I would like to at least know why did you cut the Main combos (nim and displacer) also What piles would you get with Doomsday.
I cut Displacer/Deathmantle combos as I'm wanting this to be a fast combo deck, and those combos were too slow to make them worthwhile.
There are quite a few Doomsday Piles you can go with, here are the main ones:
Thought Scour
Worldgorger Dragon
Auriok Salvagers
Animate Dead
Anything
Thought Scour
Auriok Salvagers
Lion's Eye Diamond
Animate Dead
Anything
Frantic Search
Laboratory Maniac
Thought Scour
Anything
Anything
Thought Scour
Anything
Frantic Search
Laboratory Maniac
Gitaxian Probe
(This one you want to have SDT out already so you can draw with the Top, play scour, bin SDT and random, draw Frantic, play LabMan and Probe)
I like the direction you have moved on to, have you had many games to comment on problem situations? This deck is pretty much all in, if you fail to "stick it" there is no recovery.
I like the direction you have moved on to, have you had many lgames to comment on problem situations? This deck is pretty much all in, if you fail to "stick it" there is no recovery.
Unfortunately, the only game I have had with this deck since making the switch is the one I described in post #54, and the only reason I won that is because I disrupted his combo.
I don't get to play much in person, so the only real testing I get is on MTGO. It's not the best place to test, but I get a lot more diversity for opponents. And if they decide to sit there as I'm going through the motions of comboing, I'll consider that a win and move on to the next game.
Bit then the deck becomes more "goodstuff" than breya centric. Well that can be good or bad depending on your style. i'm trying to figure how to make it more"eggs" than pure combos, but i don't know how to procede
Bit then the deck becomes more "goodstuff" than breya centric. Well that can be good or bad depending on your style. i'm trying to figure how to make it more"eggs" than pure combos, but i don't know how to procede
I originally approached it this way, and tried to build eggs, but I realized Breya was the big egg, all you needed was to power her.
Bit then the deck becomes more "goodstuff" than breya centric. Well that can be good or bad depending on your style. i'm trying to figure how to make it more"eggs" than pure combos, but i don't know how to procede
Bit then the deck becomes more "goodstuff" than breya centric. Well that can be good or bad depending on your style. i'm trying to figure how to make it more"eggs" than pure combos, but i don't know how to procede
I originally approached it this way, and tried to build eggs, but I realized Breya was the big egg, all you needed was to power her.
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Never played Eggs. I feel combo is the most effective/competitive way to build her, so that's what I did. I've been considering building a 2nd Breya deck that is a more casual "goodstuff" deck.
I am kinda on the fence about Yawgmoth's Will, don't get me wrong, its an absolute powerhouse in most decks, especially storm, but here it does not allow me to facilitate both combo's since it has the "exile" clause. I am leaning more towards something like Argivian Find, its instant and it does not hose dragon.
I am kinda on the fence about Yawgmoth's Will, don't get me wrong, its an absolute powerhouse in most decks, especially storm, but here it does not allow me to facilitate both combo's since it has the "exile" clause. I am leaning more towards something like Argivian Find, its instant and it does not hose dragon.
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It does shut off George and Bomberman for the turn, but you can still win via LabMan if you run it. It's too good to not run in my opinion.
Has anyone else tried to address the glass cannon effect?
I have not seen it run into any trouble yet other than Zur beating me to the punch, so at this point its hard to say where the sticking points might be. I have not played this deck a lot, and typically after I win out of nowhere with a deck, I switch decks, because I don't want to be "that" guy, but so far so good.
As far as Flagship and Sphinx, in my build I don't feel like they are good enough to take the damage to draw them. (Ad Nauseam and Dark Confidant)
Edit: Looking closer at Flagship, it seems pretty bad in any deck.
Has anyone else tried to address the glass cannon effect?
Maybe if someone is playing a more artifact-centered deck, they *MIGHT* be good. But, as this is a Doomsday build of Breya, they are pretty terrible in here.
Fair enough, perhaps i'm wrong but when I set at a table and everyone knows what you're on, both can sometiems ride you to victory.
I do see the point of being bad my ad nuas and doomsday, i also play a few more creatures to help.
No one has had the issue of being hated out?
I haven't had many games with the paper deck yet. Online, however, it really depends on what everyone else is playing, especially if they are not sure what kind of deck we are one.
Fair point, ado you see the deck evolving in any praticular direction?
Unless we get better tutors/counters/combo pieces, I don't see the deck evolving too much. Some card changes here and there, yes, but overall the deck and the gameplan will stay relatively the same.
Fair point, ado you see the deck evolving in any praticular direction?
Unless we get better tutors/counters/combo pieces, I don't see the deck evolving too much. Some card changes here and there, yes, but overall the deck and the gameplan will stay relatively the same.
WThomas90-I have to say that I have tested this deck with what I have and proxied the rest and the deck flys like a dream it feels smooth and wins quickly. Its very hard to lose if you keep your eyes on the board and have an answer or two in hand before you go off.
Guerte-As I said to WThomas90 your deck list is amazing Guerte very fast and very powerful. While I found the deck super fun I saw one problem with it and thats my meta its too good. No one in my area can keep up with how powerful this is. I will have to bring a more powered down version of Breya next time as my meta just does not run as high power as this list but I must say great job the list is amazing.
Fair point, ado you see the deck evolving in any praticular direction?
Unless we get better tutors/counters/combo pieces, I don't see the deck evolving too much. Some card changes here and there, yes, but overall the deck and the gameplan will stay relatively the same.
WThomas90-I have to say that I have tested this deck with what I have and proxied the rest and the deck flys like a dream it feels smooth and wins quickly. Its very hard to lose if you keep your eyes on the board and have an answer or two in hand before you go off.
Guerte-As I said to WThomas90 your deck list is amazing Guerte very fast and very powerful. While I found the deck super fun I saw one problem with it and thats my meta its too good. No one in my area can keep up with how powerful this is. I will have to bring a more powered down version of Breya next time as my meta just does not run as high power as this list but I must say great job the list is amazing.
Thank you very much; I really appreciate you saying that! I'm glad it's working out for you. I hope to take it to my LGS soon so I can get some reps in with it; playing online just isn't the same.
I think the write up is officially done! If anyone thinks I am missing any information, please let me know and I will change it accordingly.
Now, let's see if we can get Primer status!
The only thing I would like to see is budget alternatives for the crazy expensive cards. (cards over $100), and maybe you might want to think about playing around non-basic land hate. Blood Moon wrecks us for the most part. Might be something to think about.
I think the write up is officially done! If anyone thinks I am missing any information, please let me know and I will change it accordingly.
Now, let's see if we can get Primer status!
The only thing I would like to see is budget alternatives for the crazy expensive cards. (cards over $100), and maybe you might want to think about playing around non-basic land hate. Blood Moon wrecks us for the most part. Might be something to think about.
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I could probably do a budger alternative section. Is over $100 a good starting point, or should I drop it down to $50+?
The thing about Blood Moon/Back to Basics is we would need to add more basics and less non-basics, so then our mana base becomes worse. So we either have to hope they don't play those cards, or keep an answer up in case they do get played. Or, you know, win before they get the chance to play them.
I think the write up is officially done! If anyone thinks I am missing any information, please let me know and I will change it accordingly.
Now, let's see if we can get Primer status!
The only thing I would like to see is budget alternatives for the crazy expensive cards. (cards over $100), and maybe you might want to think about playing around non-basic land hate. Blood Moon wrecks us for the most part. Might be something to think about.
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I could probably do a budger alternative section. Is over $100 a good starting point, or should I drop it down to $50+?
The thing about Blood Moon/Back to Basics is we would need to add more basics and less non-basics, so then our mana base becomes worse. So we either have to hope they don't play those cards, or keep an answer up in case they do get played. Or, you know, win before they get the chance to play them.
You can keep most of the list intact with $100 budget, but with $50 you lose Bomberman. My list runs a little more bounce and 3 islands, since I dont have Imp Seal. So far I have not run into Blood Moon or Back to Basics.
BomberDragon pile is:
1. Thought Scour
2. Worldgorger Dragon
3. Auriok Salvagers
4. Animate Dead
5. (anything)
if you are worried about Dragon, you could replace the dragon with LED, but you would need more mana to go off.
I am toying with the idea of using Argivian Find in the 5th slot in my deck just as a last ditch fall back if you get stopped.
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
I cut Displacer/Deathmantle combos as I'm wanting this to be a fast combo deck, and those combos were too slow to make them worthwhile.
There are quite a few Doomsday Piles you can go with, here are the main ones:
Thought Scour
Worldgorger Dragon
Auriok Salvagers
Animate Dead
Anything
Thought Scour
Auriok Salvagers
Lion's Eye Diamond
Animate Dead
Anything
Frantic Search
Laboratory Maniac
Thought Scour
Anything
Anything
Thought Scour
Anything
Frantic Search
Laboratory Maniac
Gitaxian Probe
(This one you want to have SDT out already so you can draw with the Top, play scour, bin SDT and random, draw Frantic, play LabMan and Probe)
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
Unfortunately, the only game I have had with this deck since making the switch is the one I described in post #54, and the only reason I won that is because I disrupted his combo.
I don't get to play much in person, so the only real testing I get is on MTGO. It's not the best place to test, but I get a lot more diversity for opponents. And if they decide to sit there as I'm going through the motions of comboing, I'll consider that a win and move on to the next game.
I'm also considering trying out Tainted Pact over either Lim-Dul's Vault or Dark Petition (probably Petition to lower my curve) in order to get a combo piece if I already have one in hand. If I have Pull from Eternity in hand, I can flip past Worldgorger Dragon to grab a reanimation enchantment.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
I originally approached it this way, and tried to build eggs, but I realized Breya was the big egg, all you needed was to power her.
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
Never played Eggs. I feel combo is the most effective/competitive way to build her, so that's what I did. I've been considering building a 2nd Breya deck that is a more casual "goodstuff" deck.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
It does shut off George and Bomberman for the turn, but you can still win via LabMan if you run it. It's too good to not run in my opinion.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
I have modled my Breya of yours, I've tried to address the glass cannon by adding some good stuff creatures such as Skysovereign Consul Flagship & Magister Sphinx.
Has anyone else tried to address the glass cannon effect?
I have not seen it run into any trouble yet other than Zur beating me to the punch, so at this point its hard to say where the sticking points might be. I have not played this deck a lot, and typically after I win out of nowhere with a deck, I switch decks, because I don't want to be "that" guy, but so far so good.
As far as Flagship and Sphinx, in my build I don't feel like they are good enough to take the damage to draw them. (Ad Nauseam and Dark Confidant)
Edit: Looking closer at Flagship, it seems pretty bad in any deck.
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
Maybe if someone is playing a more artifact-centered deck, they *MIGHT* be good. But, as this is a Doomsday build of Breya, they are pretty terrible in here.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
I do see the point of being bad my ad nuas and doomsday, i also play a few more creatures to help.
No one has had the issue of being hated out?
I haven't had many games with the paper deck yet. Online, however, it really depends on what everyone else is playing, especially if they are not sure what kind of deck we are one.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
It's probably going to happen once they know what your deck does, which is why we are trying to combo as fast as we can.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
Unless we get better tutors/counters/combo pieces, I don't see the deck evolving too much. Some card changes here and there, yes, but overall the deck and the gameplan will stay relatively the same.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
WThomas90-I have to say that I have tested this deck with what I have and proxied the rest and the deck flys like a dream it feels smooth and wins quickly. Its very hard to lose if you keep your eyes on the board and have an answer or two in hand before you go off.
Guerte-As I said to WThomas90 your deck list is amazing Guerte very fast and very powerful. While I found the deck super fun I saw one problem with it and thats my meta its too good. No one in my area can keep up with how powerful this is. I will have to bring a more powered down version of Breya next time as my meta just does not run as high power as this list but I must say great job the list is amazing.
Thank you very much; I really appreciate you saying that! I'm glad it's working out for you. I hope to take it to my LGS soon so I can get some reps in with it; playing online just isn't the same.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
Now, let's see if we can get Primer status!
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
The only thing I would like to see is budget alternatives for the crazy expensive cards. (cards over $100), and maybe you might want to think about playing around non-basic land hate. Blood Moon wrecks us for the most part. Might be something to think about.
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort
I could probably do a budger alternative section. Is over $100 a good starting point, or should I drop it down to $50+?
The thing about Blood Moon/Back to Basics is we would need to add more basics and less non-basics, so then our mana base becomes worse. So we either have to hope they don't play those cards, or keep an answer up in case they do get played. Or, you know, win before they get the chance to play them.
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
You can keep most of the list intact with $100 budget, but with $50 you lose Bomberman. My list runs a little more bounce and 3 islands, since I dont have Imp Seal. So far I have not run into Blood Moon or Back to Basics.
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Azusa - Derevi - Glissa - Mizzix - Sharuum - Wanderer - Wort