MTG Salvation

When I saw this card leaked I knew I wanted to make a deck with him at the helm. This deck is amazing in multiplayer in my playgroup. I would like to hear your thoughts on this deck. No infinite combos. So don't tell me to add tutors and things to make the deck more consistent. I like the randomness of the deck with the few things that can make it a tad more consistent. Thanks in advanced guys.



Cards that are in consideration for the deck

Looks like it wants more sac outlets!! Sadistic Hypnotist is my personal favorite. Your curve is already so high..but Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter is a fantastic sac outlet. Guys like Bloodthrone Vampire and Bloodflow Connoisseur aren't spectacular but they get things moving. Oversold Cemetery is awesome in a deck like this. Have you considered Buried Alive, Entomb, and Corpse Connoisseur? Those are offbeat tutors that can get the party started. You probably need to look at lowering your curve a bit.. things like Butcher of Malakir (a card I've played in two different decks and will never play again, too slow), Hythonia the Cruel (also looks very slow, no ETB effect to abuse), Akroma's Memorial, and Decree of Pain are probably all too top-heavy for you. Ob Nixilis looks.. meh.. I'd rather have Aven Mindcensor. Overall, looks like a fun, interesting deck that is mana-starved, but if you're in a slow metagame that can be just fine.

I do like your idea for lowering mana costs. I don't really want to put Sac outlets in that aren't useful (pump sac outlets aren't useful to me). Sadistic hypnotist is a card I previously had in there. I cut it because I didn't like the sorcery speed clause. I think I may add it back in again. I have taken your advice in adding aven mindcensor. Oversold Cemetery has not impressed me. It was in the original build of the deck. I cut it for being underwhelming. I am cutting akroma's memorial and a few other big drops. Now I need to do a gatherer search lol.

I have always thought that if I were to build an Athreos, god of passage deck, I would try to have immortal servitude in it. That is just because I love the card though. If you change things around in your deck enough, maybe it could find a home.

Definitely need Skullclamp in there. I actually just built an Athreos deck the other day, the list is here if you want to take a look and compare.

So I took some of your suggestions guys. I made a lot of changes of the past few weeks.

- A ton of stuff

+ Utter End
+ Spirit Bonds
+ Mother of Runes
+ Vizkopa Guildmage
+ Wingmate Roc
+ Grim Haruspex
+ Aven Mindcensor
+ Gray Merchant of Asphodel
+ Bane of the Living
+ Phyrexian Obliterator

- 3x swamp
- Apprentice Necromancer
- Burnished Heart
- Doomed Necromancer
- Necrotic Sliver
- Revillark
- Adarkar Valkyrie
- Wingmate Roc
- Spirit Bonds
- Decree of Pain

+ Phyrexian Plaguelord
+ Angelic Field Marshal
+ Graveborn Muse
+ Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero
+ Leonin Relic-Warder
+ Children of Korlis
+ Scoured Barrens
+ Orzhov Guildgate
+ Shizo, Death's Storehouse
+ Mastery of the Unseen
+ Crib Swap
+ Wake the Dead

So, this was a large update. I have been tweaking this deck for a while now, and well, I really like it. It is not the most over powered deck, and I would actually say it is really under powered if anything. I tried adding in a skullclamp, but I didn't like it that much. I was never really trying to kill my creatures consistently. That is not how the deck runs. It is more of a midrange synergy deck that works really well together. I want more sac outlets, but I don't want to drop money on cards right now. I know that I would add in those two lands that let you sac a creature to add mana and gain life (not Diamond Valley, I really am not made of money.).

I am trying out a Linn Sivvi thing in this deck. I like the idea of it, and it seems like she won't ever be a bad draw, as the rebels I have in the deck are good on their own. I do wish they would print more, but wishful thinking. I don't know. What do you think?

Made a few more changes

added

• hidden dragonslayer
  
• Anafenza, Kin-tree spirit
  
• Sidisi,undead vivzer

Here is another Athros deck for you to consider it runs in a different direction though. Extort is brilliant with Athros

Typhoid Rats or any 1/1 deathtouch creature is sweet for targeted removal and triggers Athros as well

Thought about using a Teysa, Orzhov Scion? Exiles, tokens, and more Athreos triggers.

redskingm- I feel that extort is a cute way of going about this deck, but I ruled it out when I made the deck. I have ruled it out, as of right now, the only one I would even consider is the pontif of blight. But with that, I need to think of cards to cut for it, and as of right now, I can't really think of anything to cut for other cards that I want to try out. The pontif will be going into the "this card should be tried out" pile if it is already not. Thanks for the suggestion on extort. I also like the idea of a typhoid rats. I have that one card from the commander deck that makes death touch snakes each upkeep if I don't have a snake. I would rather have her than the rat. (can't remember that cards name atm).

JohnnyDegenerate- I have, but I decided not to as if I have no board it takes a lot for me to be able to do anything with her. She is really great in many cases, but I just wouldn't want to have her in here yet, unless I could justify it. I also have a surprisingly low white creature count. I know if black creatures die I get a token, but I really like her for a sac outlet. Right now I would probably choose another three mana sac outlet over her.

Some changes:

- Fleshbag Marauder
- Angelic Field Marshal

+ Helm of Possession
+ Phyrexian Plaguelord

Cabal Coffers?

Works wonders with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth... since there aren't really any tutors you may not get it off all the time but when you do... up to you

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Cabal Coffers?

Works wonders with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth... since there aren't really any tutors you may not get it off all the time but when you do... up to you

I have tried that. If they made a decent creature that tutored up lands (weathered wayfarer has not been impressive enough for me) I would totally put that card back in. That or I would need to increase my swamp count, which I want to keep the plains count high to help emeria. Thank you for the suggestion, i will keep it in mind.

Have you considered finding space for a Crypt Ghast? The extort is icing on the cake for the big mana ramp.

I have. I just have 7 swamps in the deck if you don't count urborg. That is the real think keeping me from putting it in. I mean out of 39 lands only 8 would benefit from the card. One of those makes it so all lands do, but i need to have that one land. It is a consideration. I actually have like a huge stack of cards that could potentially go into the deck. I just have trouble cutting cards from this deck at this point. I think crypt ghast is lower in the order of cards to go in. I mean it is likely that I will have a swamp out, just not enough to say that the card will net me a huge mana ramp. I don't know. I do like that it costs 4 and can be fetched if needed by fleshwrither.

Now you got me thinking.

This list seems pretty well thought out. The only thing I would consider is more ways to use your opponents' stuff and your graveyard.
Like:
Mimic Vat
Grave Betrayal
Geth, Lord of the Vault
Sun Titan

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This list seems pretty well thought out. The only thing I would consider is more ways to use your opponents' stuff and your graveyard.
Like:
Mimic Vat
Grave Betrayal
Geth, Lord of the Vault
Sun Titan

Thank you. This deck has taken a lot of time to get just right.
I was thinking of adding in Chainer, dementia master, mimic vat, and Geth, Lord of the Vault. Actually, now that I think about it more, I really like the idea of Geth and chainer a lot.

What do you think would be potential cuts?

Some small updates. Sorry for not updating this sooner.

- Grim Haruspex
- Soul of innestrad
- Mother of Runes
- Phyrexian Arena
- Swamp
- Orzhov Guildgate

+ Liliana, Heretical Healer
+ Geth, Lord of the Vault
+ Archangel of Tithes
+ Mortuary Mire
+ Shambling Vent

I'm a huge fan of Debtors' Knell. Late game, it offers some pretty great value. I'm also irrationally fond of Debt to the Deathless. Not saying it fits in this deck, but I like it as a late game finisher. Same with Necromancer's Covenant.

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I'm a huge fan of Debtors' Knell. Late game, it offers some pretty great value. I'm also irrationally fond of Debt to the Deathless. Not saying it fits in this deck, but I like it as a late game finisher. Same with Necromancer's Covenant.

Well, I already do run Debtors' Knell. The other cards don't really fit the theme, but would fit the theme if this was more of an extort deck.

Oh, I just missed that. Cool.

So I really want to get a Ruinous Path, as it is removal plus a potential creature, especially with the addition of shambling vent.

Well I have made some additions to the deck. I forget the cuts.

+ High Market
+ Phyrexian Tower
+ Orzhov Guildgate
+ Sifter of Skulls
+ Soul Warden
+ Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
+ Kami of False Hope
+ Fleshbag Marauder
+ Zulaport Cutthroat
+ Emeria Shepherd
+ Yosei, the Morning Star
+ Soul’s Attendant
+ Eight-and-a-Halt-Tails

There are two Sifter of Skulls on your list.