You guys should know who I am by now because I was incessantly posting about my build. I posted so much I deleted prior threads because I did not want to be called stupid or not resourceful for being a beginner. I did not know a ton of stuff. This build was a crash course in EDH. I mean tthese threads were ongoing for weeks. Well I got ALL but one land today and I ran it. I did not have Mana Confluence so I ran one more Swamp. I am tanked so I am going to do my best for play notes for all of you since you guys really put in the work to help me.
OK, first off. My group is not cEDH, but they are not going to lay down either. People play to win but they make sure people have fun too, but winning comes first. It is not toxic and everyone just does their best.
I ****ed up a Cyclonic Rift by Mystical Tutor for it then shuffling my deck immediately after due to a discard draw, I forget the card lol.
I missed so many scry, life loss triggers with The Scarab God.
I got Geth, Lord of the Vault out and attacked an Australian m8 with one thing on the board and he took it so I got a token, lol.
I need more zombaes. 24 is NOT enough. I never drew any of my early zombaes and I was starving most of the time. Although one match I only had 6 lands and I hanged and banged still, that was super cool.
My most threatening board presence was 5 zombies and one was a Geth token. Not good.
Someone did 41 points of Commander damage to me early on because I had land, Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth out and they knew it was going to get filthy quick. And it was.
I need to go up to AT LEAST 28 zombies. I punched my build into EDHRec and most of the zombies they are suggesting I cut due to lack of value, save for things like Lord of the Undead and Relentless Dead
I'm going to operate under the assumption that, amidst all this background of why certain cards are in your deck, and what you're planning on getting next, you're asking for suggestions. Feel free to ignore me if I'm wrong.
First suggestion is that you might want to post your decklist here. I handle it just fine, but some people are a bit picky about not having the decklist right in front of them on this site. [deck,][/deck,](without the periods)is how you do it; then just enter each card's name with a number(most people use 1).
As you can see in my signature, I stretched a bit further, and made a Grixis zombies deck, as opposed to Dimir. Not saying one's better than the other, but it may play into how heavily you want to take my suggestions. So, here are some of the missing pieces(those without price tags following are less than a couple of dollars):
Relentless Dead($8) - Arguably the best cheap, recurrable zombie you could ever ask for. If you've got the oodles of mana(and I imagine Cabal Coffers will do it for you), you can save your whole army from a boardwipe.(EDIT: I'm confused...do you have Relentless in your deck already, or is it one you're attempting to acquire yet?). Withered Wretch - I am not a huge fan of mill(GY decks abound, but your meta may vary), BUT...if you intend to stay on that route, it never hurts to have a way to take out the choicest pieces that you can't steal for yourself. On that topic... Coffin Queen{$6) - She's been errata'd as a zombie, so she fits VERY nicely into your plan. She also serves as a political tool, in various ways. Fleshbag Marauder - Sure, he's usually a one-and-done guy for the ETB trigger, but if you recur him, he gets REALLY nasty, really fast. Unbreathing Horde - More useful if your meta is damage dependent, rather than removal heavy. He can also get pretty stupid fast, and without removal, he can be hard to get through. Vengeful Dead - Punish them for killing your zombies. Every little poke helps. Havengul Lich - Another meta dependent guy, but he's oh-so-fabulous most times. Add in that the zombies you already have(plus some of the zombies I'm suggesting) have activated abilities, and it will rarely be a bad draw. Lord of the Undead($13.50) - Another Unholy Grotto(only straight to your hand) is never a bad thing. Add in the anthem, and it's a must have. That price tag, though...
Suggested miscellaneous:
Grave Pact($15) - Punish people even more when you cast Fleshbag Marauder. Dictate of Erebos($11) - Arguably better than Gravepact because of flash, but if you can, why not run both? Sudden Spoiling($3) - Few things are more hilarious than having someone swing their army into your zombies only to watch them turn into fresh meat for your rotted friends. Has saved me from lethal damage more than a few times as well. Army of the Damned - The cost is prohibitive at first glance, I admit that. But more zombies is still more zombies, and being able to flashback it is another plus. Give it a shot at least. Urza's Incubator($10) - Another way to reduce zombie costs, aside from Warchief. This and the Horn can be expensive though... Herald's Horn($14) - See above. Aetherworks Marvel - Saccing all those zombies should have an extra benefit, I would think. This is an underrated card for those types of decks, I think. Westvale Abbey($5) - Again, saccing zombies should benefit you in as many ways possible. There's also some flavorful cohesion in having zombies sacrificed to summon a demon, don't you think?
That's just a few of the ideas I have, maybe something will tickle your fancy.
I know where it is(I even utilized it to avoid suggesting zombies you already have), and most people will too. But there are some who PREFER it be posted here in the thread...I'm just giving you a heads up.
Ahh OK, I apologize. I did not understand what you meant. I am new here. I will follow that going forward and I do apologize.
Thanks for the recommendations, I will review on my lunch and get back with you. Thanks for your big help too! Love the help I get here. I wish the other resources were as helpful as this site.
You guys should know who I am by now because I was incessantly posting about my build. I posted so much I deleted prior threads because I did not want to be called stupid or not resourceful for being a beginner. I did not know a ton of stuff. This build was a crash course in EDH. I mean tthese threads were ongoing for weeks. Well I got ALL but one land today and I ran it. I did not have Mana Confluence so I ran one more Swamp. I am tanked so I am going to do my best for play notes for all of you since you guys really put in the work to help me.
OK, first off. My group is not cEDH, but they are not going to lay down either. People play to win but they make sure people have fun too, but winning comes first. It is not toxic and everyone just does their best.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier + Unholy Grotto = winning ideas, Tom. Sidisi, tutor, sac Sidisi, Unholy Grotto. Man it's going down.
I ****ed up a Cyclonic Rift by Mystical Tutor for it then shuffling my deck immediately after due to a discard draw, I forget the card lol.
I missed so many scry, life loss triggers with The Scarab God.
I got Geth, Lord of the Vault out and attacked an Australian m8 with one thing on the board and he took it so I got a token, lol.
I need more zombaes. 24 is NOT enough. I never drew any of my early zombaes and I was starving most of the time. Although one match I only had 6 lands and I hanged and banged still, that was super cool.
My most threatening board presence was 5 zombies and one was a Geth token. Not good.
I got to play Training Grounds and Rooftop Storm but no zombaes = the succ.
In all 4 matches in 3.5 hours I drew ZERO 1 CMC creatures.
I did not draw Liliana, Untouched by Death once.
The finisher?
Someone did 41 points of Commander damage to me early on because I had land, Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth out and they knew it was going to get filthy quick. And it was.
I need Rise of the Dark Realms
I need to go up to AT LEAST 28 zombies. I punched my build into EDHRec and most of the zombies they are suggesting I cut due to lack of value, save for things like Lord of the Undead and Relentless Dead
First suggestion is that you might want to post your decklist here. I handle it just fine, but some people are a bit picky about not having the decklist right in front of them on this site. [deck,][/deck,](without the periods)is how you do it; then just enter each card's name with a number(most people use 1).
As you can see in my signature, I stretched a bit further, and made a Grixis zombies deck, as opposed to Dimir. Not saying one's better than the other, but it may play into how heavily you want to take my suggestions. So, here are some of the missing pieces(those without price tags following are less than a couple of dollars):
Relentless Dead($8) - Arguably the best cheap, recurrable zombie you could ever ask for. If you've got the oodles of mana(and I imagine Cabal Coffers will do it for you), you can save your whole army from a boardwipe.(EDIT: I'm confused...do you have Relentless in your deck already, or is it one you're attempting to acquire yet?).
Withered Wretch - I am not a huge fan of mill(GY decks abound, but your meta may vary), BUT...if you intend to stay on that route, it never hurts to have a way to take out the choicest pieces that you can't steal for yourself. On that topic...
Coffin Queen{$6) - She's been errata'd as a zombie, so she fits VERY nicely into your plan. She also serves as a political tool, in various ways.
Fleshbag Marauder - Sure, he's usually a one-and-done guy for the ETB trigger, but if you recur him, he gets REALLY nasty, really fast.
Unbreathing Horde - More useful if your meta is damage dependent, rather than removal heavy. He can also get pretty stupid fast, and without removal, he can be hard to get through.
Vengeful Dead - Punish them for killing your zombies. Every little poke helps.
Havengul Lich - Another meta dependent guy, but he's oh-so-fabulous most times. Add in that the zombies you already have(plus some of the zombies I'm suggesting) have activated abilities, and it will rarely be a bad draw.
Lord of the Undead($13.50) - Another Unholy Grotto(only straight to your hand) is never a bad thing. Add in the anthem, and it's a must have. That price tag, though...
Suggested miscellaneous:
Grave Pact($15) - Punish people even more when you cast Fleshbag Marauder.
Dictate of Erebos($11) - Arguably better than Gravepact because of flash, but if you can, why not run both?
Sudden Spoiling($3) - Few things are more hilarious than having someone swing their army into your zombies only to watch them turn into fresh meat for your rotted friends. Has saved me from lethal damage more than a few times as well.
Army of the Damned - The cost is prohibitive at first glance, I admit that. But more zombies is still more zombies, and being able to flashback it is another plus. Give it a shot at least.
Urza's Incubator($10) - Another way to reduce zombie costs, aside from Warchief. This and the Horn can be expensive though...
Herald's Horn($14) - See above.
Aetherworks Marvel - Saccing all those zombies should have an extra benefit, I would think. This is an underrated card for those types of decks, I think.
Westvale Abbey($5) - Again, saccing zombies should benefit you in as many ways possible. There's also some flavorful cohesion in having zombies sacrificed to summon a demon, don't you think?
That's just a few of the ideas I have, maybe something will tickle your fancy.
EDH decks: 1. RGWMayael's Big BeatsRETIRED!
2. BUWMerieke Ri Berit and the 40 Thieves
3. URNiv's Wheeling and Dealing!
4. BURThe Walking Dead
5. GWSisay's Legends of Tomorrow
6. RWBRise of Markov
7. GElvez and stuffz(W)
8. RCrush your enemies(W)
9. BSign right here...(W)
EDH decks: 1. RGWMayael's Big BeatsRETIRED!
2. BUWMerieke Ri Berit and the 40 Thieves
3. URNiv's Wheeling and Dealing!
4. BURThe Walking Dead
5. GWSisay's Legends of Tomorrow
6. RWBRise of Markov
7. GElvez and stuffz(W)
8. RCrush your enemies(W)
9. BSign right here...(W)
Thanks for the recommendations, I will review on my lunch and get back with you. Thanks for your big help too! Love the help I get here. I wish the other resources were as helpful as this site.
I reviewed everything and modified my build and will pick what I want to run out of it. You made many really good recommendations! It really helps.