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Quote from Damnosus »

I have an updated list that fixes the mana issues a bit. Still I think I am done with Atraxa: she only a so so stax general, and ultimately she is pretty boring.

Ya she was fun for a while but got boring fairly quickly. Unless something ground shattering gets printed Idk that there will be too many updates to this list. I was hoping the RC would free Braids but we got nothing instead.

I have moved over to breya stax that dies to doom blade came up with. While it get shut down hard by things like null rod, it is overall more powerful and better yet more interesting and fun to play. His list is somewhere on this forum. I suggest you check it out.

Quote from Damnosus »

I have moved over to breya stax that dies to doom blade came up with. While it get shut down hard by things like null rod, it is overall more powerful and better yet more interesting and fun to play. His list is somewhere on this forum. I suggest you check it out.

Ehhhhh, spent to much on atraxa so far. Breya is cool, but tangle wire loves atraxa more. Trading wins for fun is not my ideal play style. I play to win.

Actually, Breya is pretty even with tangle wire due to it being able to run both daretti and goblin welder.

I can see breya is a good deck, but our walkers are just icing on the cake. We do not need them to win. @_@ just talking crap
Idk, it's just a personal choice. I like green in the deck. I can play it easily after a long day of giving lecture. It fits my play style.

So it's been a while since anything has been updated with this list. Just want to let everyone know I finally got around to taking a better look at the list and I've come up with the following issues that I'm currently working to try and solve. The deck's win cons are slow and while the list makes it tough for our opponents to interact it's not impossible to stop. I've been looking at other competitive lists in similar colors and the big win con that sticks out to me is boonweaver. I'm currently reworking the list to fit the boonweaver combo as well as the linvala/massacre + living plane lock and humility + night of souls betrayal. These lock should help shore up the primary stasis lock while giving us some easier to assemble win cons. Humility is a nonbo with boonweaver, so I may look into another option for a creature lock, but socfar the list is coming together nicely. I plan on adding a suite of dorks and hate bears to the list as well to help the early and mid game. We likely won't be able to win any races but we can at least stop everyone else. Once the list is done I'll post it here and update the tappedout list as well.

This is the most up to date list for this deck. I've added this list to the changelog in the OP. It was a ton of changes so I won't be going through each individual card drop/add, but overall the plan was to shore up consistency by adding locks/win cons that don't rely on Atraxa to work. A suite of hatebears and dorks to help early disruption and ramp efforts combined with some more tutors should help out a ton. The big addition was the Boonweaver Giant combo, but I've also added some Living Plane locks and Humility + Night of Souls' Betrayal as an additional lock to allow our planeswalkers to ult a lot more easily. I haven't had a chance to play since updating the list but I have a feeling it's going to be a bit more consistent, especially with the completion of the fetchland cycle which the list was previously missing. Any ideas to help improve upon the list further would be greatly appreciated. Let me know what you guys think.

bumpski! Still using the deck and it wipes out the whole table. It hits like a shock wave. No new changes have been made.
So far, have been asked to leave or never play that deck again by 2 stores for being a degenerate deck. Said complainers against are the usual first and second place winners when I don't show up. Hypocrites

Tried to make on the Infect.
http://deck.tk/5vtg9vzT
Check please.

Infect based win with mainly creatures fails hard. You get hated out fast. It's hard to defend against an onslaught of attack when you are slow to gain board state.

Quote from Wraith223 »

bumpski! Still using the deck and it wipes out the whole table. It hits like a shock wave. No new changes have been made.
So far, have been asked to leave or never play that deck again by 2 stores for being a degenerate deck. Said complainers against are the usual first and second place winners when I don't show up. Hypocrites

Nice! I, unfortunately haven't had a ton of time to play. Hopefully, I can get some good games in soon.

Quote from Dimarius13 »

Tried to make on the Infect.
http://deck.tk/5vtg9vzT
Check please.

Tried that out and it is just way too slow to pull off a win. Really the game plan should be to lock the table for a round or two so you can ult bant Tammy and then just win from there. Or use the combo I added to win that way.

Quote from Wraith223 »

bumpski! Still using the deck and it wipes out the whole table. It hits like a shock wave. No new changes have been made.
So far, have been asked to leave or never play that deck again by 2 stores for being a degenerate deck. Said complainers against are the usual first and second place winners when I don't show up. Hypocrites

Wraith, I briefly skimmed through your comments in this thread and didn't see your list anywhere. I'm assuming it's the stock list in the OP with small adjustments?

Yes, but I keep a huge lock out selection. Will post a deck list soon (tomarrow).

Quote from Vindikare »

so, leovold is gone...

But now we can all have green eggs and meat!

Really pissed about the decision....
Looking at possible replacements,
Damnation
Hushing gruff
Imposing soveryn
Mana drain
Aven mindscensor

Leovold, Rest In Peace my friend, I feel like I barely got to know you. You will be missed.

Yeah, that's just stupid exspensive. Aven mindsensor and or sprit of the labyrinth would probably do you more good as chains hits you to.

Aven mindscensor was already in the deck. -_-
Trying spirit of the labarynth and hushwing gryff.
Hushwing gryff has been annoying when need to cast ichor rats.
Spirit is anoying with Jace.
Gryff helped prevent prosch and other destroy mechanics.....

Meh, need utility. Winning anyways. It's a target. Need to protect combos and locks.

I play fetch lands? They are needed to get the early lands. It's a deck you must be patient with and very careful to adapt to new plans. I run a lot of tutors.
Amonkhet does not anything I can use, as foretold is neat but mehhhhh....
The gods are kind of useless to me.
I don't play comes into play tapped lands.
I need to post my deck.

Atraxa, I'd tap that

• Atraxa, Praetor's Voice
  
• Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
  
• Bloom Tender
  
• Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
  
• Crystalline Crawler
  
• Birds of Paradise
  
• Aven Mindcensor
  
• Dark Confidant
  
• Scavenging Ooze
  
• Zur, the Enchanter
  
• Ichor Rats
  
• Hushwing Gryff
  
• Linvala, Keeper of Silence
  
• Talisman of Unity
  
• Tangle Wire
  
• Smokestack
  
• Sword of Feast and Famine
  
• Mox Opal
  
• Swiftfoot Boots
  
• Sensei's Divining Top
  
• Pentad Prism
  
• Astral Cornucopia
  
• Talisman of Progress
  
• Lightning Greaves
  
• Crucible of Worlds
  
• Fellwar Stone
  
• Sol Ring
  
• Mana Crypt
  
• Winter Orb
  
• Orb of Dreams
  
• Static Orb
  
• Chromatic Lantern
  
• Talisman of Dominance
  
• Stasis
  
• Bitterblossom
  
• Root Maze
  
• Doubling Season
  
• Necropotence
  
• Contamination
  
• Sylvan Library
  
• Pernicious Deed
  
• Jace, the Mind Sculptor
  
• Elspeth, Knight-Errant
  
• Teferi, Temporal Archmage
  
• Garruk Wildspeaker
  
• Tezzeret the Seeker
  
• Karn Liberated
  
• Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
  
• Dovin Baan
  
• Tamiyo, Field Researcher
  
• Vensur, The Sojourner
  
• Nature's Lore
  
• Fabricate
  
• Cruel Tutor
  
• Demonic Tutor
  
• Regrowth
  
• Armageddon
  
• Toxic Deluge
  
• Anguished Unmaking
  
• Vampiric Tutor
  
• Sultai Charm
  
• Swan Song
  
• Counterspell
  
• Swords to Plowshares
  
• Noxious Revival
  
• Enlightened Tutor
  
• Beast Within
  
• Cyclonic Rift
  
• Arcane Denial
  
• Abrupt Decay
  

Haven't played this list ina few months. Swapped over to five color aluren since I got kinda bored with Atraxa. As for replacements for leo, spirit is probably the best bet, our best draw spell doesn't actually draw cards.

Opinion of As Foretold in this deck as a lock breaker?

Seems decent and it's got a decent mana cost. The list doesn't run much if any cost increasers so it would definitely be pretty solid to get around stasis/orbs.