I am thinking of building a Legacy Faerie deck.
Can anyone post links to the top tier decklists?
Is it worth building? Is Bitterblossom a core piece of the deck?
Faeries isn't top tier so I don't know what to say.
The problem with Faerie tribal is that there are few cards that synergize with other Faeries. Bitterblossom and Vendilion Clique for example doesn't really do anything when played together.
Bitterblossom is decent in some matchups like UW Control but might not do anything in other matchups like RUG Delver.
Like he said, there isn't a real reason to commit yourself to faeries. The only reasonable cards are Bitterblossom, Vendilion Clique, and I suppose Spellstutter Sprite, only 1 of which even cares about "faeries" as a creature type and barely at that (countering 1 drops is it's primary purpose). Mistbind Clique was the reason but it's just not a good card in Legacy.
You can play a faeries-esque deck with Snapcaster Mage, Vendilion Clique with countermagic/discard and it might be ok. Bitterblossom might be decent, I think I would rather have Dark Confidant and not restrict myself to using cards simply because they say Faerie on them.
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Like he said, there isn't a real reason to commit yourself to faeries. The only reasonable cards are Bitterblossom, Vendilion Clique, and I suppose Spellstutter Sprite, only 1 of which even cares about "faeries" as a creature type and barely at that (countering 1 drops is it's primary purpose). Mistbind Clique was the reason but it's just not a good card in Legacy.
You can play a faeries-esque deck with Snapcaster Mage, Vendilion Clique with countermagic/discard and it might be ok. Bitterblossom might be decent, I think I would rather have Dark Confidant and not restrict myself to using cards simply because they say Faerie on them.
You can certainly make a successful deck that plays a game similar to the standard Faeries.
Using Flash creatures to hold open mana for other options. Clique, Sprite, Snapcaster, with Riptide Lab and Mutavault to start. Not sure what you are holding up mana for because so many spells in Legacy are free or 1 or 2 cmc.
I'm not putting too much thought into this but I'm sure it can work.
Scion and Mistbind are for the most part too expensive for legacy play. Clique and Bitterblossom are still played a fair amount, and Spellstutter shows up on occasion in Stoneblade decks, as well as in a couple of rogue decks (Faerie Stompy, which runs Chalice of the Void as one of its key components, and FaerieNinjaStill, which runs Spellstutter, Cloud of Faeries, and occasionally Zephyr Sprite alongside Ninjas and Standstill)
You could try to make Legacy Faeries work, but I'm just not sure it's going to be good enough.
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The closest you can get to legacy faeries is esperblade. At least that's the best version of faeries right now, I know when I played the deck it was grixis but not playing SFM was a mistake. SFM + bitterblossom is insanely good. Back in those days I also ran tombstalker in the deck but tombstalker has fallen out of legacy in a big way since lots of people run jace, the mind sculptor and entreat for X=2 answers stalker quite handily. But anyways if you built faeries right now it would be something along the lines of esper tempo essentially, which I'm not sure is good in legacy right now.
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Are those the reasons why i cannot find any Legacy Faerie decklists in the recent years? What i gathered were Legacy Faeries isnt top tier and its higher-tier variant, EsperBlade isnt well-positioned in the metagame.
Which brings me to the questions: Are Crytic Command and Bitterblossom worth buying for a Causal Faerie deck? Are they the core pieces?
PS: Why are other people calling the end of Legacy when i received support so promptly?!
Bitterblossom isn't exactly a Legacy staple in the sense that Brainstorm, Wasteland, and the like but it is a card that is played in a handful of competitive decks, like Zombardment, and BW Stoneblade. It's a powerful, probably a little underplayed card.
Cryptic Command on the other hand is a classic case of an overpowered card that's too expensive cmc-wise to see play. It shares this spot with cards like Bloodbraid Elf, Fact or Fiction, and Gifts Ungiven.. Four mana in Legacy is typically reserved for game ending effects like Jace. Cryptic Command is incredibly strong, but four mana is just very hard to do when you have Wasteland, Rishidan Port, Daze, Thalia, and Spell Pierce. Add in the fact that one of the best sideboard cards in the format is Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast, so many decks can counter your heavy investment for one mana. It has seen some play in the past in some fringe decks like mono U control, but lately cheaper countermagic has been printed that keeps up with Legacy's speed more effectively, and Jace has kind of monopolized thebfour cmc slot in blue decks.
Bitterblossom isn't exactly a Legacy staple in the sense that Brainstorm, Wasteland, and the like but it is a card that is played in a handful of competitive decks, like Zombardment, and BW Stoneblade. It's a powerful, probably a little underplayed card.
Cryptic Command on the other hand is a classic case of an overpowered card that's too expensive cmc-wise to see play. It shares this spot with cards like Bloodbraid Elf, Fact or Fiction, and Gifts Ungiven.. Four mana in Legacy is typically reserved for game ending effects like Jace. Cryptic Command is incredibly strong, but four mana is just very hard to do when you have Wasteland, Rishidan Port, Daze, Thalia, and Spell Pierce. Add in the fact that one of the best sideboard cards in the format is Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast, so many decks can counter your heavy investment for one mana. It has seen some play in the past in some fringe decks like mono U control, but lately cheaper countermagic has been printed that keeps up with Legacy's speed more effectively, and Jace has kind of monopolized thebfour cmc slot in blue decks.
There was a Sea Stompy deck that put in a great performance in the last season.
Hope is not lost, but in general Merfolk do what Faeries want to do better in Legacy.
I could almost see Mistbind Clique being playable in Faerie Stompy. With Sol Lands and Chrome Mox, 4 isn't that hard to hit, and like things like Sea Drake, Serendib Efreet, and Illusionary Angel, Clique's stats are actually pretty decent. 4 Toughness survives Bolt, and lets it tango profitably with Delver and Goose.
I could almost see Mistbind Clique being playable in Faerie Stompy. With Sol Lands and Chrome Mox, 4 isn't that hard to hit, and like things like Sea Drake, Serendib Efreet, and Illusionary Angel, Clique's stats are actually pretty decent. 4 Toughness survives Bolt, and lets it tango profitably with Delver and Goose.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
This is a Legacy Deck I have been playing for a few months. It is an aggro faerie build that uses goyfs Vendillian cliques and bitterblossom tokens to beat down my opponents, (Alternatively: Jace, The mind sculpter) Spellstutter sprite is a champ in this deck. With aether vials set at 2 (allowing you to free cast almost all creatures in the deck) you can play spellstutter sprite for free, and since your putting it into play vs casting it, it cant be countered unless someone directly effects aither vial,(ie, Abrupt decay) And with bitterblossom counting as a faerie and spellstutter sprite counting for its own ability you can counter almost any spell fairly early on in the game, for free! Then you just spend two mana and use riptide laboratory to return it to your hand. This trick can also be used with snapcasters, and vendillian cliques, as riptide hits all wizards. Your backups are force of will, Cryptic command, and stifle. Besides this running a playset of thoughtseizes allows me to really tear through my opponents hand, and set up for vitel plays. Many people have suggested running Dark confidant in this deck but with the mana cost of force of will and cryptic command, coupled with that fact that your already taking damage from the formentioned force of will, plus bitterblossom you can downrite kill yourself very fast. Umezawas jitte and nectar faerie seem to be all i need to counteract bitterblossom and force of will, as ive seen in most games. Now you may be thinking where the heck is the card draw? Well to be honest this deck is a rinse and repeat deck and with riptide laboratory, and academy ruins(sideboard for recurring engineered explosives) I tend to always have a hand, and with Jace, the mindsculpter in there I can brainstorm all I want. And if need be theres always cryptic command to draw a card, and get you out of a tight spot. This deck is fast synergistic and can realy be disruptive. The sideboard in this deck is engineered to basically deal with whatever the mainboard cant. The problems you will run into with this deck will be mostely goblins, and dredge. in these matchups i think the best thing you can do is go for cheap boardwipes like engineered explosives and hope you hit academy ruins to recurr in. and then just try to sneak a win in with jace. I have been experimenting with different ways of beating goblins as that has been the worst matchup of countless legacy decks i have played. decks we have a serious advantage in are; rug delver, storm, show and tell(all forms), and merfolk.
Th only thing I can say is if your willing to spend the money ($2,600+ including sideboard) or you already have the cards, its definately worth playing.
I actually posted a deck list in the u/w/x blade lists recently if your willing to go check that is my Fae-Blade list... I was a huge fan of Fae back in standard and porting them to Legacy took a bit of time, but I have managed to have some reasonable success in some small tournaments winning back the price of some duals and whatnot to make it a bit more affordable.
I can't link currently but there is a bit of a discussion and a fair amount of posts about the deck. it should only be about 3 pages back or so, and if you just alt f Fae Blade you will be sure to find it! Best luck!
This thread isn't super active but it discusses a deck type that is actually pretty decent and uses faeries. I always wondered if Familiar's Ruse would have a place in the deck...
The problem is that that sort of deck gets better by just going -6 Faeries + 4 Dark Confidant/Hymn to Tourach +2 Jace or whatever. Mistbind doesn't add that much. It's just not as scary as it was in its respective Standard format. Ux control feels silly paying 4 mana for something that is not a Mind Sculptor, especially in a CounterTop shell.
Well, I think the other challenge for the archetype is Abrupt Decay. There's a lot of this card going around, and it kills Bitterblossom, which can therefore no longer be considered resilient.
There's a lot of quality disruption available in UB so I don't think a faeries deck would be too bad, but one wonders why (at that point) the faeries should be included at all. More powerful threats are available.
Can anyone post links to the top tier decklists?
Is it worth building? Is Bitterblossom a core piece of the deck?
The problem with Faerie tribal is that there are few cards that synergize with other Faeries. Bitterblossom and Vendilion Clique for example doesn't really do anything when played together.
Bitterblossom is decent in some matchups like UW Control but might not do anything in other matchups like RUG Delver.
You can play a faeries-esque deck with Snapcaster Mage, Vendilion Clique with countermagic/discard and it might be ok. Bitterblossom might be decent, I think I would rather have Dark Confidant and not restrict myself to using cards simply because they say Faerie on them.
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This, the closest thing to Faeries in Legacy is Wizards and that is generally just Esper Stoneblade with Riptide Laboratory and Dark Confidant (although the deck is very fun to play) as well as Vendilion Clique and sometimes Spellstutter Sprite
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Using Flash creatures to hold open mana for other options. Clique, Sprite, Snapcaster, with Riptide Lab and Mutavault to start. Not sure what you are holding up mana for because so many spells in Legacy are free or 1 or 2 cmc.
I'm not putting too much thought into this but I'm sure it can work.
Scion and Mistbind are for the most part too expensive for legacy play. Clique and Bitterblossom are still played a fair amount, and Spellstutter shows up on occasion in Stoneblade decks, as well as in a couple of rogue decks (Faerie Stompy, which runs Chalice of the Void as one of its key components, and FaerieNinjaStill, which runs Spellstutter, Cloud of Faeries, and occasionally Zephyr Sprite alongside Ninjas and Standstill)
You could try to make Legacy Faeries work, but I'm just not sure it's going to be good enough.
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Are those the reasons why i cannot find any Legacy Faerie decklists in the recent years? What i gathered were Legacy Faeries isnt top tier and its higher-tier variant, EsperBlade isnt well-positioned in the metagame.
Which brings me to the questions: Are Crytic Command and Bitterblossom worth buying for a Causal Faerie deck? Are they the core pieces?
PS: Why are other people calling the end of Legacy when i received support so promptly?!
Cryptic Command on the other hand is a classic case of an overpowered card that's too expensive cmc-wise to see play. It shares this spot with cards like Bloodbraid Elf, Fact or Fiction, and Gifts Ungiven.. Four mana in Legacy is typically reserved for game ending effects like Jace. Cryptic Command is incredibly strong, but four mana is just very hard to do when you have Wasteland, Rishidan Port, Daze, Thalia, and Spell Pierce. Add in the fact that one of the best sideboard cards in the format is Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast, so many decks can counter your heavy investment for one mana. It has seen some play in the past in some fringe decks like mono U control, but lately cheaper countermagic has been printed that keeps up with Legacy's speed more effectively, and Jace has kind of monopolized thebfour cmc slot in blue decks.
Roger that!
Hope is not lost, but in general Merfolk do what Faeries want to do better in Legacy.
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I could almost see Mistbind Clique being playable in Faerie Stompy. With Sol Lands and Chrome Mox, 4 isn't that hard to hit, and like things like Sea Drake, Serendib Efreet, and Illusionary Angel, Clique's stats are actually pretty decent. 4 Toughness survives Bolt, and lets it tango profitably with Delver and Goose.
The problem would be running enough other Faeries to give Clique targets. Vendilion Clique isn't the strongest in Sea Stompy due to its UU cost, and you wouldn't really want to splash black for Bitterblossom. I'm not sure Spellstutter Sprite + Cloud of Faeries is sufficient. Maybe Glen Elendra Archmage can supplement.
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Does Sol stand for anything?
Sol Ring makes 2 colorless. Just like Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors.
Right...right...I had forgotten about that card.
Th only thing I can say is if your willing to spend the money ($2,600+ including sideboard) or you already have the cards, its definately worth playing.
Deck List:
Creatures: 16
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Vendillian Clique
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Scryb Ranger
4 Spellstutter Sprite
1 Nectar Faerie
1 Glen Elendra Leige
Instant/Sorcery: 13
4 Force of will
4 Thoughtseize
2 Cryptic Command
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Stifle
Enchantments: 4
4 Bitterblossom
Artifacts: 5
4 Aether Vial
1 Umezawa's Jitte
Planeswalkers: 3
3 Jace, The Mind Sculpter
Lands: 20
2 Riptide Laboratory
1 Maze of Ith
3 Wasteland
3 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Bayou
2 Island
1 Swamp
1 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Verdent catacombs
2 Secluded Glen
Sideboard: 15
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Academy Ruins
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
2 Stifle
3 Daze
2 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Damnation
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of feast and Famine
I can't link currently but there is a bit of a discussion and a fair amount of posts about the deck. it should only be about 3 pages back or so, and if you just alt f Fae Blade you will be sure to find it! Best luck!
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This thread isn't super active but it discusses a deck type that is actually pretty decent and uses faeries. I always wondered if Familiar's Ruse would have a place in the deck...
Standard: UWR
Modern: RDW, Twin
Legacy: I am 3 Candelabra of Tawnos from being able to build almost any tier 1 or 1.5 deck. Here are the ones I care about right now:
-Aggro: UWR/RUB/WUB/RUG/UR Delver; Affinity; Burn
-Control: Stoneblade; UWr Miracles; UB Tezzeret
-Combo: Hive Mind; Combo Elves; Omni Tell; T.E.S.
Vintage: Grixis Painter
EDH: Rith, the Awakener
4x Brainstorm
2x Ponder
4x Force of Will
2x Counterspell
4x Thoughtseize
4x Counterbalance
4x Sensei's Divining Top
4x Bitterblossom
2x Vendillion Clique
2x Snapcaster Mage
2x Mistbind Clique
4x Spellstutter Sprite
2x Umezawa's Jitte
Just a thought.
There's a lot of quality disruption available in UB so I don't think a faeries deck would be too bad, but one wonders why (at that point) the faeries should be included at all. More powerful threats are available.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730