrowed.
R/W Painter- Same deal but only 2 plateau's at my disposal.
Punishing Jund- Losses to burn end up leading to more losses to burn in a day.
I guess what I'm asking is what gives me a solid burn matchup but has game against the decks above.
R/W Devotion
Mono-R Devotion
Legacy
Burn
Punishing Jund
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Is Tin Fins too close to your existing deck for what you're asking? That deck probably is the one with the greatest overlap.
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Otherwise I think I would suggest grixis delver/pyromancer. That shell should give you the most overlap. Also young frankenstein should also have a lot of overlap.
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What's Young Frankenstein?
I doubt such a thing exists at the moment.
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