No greater taste than the tears of a player boasting a "tier one" deck trying to call you try hard. Certainly a case a big fish leaving his small pond.
Love this feeling.
I like to hear when places say that they have competitive commander nights and check it out but I've never been to one that quite lives up to my playgroup. I think I haven't lost a game outside of where I frequent. In a way it's a bummer because I would much rather find a place with challenge than thrash through the night. But in this case I was pleased to thrash right through. The best part was my friend saying "Oh, you're playing your slower deck?"
Brutal
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So my Idyillic Tutor came in the mail today, do you think I should keep testing something like Vampiric Rites or Retreat to Emeria over Titania? I totally agree she's the weakest card atm, but then again she does ramp or get back Strip Mine. I'm thinking cutting Rites to keep up land synergy. Cryptolith Rite has been good enough to keep in for now. I like the idea of cutting e-wit, but if I did I think I'd wanna keep both in just because it's target numero uno for those 1-2 removal spells if a player tries to come back the turn I wipe.
PS can the budget list still happen? I've been researching it a lot and people have a pretty low standard of budget. It'd be fun to try and make this achetype function when every card is <$3
Titania is great in here. Wins the game with Armgeddon, ravages, cataclysm, and works well with all the fetches, knight, and plenty of other cards.
I'm talking about cutting the planeswalker Freylise from the deck, Titania has been super good so far.
Also if you want to write up a budget deck list I'll edit it into the 2nd post.
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Oh right, I got their names backwards. I meant the walker. I'm yet to play her, but I figured she's top tier for Cataclysm or Death Cloud wipes because she can take out mana rocks or the other annoying cheap permanents that come out to help ramp
Well cataclysm kills her as well so not quite there. She's decent after a death cloud but there are far better things happening during that it doesn't matter too much. I do like the artifact kill but aura shards and aura of silence are far better.
However in a stax build one of the most powerful things are walkers since they live through land and creature wipes (hence why I thought enchantress would work well) but the junk walkers aren't quite good enough from what I've seen so far
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Oh right, that's the tapping artifact. I've never had walkers out when I needed to Cataclysm, I guess I was in the mindset the two were similar. I guess I can understand cutting her...I think I was under the impression we had more ways to wipe the board using old cards that destroyed all permanents but walkers because they didn't exist yet. Yeah, I think the walkers are a bit less versatile as they seem..Elsepth's -2 has never really been able to hit everything I need. Her generating 3 tokens is crazy and seems like in the end, her ult would be the anthem I want to try and fit in. She seems worthwhile even in the general scope of planes walkers though. Again I'm yet to actually play the green walker, but I can def say that outside of that window I mentioned (that's only one card now) I don't see her being too important. I think in most circumstances I'd rather see Gilded Lotus. It's weird to say but it's the card I wish came up more for Cataclysm's sake. What's next on your list for testing?
Having the gilded lotus out after a death cloud or cataclysm is the best.
Also I have no plans to cut elspeth. Her ult wins the game and often her.minus is used to kill just a few things but they matter. I really like elspeth here and consider her one of the best walkers in commander. Probably in the top ten, I should really make a YouTube channel.
As far as next test I'm.unsure. if imperial seal did it's job and appear in ema with the fetches it would be a lot easier. I have a list of potential adds on the front page but am unsure what's the best. Im thinking either birds of paradise or deathrite shaman though, possibly another land slot but that's unlikely.
Hey guys so I've actually moved on from commander on to 60 card decks so I don't have any commander decks.
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I'm definitely behind DR Shaman, I almost did a ton of times, I just thought mana dorks were a bad idea for this strat, but given his utility I'd say i could give him up thinking he'd produced enough value. Sitting on him against reanimator is just too good to pass up as well.
Well the life gain helps a lot here. With 9 fetches we can often have him as a mana dork.
My issue is that we want to get to 3-4 mana early which is why I'm running all the 2 cmc rocks and without mana in the yard deathrite isn't as good as we want it. Deathrite scales better with more competitive groups so I can see it in here over birds for now. Besides I really need to get the fetches here now
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I'm going to test him out over Frey. I had a game last night where I drew all 4 cmc + and no ramp til actual t4...it couldve been a matter of shuffling, but it was certainly an issue I was already worried about, I'm still new-ish to competitive without the grease that is blue cantrips. How do you tutor early game? Obv itt's hand dependant, but let's make a general call. Would you prefer to tutor Necropotence or just go for MLD? I think right now the early game is what I have no experience with in stax. One of my issues could be that my MLD clock is just off, when you posted those games you were wiping t3-4, where I dont usually til 5-7. I also think Mindslicer makes a ton sense here, the hand destruction really puts the nail in the coffin for the decks that have the easiest time surviving stacks. The only fear I really have from that idea is something like your reanimator tht can theoretically come back in the same rotation off of Reanimate
Edit: With E-wit gone, I feel like DR is a bit more fitting. I've always kept the mindset to leave every card in yard in case I need it, but now I can more freely exile my own stuff (save lands) if needed, leaving maybe Sun Titan targets. The life gain seems like it's worth the investment every oppurtunity it can be used, even if it means hitting my own creatures. I've only had sun titan out once, and he was busy returning enchantment and lands.
Usually the first thing I tutor is necro. Once I'm ahead mana wise with rocks or have a better board state then it's time to wipe lands.
Mindslicer against reanimator has been ok. I don't like him against the karador deck here but otherwise he has been great. Being able to kill hands and draw off clamp or necro wins games. But against Tasigur killing hands isn't the worst unless.they have mystical or vamp.
But Mindslicer plus knight is often game thanks to bog.
I'll wait to add deathrite after I open my ema box. If I don't get one I'll just buy it and test it out. He's likely to stay awhile unless even with full fetches he ends up underperforming but I don't expect that to happen at all
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I feel like the fear of the downside with Mindslicer against reanimator may be limited to Karador. I got it against your Tasigur who had no response. Spent the game trying to get players to give him functional cards. He couldn't reanimate because his only options were Jin and Void, which wouldve made it worse for the other two. Obv just the first time, but I'd like to think it's not as threatening as I once thought.
I adore mindslicer. He's been super good in nearly all cases except karador and sometimes narset but I've been finding myself tutoring for him early and often after landing a necro, skullclamp, or gitrog.
Being able to reduce players to draw go while you can get the value started from many cards ends the games super often.
Also may be getting an imperial seal for this deck or Tasigur. Hell, maybe both. That would put deathrite back a little bit I'm sure I can find room somewhere.
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Good to hear that it has been working out for you.
I was considering running it in Gitrog because it pretty much seals up the game if frog, loam, or crucible is out, however, like you, I have relatively few outs to actually getting him to die.
However, you have a general that can act as a sacrifice outlet, unlike me..
Is it even worth running without the means to do this?
Good to hear that it has been working out for you.
I was considering running it in Gitrog because it pretty much seals up the game if frog, loam, or crucible is out, however, like you, I have relatively few outs to actually getting him to die.
However, you have a general that can act as a sacrifice outlet, unlike me..
Is it even worth running without the means to do this?
If you add lands like High Market and Phyrexian Tower and enough ways to get them (Seems like you do) then it could be worth a slot.
Hell I've "Wasted" a toxic deluge just to kill him and some tokens before
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If he's anything like Academy Rector he can kind of act as a "send hate some other way" card, which has its benefits. You obv have the sac outlet issue still, but it isn't like you will get 0 value from resolving. Just food for thought.
True however a swords of path makes us sad. I don't like playing either unless I have a sac outlet on board or am certain they don't have any of those.
I also like the ability to time walk a player in 1 v 1. They draw, you sac the Mindslicer and they're done again.
Having Starfield already on board (Or gitrog) is also good benefits
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Oh right. White Removal. I've gotten so rusty from these crazy metas I play in I've forgotten a lot of competitive stuff. It's weird because white's so weak as an overall color I never see it at all, save for when its splashed for multi color spells. That or maybe it's just been a while since anyone has drawn exile. This is more evidence I'm losing my edge being away from my competitive table...it's weird to feel nostalgic for games that end no later than turn six.
when the fetches got announced for khans I sold all of them to get full value. I thought they would be in eternal masters but now I'm on the look out for the rest im missing
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Ahhh, ok. I did the same thing with my mana crypts recently, so besides swapping a few fetches around is that all you'd change for the deck?
Horizon canopy is going in soon as well.
Imperial seal could be coming in if I get one if not deathrite will take freyilse spot.
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What should I swap in Verdant Catacombs and Horizon Canopy for? Should I also toss in a Misty Rainforest or? I'll go ahead and swap Freya for Deathrite and I don't expect to get an Imperial Seal anytime soon.
Love this feeling.
I like to hear when places say that they have competitive commander nights and check it out but I've never been to one that quite lives up to my playgroup. I think I haven't lost a game outside of where I frequent. In a way it's a bummer because I would much rather find a place with challenge than thrash through the night. But in this case I was pleased to thrash right through. The best part was my friend saying "Oh, you're playing your slower deck?"
Brutal
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From the sounds of it, it seemed unoptimized. There's little reason to run sad robot in green decks without sacrifice synergy.
In R/G, there is very little incentive to run it. You're better off with cards like Skyshroud Claim or Frontier Siege instead.
Temple of the False God I hated because it feels so miserable to have in the opener.
Sounds like he also either didn't draw removal for those first games in time or didn't have any.
In any case, it's not like my decks could stand up against this anyway.. except one.. which was inspired by something you built anyway...
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
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Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
PS can the budget list still happen? I've been researching it a lot and people have a pretty low standard of budget. It'd be fun to try and make this achetype function when every card is <$3
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I'm talking about cutting the planeswalker Freylise from the deck, Titania has been super good so far.
Also if you want to write up a budget deck list I'll edit it into the 2nd post.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
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Youtube:
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However in a stax build one of the most powerful things are walkers since they live through land and creature wipes (hence why I thought enchantress would work well) but the junk walkers aren't quite good enough from what I've seen so far
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
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Also I have no plans to cut elspeth. Her ult wins the game and often her.minus is used to kill just a few things but they matter. I really like elspeth here and consider her one of the best walkers in commander. Probably in the top ten, I should really make a YouTube channel.
As far as next test I'm.unsure. if imperial seal did it's job and appear in ema with the fetches it would be a lot easier. I have a list of potential adds on the front page but am unsure what's the best. Im thinking either birds of paradise or deathrite shaman though, possibly another land slot but that's unlikely.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
URXSurf's Up, Mizz Magnus!XRU
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My issue is that we want to get to 3-4 mana early which is why I'm running all the 2 cmc rocks and without mana in the yard deathrite isn't as good as we want it. Deathrite scales better with more competitive groups so I can see it in here over birds for now. Besides I really need to get the fetches here now
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
Edit: With E-wit gone, I feel like DR is a bit more fitting. I've always kept the mindset to leave every card in yard in case I need it, but now I can more freely exile my own stuff (save lands) if needed, leaving maybe Sun Titan targets. The life gain seems like it's worth the investment every oppurtunity it can be used, even if it means hitting my own creatures. I've only had sun titan out once, and he was busy returning enchantment and lands.
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Mindslicer against reanimator has been ok. I don't like him against the karador deck here but otherwise he has been great. Being able to kill hands and draw off clamp or necro wins games. But against Tasigur killing hands isn't the worst unless.they have mystical or vamp.
But Mindslicer plus knight is often game thanks to bog.
I'll wait to add deathrite after I open my ema box. If I don't get one I'll just buy it and test it out. He's likely to stay awhile unless even with full fetches he ends up underperforming but I don't expect that to happen at all
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
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Being able to reduce players to draw go while you can get the value started from many cards ends the games super often.
Also may be getting an imperial seal for this deck or Tasigur. Hell, maybe both. That would put deathrite back a little bit I'm sure I can find room somewhere.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
I was considering running it in Gitrog because it pretty much seals up the game if frog, loam, or crucible is out, however, like you, I have relatively few outs to actually getting him to die.
However, you have a general that can act as a sacrifice outlet, unlike me..
Is it even worth running without the means to do this?
The Unidentified Fantastic Flying Girl.
EDH
Xenagos, the God of Stompy
The Gitrog Monster: Oppressive Value.
Marchesa, Marionette Master - Undying Robots
Yuriko, the Hydra Omnivore
I make dolls as a hobby.
If you add lands like High Market and Phyrexian Tower and enough ways to get them (Seems like you do) then it could be worth a slot.
Hell I've "Wasted" a toxic deluge just to kill him and some tokens before
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
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I also like the ability to time walk a player in 1 v 1. They draw, you sac the Mindslicer and they're done again.
Having Starfield already on board (Or gitrog) is also good benefits
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
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Youtube:
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Horizon canopy is going in soon as well.
Imperial seal could be coming in if I get one if not deathrite will take freyilse spot.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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