As you can see I took out some of the +1/+1 counter themes, I never really got to play to them much. I did on the odd occasion, and I did win a game through Steel Overseer running up a big artifact creature army, but this was a rare occasion, where it lined up that I drew a lot of artifact creatures at the start.
On subsequent non-creature artifact searches you can get Skullclamp to get further draw from the artifact creatures you are sacrificing.
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You can get Lightning Greaves with the non-creature artifact search, and search for Cephalid Illusionist with the Citanul Flute. This way you can put as many cards into graveyard as you want.
-OR-
Simpy go through for any of your other combo creatures, matching them up with maybe artifact mana to help the process.
Wow I am very impressed with this thread. Originally I wasn't too hyped on Lasav since everyone was looking to do Vector Asp + Phyrexian Dreadnaught but I love the idea of Crackdown Consulate getting in for the win. Really like the idea of a Dimir Artifacts commander a lot.
Wow I am very impressed with this thread. Originally I wasn't too hyped on Lasav since everyone was looking to do Vector Asp + Phyrexian Dreadnaught but I love the idea of Crackdown Consulate getting in for the win. Really like the idea of a Dimir Artifacts commander a lot.
Thanks, I put a lot of effort into trying to explain every aspect of decks and choices made.
As I've already mentioned the Vector Asp + Phyrexian Dreadnaught does still present itself a lot, so you just got to run with it if you can do it, but there are certainly a lot more angles you can take, so the deck has a lot of tools.
I do find that just the Phyrexian Dreadnaught can get it done by itself (with Lazav), as 12/12 trample commander damage is hard to stop, so you just kill players in sequential turns, rather than one hit infect.
I have taken in you feed back and made some changes. It hurts when you cut pet cards like Salvaging Station + Lotus Bloom, but overall I think the deck is much more cohesive.
A note worthy new addition is Mirran Spy. At worst it will untap a mana creature or my commander when I cast another artifact. At it's best I can untap Arcum Dagsson or combo it with Grand Architect to make any artifact 2 or less a free cast.
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Added
+ Universal Solvent
+ Stifle
+ Crypt Rats
+ Crackdown Construct
+ Arcum Dagsson
+ Citanul Flute
+ Inkmoth Nexus
Removed
- Steel Overseer
- Arcbound Ravager
- Mindless Automaton
- Snapcaster Mage
- Vault Skirge
- Mystic Remora
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
As you can see I took out some of the +1/+1 counter themes, I never really got to play to them much. I did on the odd occasion, and I did win a game through Steel Overseer running up a big artifact creature army, but this was a rare occasion, where it lined up that I drew a lot of artifact creatures at the start.
Because there are 16 artifact creatures, Arcum Dagsson can be used consistently to get non-creature artifacts. There is a mini-combo where you can get Citanul Flute. Because the creatures in the deck are so cheap, you can look to spend little mana on the searches. Of course you can go for the classic Vector Asp, Phyrexian Dreadnought. You can even just tap the Citanul Flute (for zero) to get Ornithopter, Walking Ballista, Hangarback Walker.
On subsequent non-creature artifact searches you can get Skullclamp to get further draw from the artifact creatures you are sacrificing.
-OR-
You can get Lightning Greaves with the non-creature artifact search, and search for Cephalid Illusionist with the Citanul Flute. This way you can put as many cards into graveyard as you want.
-OR-
Simpy go through for any of your other combo creatures, matching them up with maybe artifact mana to help the process.
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
Feather, the Redeemed
Estrid, the Masked
Teshar
Tymna/Ravos
Najeela, Blade-Blossom
Firesong & Sunspeaker
Zur the Enchanter
Lazav, the Multifarious
Ishai+Reyhan
Click images for decks->
-Prime Speaker Vannifar
---------------------Will & Rowan Kenrith
As I've already mentioned the Vector Asp + Phyrexian Dreadnaught does still present itself a lot, so you just got to run with it if you can do it, but there are certainly a lot more angles you can take, so the deck has a lot of tools.
I do find that just the Phyrexian Dreadnaught can get it done by itself (with Lazav), as 12/12 trample commander damage is hard to stop, so you just kill players in sequential turns, rather than one hit infect.
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
Feather, the Redeemed
Estrid, the Masked
Teshar
Tymna/Ravos
Najeela, Blade-Blossom
Firesong & Sunspeaker
Zur the Enchanter
Lazav, the Multifarious
Ishai+Reyhan
Click images for decks->
-Prime Speaker Vannifar
---------------------Will & Rowan Kenrith
1 Lazav, the Multifarious
Artifact Creatures (19)
1 Ornithopter
1 Hangarback Walker
1 Walking Ballista
1 Phyrexian Dreadnought
1 Vector Asp
1 Hex Parasite
1 Etherium Sculptor
1 Millikin
1 Leaden Myr
1 Silver Myr
1 Pili-Pala
1 Salvage Slasher
1 Shimmer Myr
1 Etched Champion
1 Silas Renn, Seeker Adept
1 Skill Borrower
1 Palladium Myr
1 Silent Arbiter
1 Phyrexian Devourer
Creatures (13)
1 Dreamscape Artist
1 Nether Traitor
1 Riddlesmith
1 Mirran Spy
1 Thassa, God of the Sea
1 Jace's Archivist
1 Grand Architect
1 Sai, Master Thopterist
1 Necrotic Ooze
1 Notion Thief
1 Arcum Dagsson
1 Whirler Rogue
1 Magus of the Future
1 Training Grounds
1 Artificer's Intuition
Instants and Sorcery (12)
1 Entomb
1 Reanimate
1 Stifle
1 Trickbind
1 Disallow
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Echoing Truth
1 Forbid
1 Windfall
1 Buried Alive
1 Pact of Negation
1 Cyclonic Rift
Artifacts (22)
1 Mox Amber
1 Paradise Mantle
1 Sol Ring
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Universal Solvent
1 Library of Leng
1 Lantern of Insight
1 Meekstone
1 Codex Shredder
1 Thran Foundry
1 Chromatic Star
1 Conjurer's Bauble
1 Key to the City
1 Talisman of Dominance
1 Dimir Signet
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Torpor Orb
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Trading Post
1 Null Brooch
1 Citanul Flute
1 Maze of Ith
1 Command Tower
1 Watery Grave
1 Morphic Pool
1 Sunken Ruins
1 Underground River
1 Darkwater Catacombs
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Fetid Pools
1 Sunken Hollow
4 Island
1 Seat of the Synod
3 Swamp
1 Academy Ruins
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Polluted Delta
1 Rocky Tar Pit
1 Bad River
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Geier Reach Sanitarium
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 Inventors' Fair
1 Tolaria West
1 Buried Ruin
1 Wasteland
A note worthy new addition is Mirran Spy. At worst it will untap a mana creature or my commander when I cast another artifact. At it's best I can untap Arcum Dagsson or combo it with Grand Architect to make any artifact 2 or less a free cast.