Only thing I read is CMC equal to colours paid.
So 0 colour paid = 0 cmc no colour restriction. So yes wheel of fate and ancestral vision. Acts as a 1 drop if cascaded into. And you can get cmc 5 with birds ect with new colour rules. So time warps. So yes its gonna rock.
Yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying that It doesn't do much good if we cascade into it; Yeah, I get that now, I misread the card. I dislike it in this deck although.
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How's this deck doing? I built a somewhat lower-power variant with fewer extra turn/combat effects, and fewer tutors, but I just haven't had a chance to play it against people yet.
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Modern: WBG Abzan Company WBG | UBR Grixis Delver and/or Twin UBR | U Merfolk U
WBG Anafenza, the Foremost WBG WUR Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon WUBRG URG Maelstrom Wanderer URG UBG Damia, Sage of Stone UBG WUG Roon of the Hidden Realm WUG WUG Rafiq of the Many WUG WUG Deveri, Empyrial Tactician WUG BRG Prossh, Skyraider of Kher BRG WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain WBG UBR Nekusar, the Mind Razer UBR WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR UG Prime Speaker Zegana UG UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG WB Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter WB WU Grand Arbiter Augustin IV WU
How's this deck doing? I built a somewhat lower-power variant with fewer extra turn/combat effects, and fewer tutors, but I just haven't had a chance to play it against people yet.
Lower power is good. This list itself eventually evolved into Yidris, a few infinite combos, Aggravated Assault, Beacon of Tomorrows, Mind's Desire, and just a critical mass of draw, tutors, and ramp. It was a great combo deck, but it also once again reminded me that I really don't like playing combo. So, I'm gutting it and going for a rebuild into an epic burn deck with a little beneficial chaos for support, which should be a lot more fun to play and - more importantly - make casting Yidris much more relevant to the deck's operation again.
I have made a mostly creatureles deck, hard to pick many good creatures with Yidris. Killing the multiples of tutors, turns and combats has made it really fun.
I have limited the extra turns to Expropriate. Combats to Scourge of the Throne and Seize the Day and tutors to mystical tutor and bring to light. Now this deck is super fun without being oppresive storm-like combo. Still wins too.
Lower power is good. This list itself eventually evolved into Yidris, a few infinite combos, Aggravated Assault, Beacon of Tomorrows, Mind's Desire, and just a critical mass of draw, tutors, and ramp. It was a great combo deck, but it also once again reminded me that I really don't like playing combo. So, I'm gutting it and going for a rebuild into an epic burn deck with a little beneficial chaos for support, which should be a lot more fun to play and - more importantly - make casting Yidris much more relevant to the deck's operation again.
Ah, word. Shame you're abandoning the Voltron angle for burn, but understandable. I imagine broken cascades into broken effects enabling more broken cascades could be pretty demoralizing to a table. I'm hoping my build is just tuned enough to warrant eventually becoming archenemy and occasionally being able to power through the hate for a win.
I've limited my extra turns to Time Warp, extra combats to Aggravated Assault, Relentless Assault and Hellkite Charger, and tutors to Worldly/Mystical. Had Vampiric but cut it to keep the power level in check. I thought about going creatureless, but decided to run a handful of utility critters that can also carry equips if Yidris is getting axed too frequently. Settled on Maelstrom Wanderer (couldn't resist), Birds of Paradise, Thassa, Rashmi, Shriekmaw, Mulldrifter, Palinchron (on the chopping block), Hellkite Charger, and my personal favorite, Psychosis Crawler. Multiple Wheels with Crawler out has always been a fun win condition for me, except in Nekusar decks which are just too unfun for me to enjoy playing.
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EDH: B Chainer, Dementia Master B | UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG | WRG Marath, Will of the Wild WRG | UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR | UBG Tasigur, the Golden Fang UBG
Modern: WBG Abzan Company WBG | UBR Grixis Delver and/or Twin UBR | U Merfolk U
WBG Anafenza, the Foremost WBG WUR Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon WUBRG URG Maelstrom Wanderer URG UBG Damia, Sage of Stone UBG WUG Roon of the Hidden Realm WUG WUG Rafiq of the Many WUG WUG Deveri, Empyrial Tactician WUG BRG Prossh, Skyraider of Kher BRG WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain WBG UBR Nekusar, the Mind Razer UBR WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR UG Prime Speaker Zegana UG UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG WB Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter WB WU Grand Arbiter Augustin IV WU
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying that It doesn't do much good if we cascade into it; Yeah, I get that now, I misread the card. I dislike it in this deck although.
I hold the job of resurrecting dead threads.
Formerly presumed dead, but also formerly presumed alive.
B Chainer, Dementia Master B | UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG | WRG Marath, Will of the Wild WRG | UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR | UBG Tasigur, the Golden Fang UBG
Modern:
WBG Abzan Company WBG | UBR Grixis Delver and/or Twin UBR | U Merfolk U
WBG Anafenza, the Foremost WBG
WUR Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon WUBRG
URG Maelstrom Wanderer URG
UBG Damia, Sage of Stone UBG
WUG Roon of the Hidden Realm WUG
WUG Rafiq of the Many WUG
WUG Deveri, Empyrial Tactician WUG
BRG Prossh, Skyraider of Kher BRG
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain WBG
UBR Nekusar, the Mind Razer UBR
WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR
UG Prime Speaker Zegana UG
UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG
WB Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter WB
WU Grand Arbiter Augustin IV WU
Lower power is good. This list itself eventually evolved into Yidris, a few infinite combos, Aggravated Assault, Beacon of Tomorrows, Mind's Desire, and just a critical mass of draw, tutors, and ramp. It was a great combo deck, but it also once again reminded me that I really don't like playing combo. So, I'm gutting it and going for a rebuild into an epic burn deck with a little beneficial chaos for support, which should be a lot more fun to play and - more importantly - make casting Yidris much more relevant to the deck's operation again.
I have limited the extra turns to Expropriate. Combats to Scourge of the Throne and Seize the Day and tutors to mystical tutor and bring to light. Now this deck is super fun without being oppresive storm-like combo. Still wins too.
Ah, word. Shame you're abandoning the Voltron angle for burn, but understandable. I imagine broken cascades into broken effects enabling more broken cascades could be pretty demoralizing to a table. I'm hoping my build is just tuned enough to warrant eventually becoming archenemy and occasionally being able to power through the hate for a win.
I've limited my extra turns to Time Warp, extra combats to Aggravated Assault, Relentless Assault and Hellkite Charger, and tutors to Worldly/Mystical. Had Vampiric but cut it to keep the power level in check. I thought about going creatureless, but decided to run a handful of utility critters that can also carry equips if Yidris is getting axed too frequently. Settled on Maelstrom Wanderer (couldn't resist), Birds of Paradise, Thassa, Rashmi, Shriekmaw, Mulldrifter, Palinchron (on the chopping block), Hellkite Charger, and my personal favorite, Psychosis Crawler. Multiple Wheels with Crawler out has always been a fun win condition for me, except in Nekusar decks which are just too unfun for me to enjoy playing.
B Chainer, Dementia Master B | UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG | WRG Marath, Will of the Wild WRG | UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR | UBG Tasigur, the Golden Fang UBG
Modern:
WBG Abzan Company WBG | UBR Grixis Delver and/or Twin UBR | U Merfolk U
WBG Anafenza, the Foremost WBG
WUR Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon WUBRG
URG Maelstrom Wanderer URG
UBG Damia, Sage of Stone UBG
WUG Roon of the Hidden Realm WUG
WUG Rafiq of the Many WUG
WUG Deveri, Empyrial Tactician WUG
BRG Prossh, Skyraider of Kher BRG
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain WBG
UBR Nekusar, the Mind Razer UBR
WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR
UG Prime Speaker Zegana UG
UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG
WB Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter WB
WU Grand Arbiter Augustin IV WU