Could you imagine this deck without white?
I would like to play a Meren EDH in the same idea than this deck, but with the advantage that you do not need mana to have creature on the board as Meren will bring them from underground. The idea is to go eavily on cards like Neitehr void, Contamination, Braids, cabal minion, Desolation, etc... Maybe is Armaggedon and Cie just mendatory...
I like the idea to see the board loosing its vital substance =P
Could you imagine this deck without white?
I would like to play a Meren EDH in the same idea than this deck, but with the advantage that you do not need mana to have creature on the board as Meren will bring them from underground. The idea is to go eavily on cards like Neitehr void, Contamination, Braids, cabal minion, Desolation, etc... Maybe is Armaggedon and Cie just mendatory...
I like the idea to see the board loosing its vital substance =P
Cheers!
In my build I love white too much
Losing Swords, path, Linvala, geddon, cataclsym, enchantment tutors would make it far less consistant
I think Torpor orb would be better since it lives through humility and all wrath effects we have
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-Gate to Phyrexia- This card sucks in here
-Boseju, who shelters all- Only works well on 4 cards in here and we have enough threats that if we need something to resolve we can easily use another threat as bait
+Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest- Should potentially make a massive army for the kill. Works super well from Cataclysm too, giving me a massive flyer to kill people. It was this or Bitter ordeal and my LGS is sold out of Bitter ordeal currently so I'm giving him a test
+Riftstone portal- Another make all lands tap for color effect like Urborg but this helps more since we often have a good amount of lands in the grave.
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Bitter Ordeal is....one of my favorite cards. But Im glad they were out, that bug seriously ooooozes flavor and seems super viable in the deck. The fact that its 5 and not 4 is what really irks me, but I def think its ability is worthwhile enough. Its just about that cost.
I regret not putting it in the deck so much.
I had a few tests where I bitter ordeal after a land wipe or cataclsym and it's simply game.
Not to mention casting it early after cracking some fetches or sacing tokens to hurt the combo player is super good here.
I just have no idea what to remove for it.
Elspeth, knight-errant is the slowest token maker but makes Ghave into a flying 3 turn clock and her ult is fair here.
Emeria shepherd cost so much mana to cast and there are so few plains in the deck that I debate that she's worth it (Unlike Knight of the reliquary who is insane) but when she works it is a slaughter.
So I have no idea what to remove for Ordeal.
I also want to try world queller because I love the card. I am fully aware that it will likely be cut right after but it's one of my buddies and I have a beautiful foil one that I don't want to trade.
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Got a game today with Mazirek and cataclysm.
One shot both opponents afterwards.
So much value, especially with Ghave in the other games.
Eat your heart out cathars crusade.
Also, still want to remove something for Bitter Ordeal. It needs to go in to kill combo decks.
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Elspeth was the worst token maker in the deck as she can just be killed via combat damage and her other two effects were pretty meh but I'm putting her back on the test list since I may want to try her in the future
Bitter Ordeal kills combo players and can lock out players from ever getting land after a wipe.
Keeping a close eye on Emeria Shepherd to see how often the plains landfall comes around. I may remove her because while she is insane when that ability is relevant a lot of the other time she is uncastable in my hand and doesn't do enough unless it's super late game. But in those cases I should have locked down the board or lost already so I'm not sure about her.
The other thing I want to add is either Elspeth back in or World Queller but I'm sure Shepherd is better than both of them
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Don't think it's quite good enough. I wouldn't be able to lock down all players with it as much as some of the other cards in here. Having the cradle or sanctum out can make it more one sided but I find myself using mana more often for spells or Ghave so I don't have too much spares by the time my turn comes aronud
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Not really a fan. I get some tokens but it's pretty bad without living plane. All the other combos cards are at least good by themselves.
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So I took apart that budget list and built out around Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest until I assemble more pieces for the list. His ability is pretty broken and exploitable in a couple ways. Have you seen him come up any more? Do you think he can provide anything besdies the concept of an alpha strike? Like, have you ever been able to maintain him and Ghave at the same time? I really want to look into him, he's been a ton of fun. There are so many ways to go infinite with him no one is tackling it's kind of crazy. Obviously it can be applied here but I figured I'd mention it..just because I really want to see him stay in there.
I've had a few games where he's on board with ghave and I often win those.
Of course he's mainly here for those one shots after a cataclysm but he's proven useful with ghave as well
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Playing against narset and sharuum. Sharuum tried to combo last turn and was stopped. On my turn I ravages, which gets countered. Good now I can cataclysm and bitter ordeal. I remove sharuums combo and he scoops and remove 24 cards from narset.
Here's the best part....I lost to general damage from narset, she never hit anything relevant....I just couldn't draw lands.
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I came back here and saw the Carpet and was thinking...how long has that been there? This was the first deck I thought of when it was coming up, I think it's too perfect. Playing a GB version of this...I still want to eventually move to this list but your message about copying Mox's Grixis list left a sour note on my tongue...I realized how little I like copying decks too...I feel like your reanimator list gets a pass because the archetype is pretty much the same 90 cards..but this list is too tempting.
It really should be in here. When I heard about it for my reanimator deck I thought there is no reason not to have it in here as well.
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World Queller is a pet card but I have to know if it's good enough here. Maz is decent but not quite what I'm looking for.
Reflecting pool kinda sucks and thinking that Bligted fen would be good against Narset and voltron decks, especially with crop rotation and knight in the deck. Worth a test anyway
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Sad to see Maz go but it makes sense. Let us know how WQ works. Def a card that has given me trouble all throughout the times I've played EDH. Def an unsung toolbox hero. The land is also something I've considered for the exact reason you've mentioned. You'll have to let me know how effective it is with the knight also able to get it out. Crop was enough of a reason for me to add it, but it's just never lined up. I'd imagine here is exactly where it could cause of knight, but Idk how often you get that much mana.
So far World Queller has been solid.
It got laughed at then after a cataclsym leaves him and a living plane I play a creature making enchantment and suddenly people can't have more than one land a turn. Liked that interaction a lot.
So far I haven't gotten fen out as often but getting to that much mana with so many rocks, two enchantments that generate mana, and sanctum/cradle it isn't hard to generate a ton of mana often.
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Currently testing pattern of rebirth over bitter ordeal.
Since this isn't an infinite Ghave deck bitter ordeal is more of a good stuff card over an answer and my enchantments answer the problems a lot better.
However I may keep it in and remove fecundity since its a nonbo with living plane
Pattern gets me sun titan or titantia or rector which means it gets me any enchantment as well.
Also pattern on rector gets me living plane plus doomwake or Linvala for the win
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While starfield is on board you can pretty much search up any creatures in your deck over and over.
You can search getting eternal witness which gets back pattern to get sun titan, get witness and repeat as well.
Of course the rector + pattern combo is best since it's a win but it has a lot of use here
Considering adding a huge creatures to act as a finisher with pattern that would be decent in the deck as well.
The eldrazi come to mind but I'm not so sure since they shuffle the graveyards when they die.
Herald of Lesharc and Iona are interesting, maybe it that betrays for the sac effects.
Probably just trying to be cute with the pattern but it's something to test in the future
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I think Iona. Leshrac just sucks cause they get the lands back when he dies. Of course, it was 6-7 games with the guy in my friend's Aslesha deck before I made that connection and the card dissapeared
What about the Boonweaver combo? I only mention it because you mentioned you wanted this big creature to work close out with a pattern, but what about being able to play a few from the deck? I know it probably isn't what you want, I really think answer is in Iona or Void though.
I don't want to do Boonweaver because then I'm adding the whole combo into the deck and at that point I may as well switch to Karador
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Playing a 4 person game and the guy before me taps out to play collective voyage. I spend 10 mana by saccing eldrazi tokens to help everyone get all the basics from their own decks on the field.
Untap and then vamp tutor for Armageddon.
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I would like to play a Meren EDH in the same idea than this deck, but with the advantage that you do not need mana to have creature on the board as Meren will bring them from underground. The idea is to go eavily on cards like Neitehr void, Contamination, Braids, cabal minion, Desolation, etc... Maybe is Armaggedon and Cie just mendatory...
I like the idea to see the board loosing its vital substance =P
Cheers!
In my build I love white too much
Losing Swords, path, Linvala, geddon, cataclsym, enchantment tutors would make it far less consistant
I think Torpor orb would be better since it lives through humility and all wrath effects we have
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
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Youtube:
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-Gate to Phyrexia- This card sucks in here
-Boseju, who shelters all- Only works well on 4 cards in here and we have enough threats that if we need something to resolve we can easily use another threat as bait
+Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest- Should potentially make a massive army for the kill. Works super well from Cataclysm too, giving me a massive flyer to kill people. It was this or Bitter ordeal and my LGS is sold out of Bitter ordeal currently so I'm giving him a test
+Riftstone portal- Another make all lands tap for color effect like Urborg but this helps more since we often have a good amount of lands in the grave.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/dies_to_doom_blade
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/UpsidedownHandshake
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I had a few tests where I bitter ordeal after a land wipe or cataclsym and it's simply game.
Not to mention casting it early after cracking some fetches or sacing tokens to hurt the combo player is super good here.
I just have no idea what to remove for it.
Elspeth, knight-errant is the slowest token maker but makes Ghave into a flying 3 turn clock and her ult is fair here.
Emeria shepherd cost so much mana to cast and there are so few plains in the deck that I debate that she's worth it (Unlike Knight of the reliquary who is insane) but when she works it is a slaughter.
So I have no idea what to remove for Ordeal.
I also want to try world queller because I love the card. I am fully aware that it will likely be cut right after but it's one of my buddies and I have a beautiful foil one that I don't want to trade.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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One shot both opponents afterwards.
So much value, especially with Ghave in the other games.
Eat your heart out cathars crusade.
Also, still want to remove something for Bitter Ordeal. It needs to go in to kill combo decks.
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Sounds like Maelstrom Wanderer and Jokulhaups...only with less haste but less attacks
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Mono-U Control
Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath
Sen Triplets
Mizzix of the Izmagnus
Derevi Stax
VolThrun
Marchesa, The Black Rose
Olivia Voldaren, Vampire Tribal
Modern: Fish, JUND/Junk
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RIP Twin
+Bitter Ordeal
Elspeth was the worst token maker in the deck as she can just be killed via combat damage and her other two effects were pretty meh but I'm putting her back on the test list since I may want to try her in the future
Bitter Ordeal kills combo players and can lock out players from ever getting land after a wipe.
Keeping a close eye on Emeria Shepherd to see how often the plains landfall comes around. I may remove her because while she is insane when that ability is relevant a lot of the other time she is uncastable in my hand and doesn't do enough unless it's super late game. But in those cases I should have locked down the board or lost already so I'm not sure about her.
The other thing I want to add is either Elspeth back in or World Queller but I'm sure Shepherd is better than both of them
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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Youtube:
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Youtube:
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BWGGhave the psycho shroomBWG
BWGKarador the crippler!BWG
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Of course he's mainly here for those one shots after a cataclysm but he's proven useful with ghave as well
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Playing against narset and sharuum. Sharuum tried to combo last turn and was stopped. On my turn I ravages, which gets countered. Good now I can cataclysm and bitter ordeal. I remove sharuums combo and he scoops and remove 24 cards from narset.
Here's the best part....I lost to general damage from narset, she never hit anything relevant....I just couldn't draw lands.
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- Emeria Shepard
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-Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
-Reflecting pool
+World Queller
+Blighted fen
World Queller is a pet card but I have to know if it's good enough here. Maz is decent but not quite what I'm looking for.
Reflecting pool kinda sucks and thinking that Bligted fen would be good against Narset and voltron decks, especially with crop rotation and knight in the deck. Worth a test anyway
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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It got laughed at then after a cataclsym leaves him and a living plane I play a creature making enchantment and suddenly people can't have more than one land a turn. Liked that interaction a lot.
So far I haven't gotten fen out as often but getting to that much mana with so many rocks, two enchantments that generate mana, and sanctum/cradle it isn't hard to generate a ton of mana often.
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Since this isn't an infinite Ghave deck bitter ordeal is more of a good stuff card over an answer and my enchantments answer the problems a lot better.
However I may keep it in and remove fecundity since its a nonbo with living plane
Pattern gets me sun titan or titantia or rector which means it gets me any enchantment as well.
Also pattern on rector gets me living plane plus doomwake or Linvala for the win
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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While starfield is on board you can pretty much search up any creatures in your deck over and over.
You can search getting eternal witness which gets back pattern to get sun titan, get witness and repeat as well.
Of course the rector + pattern combo is best since it's a win but it has a lot of use here
Considering adding a huge creatures to act as a finisher with pattern that would be decent in the deck as well.
The eldrazi come to mind but I'm not so sure since they shuffle the graveyards when they die.
Herald of Lesharc and Iona are interesting, maybe it that betrays for the sac effects.
Probably just trying to be cute with the pattern but it's something to test in the future
Anyway I've started my own gameplay channel in which I play games (Magic also)
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What about the Boonweaver combo? I only mention it because you mentioned you wanted this big creature to work close out with a pattern, but what about being able to play a few from the deck? I know it probably isn't what you want, I really think answer is in Iona or Void though.
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I don't want to do Boonweaver because then I'm adding the whole combo into the deck and at that point I may as well switch to Karador
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Untap and then vamp tutor for Armageddon.
I love being the bad guy.
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