Here's my first attempt at tiny Leaders, the format seems fun, i built my deck i little bit more towards mutliplayer, Any input is appreciated, some cards are not there because of budget constraint.
5th update : adding more utility cards and removing a couple of hydras, the goal is to have a deck that is more balanced between multiplayer and dual game. Adding a sideboard
The list looks like a great starting point to me, though there are some card inclusions that seem a bit off to me. You're not being particularly aggressive, which makes Dryad Militant look like it's just a random hate bear. Likewise, this makes Fleecemane Lion and Imposing Sovereign seem like odd inclusions. In multiplayer, these are particularly ineffective because cheap efficiently powered creatures don't have the necessary range for extra long games, plus Sovereign's ability is going to attract some group hate your way.
I think with the ramp plan your on, you could do some cool stuff with more of the X Hydras. Lifeblood Hydra, Hooded Hydra, and Genesis Hydra catch my eye particularly, plus Feral Hydra is fun in multiplayer.
Before you go using guys like Whisperer of the Wilds, be sure to exhaust your set of one mana dorks first. Avacyn's Pilgrim or Fyndhorn Elves would probably be better in this slot, and since you probably won't have any color issues you could even go with Boreal Druid. Whisperer's Ferocious ability is nice, but probably won't come into play all that much for you since your early drops don't have the power and later you won't need the extra mana as much.
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Thanks for the input, i just saw that i forgot a couple of good beater :). I like the hydra for sure, but i don,t wamt to have just this kind of cards in my decks. i'll probably add them. I love fleecemane lion since its a great beater and blocker. for imposing sovereign, i know i'll get hate for playing it, but the protection that it is greater than the draw back, in my group. For whisperer of the wilds, i'll probably switch for a 1 mana dork. and for dryad militant, i know someone will play a lot of instant and sorcery, its to help a little versus his deck, since he can flashback a couple of his spell
Really thanks for the input, its greatly appreciated.
for imposing sovereign, i know i'll get hate for playing it, but the protection that it is greater than the draw back, in my group.
Imposing Sovereign isn't about protection, it's about keeping your opponents from being able to block with their creatures on the turn they come down, a very effective tactic if you're trying to be aggressive. Since you don't have a lot of aggressive creatures, that's completely moot. They can still untap on their next turn (the first turn they would have been able to attack anyway) and attack you with them.
I love fleecemane lion since its a great beater and blocker..
I agree that it's a great beater, but your deck doesn't want a great beater. Especially in multiplayer, great beaters just don't perform. A 2 mana 3/3 is a very aggressive move, but you're talking about a format where life totals are up to 25 and you have to kill 2+ other players. A turn two 3/3 isn't going to be able to handle those circumstances unless maybe you're going all-in on the aggro. But you're not, because you've built a ramp deck. You want to go ramp ramp ramp player big scary threat. He's not going to be able to block very profitably until you've activated Monstrous, which is a pretty slow ability and that mana could just be used better. If you want defense, use cards like Overgrown Battlement.
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WUHanna, Pillowfort's NavigatorUW WBRAleshacratsBRW UBRGrixis Pew PewRBU URGYasova the ThreateningGRU BGGlissa the ArticiferGB WUSygg MerfolkUW RSquee, Value NabobR
Looks like you're continuing on a pretty good track. Have you considered Contagion Clasp? It's decent removal and the Proliferate works with a surprising number of your cards considering all of the Hydras, Luminarch Ascension, and Gavony Township.
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WUHanna, Pillowfort's NavigatorUW WBRAleshacratsBRW UBRGrixis Pew PewRBU URGYasova the ThreateningGRU BGGlissa the ArticiferGB WUSygg MerfolkUW RSquee, Value NabobR
Yeah i playtested a lot with this deck and i could find out what was good.
Wow, I didn't think about this, yeah contagion clasp would be good in this deck. The only thing i'm not sure what to cut in this deck anymore, maybe collective voyage or wall of omens. not sure yet. will think about putting it in the deck. i'll maybe build a sideboard, even if i don't play any 1v1 competitve game.
Creature[18]
1 Avacyn's pilgrim Foil
1 Birds of paradise
1 Elvish mystic Foil
1 Llanowar elves Foil
1 Mother of runes
2 Qasali Pridemage Foil
2 Scavenging ooze Foil
2 Thalia, guardian of Thraben
2 Wall of Omens Foil
3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
3 Courser of Kruphix
3 Eternal Witness
3 Hushwing gryff
3 Kitchen finks
3 Managorger Hydra Foil
3 Mentor of the meek Foil
3 Mirror Entity
3 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
3 Reclamation Sage
3 Omnath, locus of mana
Instant[4]
1 path to exile Foil
1 Swords to plowshares Foil
3 Beast Within
3 Council's Judgment
2x Martial coup Foil
Enchantement[5]
1 Mirri's guile
2 Journey to nowhere
3 Aura Shards
3 Banishing light Foil
3 Oblivion Ring Foil
Land[19]
3 Forest Foil
3 Plains Foil
1 Arcane Lighthouse
1 Brushland
1 Command tower
1 Gavony Township
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Sungrass prairie
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Temple Garden
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wirewood Lodge
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Yavimaya Hollow
2 Kor firewalker
2 Saffi Eriksdotter
2 Skylasher
3 Great sable Stag
3 Mirran Crusader
1x Mistcutter Hydra
1 Pithing Needle
2 Gaea's Blessing
3 Loxodon Warhammer
Here's the cards i want to probably want to add in the future
2 fauna shaman
2 Voice of resurgence
3 aven mindcensor
1 sensei's divining top
enchantement
2 sylvan library
1 Savannah
first update, due to some banned card and some good suggestion
1 Dryad militant
2 Fleecemane lion
2 Imposing sovereign
2 Whisperer of the wilds
1 Sol ring
1 plains
1 Avacyn's pilgrim
1x Feral Hydra
2x Genesis Hydra
2x Hooded Hydra
3x Lifeblood Hydra
1 forest
2nd update, adding some manabase and banishing light for control
2 selesnya charm
1 plains
3 banishing light
1 sungrass prairie
3rd Update, Improving manabase, adding a creature tutor and balancing number of cards in the deck, had too much
3 Yavimaya elder
4 forest
1 plains
3 congregation at dawn
1 Arcane lIghthouse
1 temple garden
1 windswept Heath
1 Wooded bastion
4th update : adding more utility lands and adding Council's Judgment
1 Collective Voyage
1 forest
1 plains
3 Council's Judgment
1 wirewood lodge
1 Yavimaya Hollow
5th update : adding more utility cards and removing a couple of hydras, the goal is to have a deck that is more balanced between multiplayer and dual game. Adding a sideboard
1 forest
1x mistcutter hydra
2x genesis hydra
2x primordial hydra
3 rites of flourishing
3x lifeblood hydra
1 brushland
1 mother of runes
3 courser of kruphix
3 kitchen finks
3 beast within
3 brimaz, king of oreskos
Magic origin Update
1 condemn
1 loxodon smiter
1 Nissa, vastwood seer
1 Managorger Hydra
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I think with the ramp plan your on, you could do some cool stuff with more of the X Hydras. Lifeblood Hydra, Hooded Hydra, and Genesis Hydra catch my eye particularly, plus Feral Hydra is fun in multiplayer.
Before you go using guys like Whisperer of the Wilds, be sure to exhaust your set of one mana dorks first. Avacyn's Pilgrim or Fyndhorn Elves would probably be better in this slot, and since you probably won't have any color issues you could even go with Boreal Druid. Whisperer's Ferocious ability is nice, but probably won't come into play all that much for you since your early drops don't have the power and later you won't need the extra mana as much.
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Really thanks for the input, its greatly appreciated.
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Imposing Sovereign isn't about protection, it's about keeping your opponents from being able to block with their creatures on the turn they come down, a very effective tactic if you're trying to be aggressive. Since you don't have a lot of aggressive creatures, that's completely moot. They can still untap on their next turn (the first turn they would have been able to attack anyway) and attack you with them.
I agree that it's a great beater, but your deck doesn't want a great beater. Especially in multiplayer, great beaters just don't perform. A 2 mana 3/3 is a very aggressive move, but you're talking about a format where life totals are up to 25 and you have to kill 2+ other players. A turn two 3/3 isn't going to be able to handle those circumstances unless maybe you're going all-in on the aggro. But you're not, because you've built a ramp deck. You want to go ramp ramp ramp player big scary threat. He's not going to be able to block very profitably until you've activated Monstrous, which is a pretty slow ability and that mana could just be used better. If you want defense, use cards like Overgrown Battlement.
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UBlue BraidsU
GAzusa, Lost but RampingG
WBRAleshacratsBRW
UBRGrixis Pew PewRBU
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BGGlissa the ArticiferGB
WUSygg MerfolkUW
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BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
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BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
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BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
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GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
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BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
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GAzusa, Lost but RampingG
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BGGlissa the ArticiferGB
WUSygg MerfolkUW
RSquee, Value NabobR
Wow, I didn't think about this, yeah contagion clasp would be good in this deck. The only thing i'm not sure what to cut in this deck anymore, maybe collective voyage or wall of omens. not sure yet. will think about putting it in the deck. i'll maybe build a sideboard, even if i don't play any 1v1 competitve game.
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
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GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat