First off, awesome work on this primer. It's all kinds of dope.
Now, I want your thoughts on a few pieces of tech that I've been running in a different deck that you might find useful. Sword of the Animist It should be ran in almost any deck that doesn't run green... Hell, There's a ton of decks that run green that should still run it. You end up pulling ahead more then you'd think. It's an attack trigger, not a damage trigger and you can slap it on anything. Godsend and Sword of Kaldra Are the other folk at your LGS running evil nasty Gods? Eldrazi titans? Avycn 1.0? No need to worry anymore! These 2 equipments will send all their icons of worship to the land of myths.:link: Really, with the 5 new Gods that were just released, I've seen enough "God decks" at my LGS to make stuff like this needed lately...
Thank you for the compliment and the suggestions!
I don't know why but I initially chose to ignore Sword of the Animist for use in a 3-color deck (not a ton of basics to grab). I run it in my mono-U Mistform Ultimus deck and it puts in work! I'm glad you brought it up though, because it made me think about it a second time, and I think I will try it out. This coincides with finding Tithe really underwhelming the last few times I've had it. I think the sword will be a suitable replacement.
However, I'm not sure what I could/would cut for Godsend or Sword of Kaldra, or if I wouldn't be better served to just include Council's Judgment. I'll have to think on those for a bit longer.
While yes, Council's Judgment is less mana intensive then Godsend or SoK, it's also a "one and done" effect. The two equips get more use for the buck. Not to mention that the table could say that they view YOU as the bigger threat instead of the God/Eldrazi/random creature, and just ends up exiling a mana dork token.
Though, yes, they have to choose to block whatever creature that is equipped. But sometimes they'll have to block the creature just to keep from losing the game. And it's a buff to your creatures...
Just a thought if those things show up in your meta
Hey, great discussions and suggestions so far! I have a tuned up Ruhan deck for duel commander built and I was hoping to find some knowledge on here geared towards duel commander. Any of you have a version of Ruhan for duel?
Hey, great discussions and suggestions so far! I have a tuned up Ruhan deck for duel commander built and I was hoping to find some knowledge on here geared towards duel commander. Any of you have a version of Ruhan for duel?
I don't have a version specific for duel, but I have played with this deck 1v1. As I mentioned in the primer, Ruhan only gets better the fewer opponents there are because he loses the drawback of his randomness, so I think he translates really well to 1v1. If you were going to build him specific for duel, I would recommend taking out some of the biggest creatures and replacing them with more targeted removal, and maybe think about some stax/land destruction effects because it's easy for Ruhan to race opponents due to his low CMC. Also, I would refer to some of the tournament decklists on mtgtop8.com.
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Aside from that, I don't think there's anything notable.
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EDH WURRuhan of the Fomori[Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
EDH WURRuhan of the Fomori[Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Also I really want to try out Sunbird's Invocation but you have a lot more countermagic so it may not be as good for you. Marauding Looter is interesting too for budget decks at least.
Also I really want to try out Sunbird's Invocation but you have a lot more countermagic so it may not be as good for you. Marauding Looter is interesting too for budget decks at least.
Maybe I'm thinking too narrowly in regards to Settle the Wreckage, but I just hate to ramp my opponent. It's like, yeah, I just exiled his army, but now he has the mana for a game ender. In regards to the treasure lands, while they are cute, they're just a tad too durdly for me to warrant their inclusion. Maybe in a more casual meta they would work, and they definitely seem fun, but they just aren't right for this build, in my opinion.
That said, it sounds like you might have a different Ruhan build that you are working on. I'd love to see it! Send it my way!
Key to the City is a card that went completely under my radar during spoiler season, and now that I've been experimenting with it in my Alesha deck I think it absolutely deserves a spot in this build, I just have to figure out what to cut. Good call!
First off, awesome work on this primer. It's all kinds of dope.
Now, I want your thoughts on a few pieces of tech that I've been running in a different deck that you might find useful. Sword of the Animist It should be ran in almost any deck that doesn't run green... Hell, There's a ton of decks that run green that should still run it. You end up pulling ahead more then you'd think. It's an attack trigger, not a damage trigger and you can slap it on anything.
Your assessment was absolutely correct. I replaced Tithe with Sword of the Animist and it is absolutely nuts how much work it puts in.
EDH WURRuhan of the Fomori[Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Hello, great list. I got some cool ideas for my ruhan list. Have you tried using Hall of the Bandit lord? Thinking of adding it to my list, wondering about your thoughts on it. Also wanted to get your thoughts on Venser, the Sojourner. Vensers' plus one can sometimes be relevant here. Blinking snapcaster, stoneforge, and Sad bot. And obviously the unblockable helps get ruhan in for more damage.
Hello, great list. I got some cool ideas for my ruhan list. Have you tried using Hall of the Bandit lord? Thinking of adding it to my list, wondering about your thoughts on it. Also wanted to get your thoughts on Venser, the Sojourner. Vensers' plus one can sometimes be relevant here. Blinking snapcaster, stoneforge, and Sad bot. And obviously the unblockable helps get ruhan in for more damage.
I actually don't like the comes into play tapped clause from Hall; I've had a lot of success with Hanweir Battlements in the last few months though, so I agree that the effect is highly useful!
I think your thoughts on Venser, the Sojourner are really solid. I might have overlooked his utility in the past. Have you been using him to pretty good effect?
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I have. I feel for 5 mana I am going to at least get a solid blink target, whether its stoneforge or snapcaster, and if nether of those are on the battlefield it's a pretty efficient way to push through some damage. I have played a couple of games with it. 5 mana is a little steep, but I feel with the relexabilty it can provide it's worth a slot.
I also run godsend, pretty decent buff and makes blocking ruhan tough. It also helps mistviel plans out. Have you considered adding in final fortune and Angel's Grace? Makes a janky 4 card combo with mistviel plans and sunforger.
EDH WURRuhan of the Fomori[Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
I’m not sure if it’s ever been mentioned in this thread, but I’m building a Ruhan deck right now and I’ve been eyeing putting in a copy Earnest Fellowship. Obviously it’s a your milage may vary kind of card and has a chance of turning off your removal as well as opponent’s removal, but it makes Ruhan unblockable and untargetable by a vast swath of cards. Obviously a no-go if you’re relying on auras, Thassa’s ability or godsend but I feel it’s worth considering since it gives Ruhan protection from three colors and can give all color protection in conjunction with sword of feast and famine.
I’m not sure if it’s ever been mentioned in this thread, but I’m building a Ruhan deck right now and I’ve been eyeing putting in a copy Earnest Fellowship. Obviously it’s a your milage may vary kind of card and has a chance of turning off your removal as well as opponent’s removal, but it makes Ruhan unblockable and untargetable by a vast swath of cards. Obviously a no-go if you’re relying on auras, Thassa’s ability or godsend but I feel it’s worth considering since it gives Ruhan protection from three colors and can give all color protection in conjunction with sword of feast and famine.
Anyone have experience playing with it?
I've had my eye on that card for awhile but have never had the opportunity to play with it. I'd love some feedback on this as well.
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While yes, Council's Judgment is less mana intensive then Godsend or SoK, it's also a "one and done" effect. The two equips get more use for the buck. Not to mention that the table could say that they view YOU as the bigger threat instead of the God/Eldrazi/random creature, and just ends up exiling a mana dork token.
Though, yes, they have to choose to block whatever creature that is equipped. But sometimes they'll have to block the creature just to keep from losing the game. And it's a buff to your creatures...
Just a thought if those things show up in your meta
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I don't have a version specific for duel, but I have played with this deck 1v1. As I mentioned in the primer, Ruhan only gets better the fewer opponents there are because he loses the drawback of his randomness, so I think he translates really well to 1v1. If you were going to build him specific for duel, I would recommend taking out some of the biggest creatures and replacing them with more targeted removal, and maybe think about some stax/land destruction effects because it's easy for Ruhan to race opponents due to his low CMC. Also, I would refer to some of the tournament decklists on mtgtop8.com.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Hour of Revelation is strictly better than Planar Cleansing and will be replacing it in my deck.
Aside from that, I don't think there's anything notable.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
There's really nothing to see here.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Still nothing to add.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Also I really want to try out Sunbird's Invocation but you have a lot more countermagic so it may not be as good for you. Marauding Looter is interesting too for budget decks at least.
[EDH In Development] Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis | Trostani, Selesnya's Voice | Queen Marchesa | Ruhan of the Fomori | Yahenni, Undying Partisan
[EDH Retired] Ertai, The Corrupted | Sigarda, Host of Herons | Tariel, Reckoner of Souls | Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
[Modern] Stuffy Doll Combo Burn | Demigod of Revenge
Maybe I'm thinking too narrowly in regards to Settle the Wreckage, but I just hate to ramp my opponent. It's like, yeah, I just exiled his army, but now he has the mana for a game ender. In regards to the treasure lands, while they are cute, they're just a tad too durdly for me to warrant their inclusion. Maybe in a more casual meta they would work, and they definitely seem fun, but they just aren't right for this build, in my opinion.
That said, it sounds like you might have a different Ruhan build that you are working on. I'd love to see it! Send it my way!
Key to the City is a card that went completely under my radar during spoiler season, and now that I've been experimenting with it in my Alesha deck I think it absolutely deserves a spot in this build, I just have to figure out what to cut. Good call!
Your assessment was absolutely correct. I replaced Tithe with Sword of the Animist and it is absolutely nuts how much work it puts in.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
I actually don't like the comes into play tapped clause from Hall; I've had a lot of success with Hanweir Battlements in the last few months though, so I agree that the effect is highly useful!
I think your thoughts on Venser, the Sojourner are really solid. I might have overlooked his utility in the past. Have you been using him to pretty good effect?
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
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WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
Anyone have experience playing with it?
I've had my eye on that card for awhile but have never had the opportunity to play with it. I'd love some feedback on this as well.
WUR Ruhan of the Fomori [Primer] | WGR Marath, Will of the Wild | WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician | WUB Sharuum, the Hegemon | WBGR Tymna the Weaver / Tana, the Bloodsower | BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots | BUG Sidisi, Brood Tyrant